Rio 2016 Day 2 Review

Another golden day for Australia (and silver for Canada of course) is talked about as we work out what the hell is happening in Judo and why the crowds decided to boo it, we discover a new super hero horse that will help save the day, learn how to use Google to see the ages of gymnasts as well as keep up the search for Richie Porte and start a new Olympic bid for Canada for 2028.

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

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BEN WATERWORTH: Good afternoon, good evening, and good night once again from Off The Podium, an Olympics podcast coming to you live and direct from the beautiful future Olympic city of Hobart. Yes, we're still holding our hope that the 2020 bid will be successful, even though they've already been awarded to Tokyo. But we are here for episode four of Off The Podium, our day two recap of the 2016 Rio Olympics, the games of the 31st Olympiad. And as of right now, to me, still in the top 31 best Olympics we've ever seen. That joke will not get old, even though I used it only two days ago. My name is Ben, and look, we're even getting our co-hosts to laugh at it. We're paying them to do that. My name is Ben, the future Mr. Brit Elmsley, still hoping for that to happen. And I am so excited to be able to talk to you from another day with one another, gold medal and bronze medals. And speaking of being excited for bronze and gold, it's a man who nearly did make the team for the synchronized diving and could have won a bronze medal but got kicked out because he wasn't a girl. It's Jarrod Loobeek from Emu Plains. Jarrod, welcome back to Off The Podium.

JARROD LOOBEEK: It's good to be back. I'm a little bit annoyed that these Olympics are kind of screwing up and clashing with work. I, for one, think it should be a two-week national holiday, but let's hope we win some more gold so that that can get passed through Parliament.

BEN WATERWORTH: I think given our current success rate, Jared, it is a good chance that that might make it through Parliament, all right? So we will keep an eye on that. And speaking of making it through Parliament, their current success rate right now, they don't know what to do with themselves, because not only did they start off the Olympics with a bronze medal, they've added that and won a silver medal. So you know what that means on day three. They're going to get a gold medal if the current trend continues, direct from Canada, from the beautiful city of Winnipeg, which I also believe might bid for the Olympics in the future one day, probably more of a chance at Hobart. It's Colin Hilding. Colin, welcome back to Off The Podium, and happy silver for Canada.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, we're moving up, and at this rate, if we do win a gold, it's going to have to be Penny Alexiak, because she seems to be our only Olympian that can succeed. To address whether or not Winnipeg can get the Olympics, we held the Pan Am Games twice, so I guess we're already equipped for the Summer Olympics, more than most cities.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I believe that we have the Australian Masters Games in Tasmania next year, so got to start somewhere.

COLIN HILDING: We have the Little League World Finals in Hobart.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, they're coming up. They're coming up very, very well. Day two, though, we're recording this at the start of day three, but we're just excited to be able to talk about day two. Lots happening all around Rio, and also here in Hobart and Winnipeg and Emu Plains. But we start off, of course, just recapping a little bit for our nations that we are in, Australia and Canada. For Australia, it was, as I just mentioned, another golden day for us. Catherine Skinner winning the women's trap shooting, becoming our first women's trap shooter to win a gold medal since the legendary Suzanne Ballot won back in Athens. So it's been a long time coming for Australia. And what made it even more perfect is we beat a New Zealander, Natalie Rooney. It was fantastic. So, you know, it would have been a very different start to the show had we won a silver in that and lost to a kiwi. But we also managed to get two bronze medals also on day two. Madison Keeney and Annabel Smith in the women's three-metre synchro springboard. Great performance there diving, knocking off Canada. I thought you guys were meant to be good at that, Colin. And added to our swimming tally. Unfortunately for the men, we couldn't quite go as gold as the women. But for James Roberts, Cam McAvoy, James Magnuson and Kyle Chalmers, and Matthew Abboud, of course, swam in the heats. We got bronze in the 4x100 metres. Jared, another decent day for Australia. You must have been happy with a couple more medals to add to the tally. We've dropped a third on the medal tally, but who cares? We're still up there.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I mean, top three, that's where you want to be. I'm a bit annoyed that we don't have any silver yet. That zero there, it's frustrating me. So hopefully we can... I don't even know if I want another gold. I just want a silver at this moment in time. So maybe somebody who's winning could purposely lose at the last second just to get us that elusive silver. I'd be happy with that.

BEN WATERWORTH: The rugby sevens, the Pearls, as we've discovered their nickname are, they can choke after we beat Canada in the semis. We'll get to that, no doubt. But yeah, I was up watching the shooting. I don't know if you were up, Jared. It was about 4.30 in the morning that we were watching Katherine shoot for gold. Were you up? Were you awake watching that one?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I was not.

BEN WATERWORTH: Ah, right.

JARROD LOOBEEK: I mean, that's disappointing.

BEN WATERWORTH: King shooting fan.

COLIN HILDING: It was kind of shooting after all. I prefer to sleep.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, yes. Well, as we mentioned, of course, your silver there, Colin. You've already sort of touched on it now. How's her name pronounced? Penny Olkciak, is it?

COLIN HILDING: Alexiak.

BEN WATERWORTH: Alexiak, that was my second guess. In the women's 100-metre butterfly, you lost to a Swedish swimmer, a beaten American swimmer. And that's her second medal of the games, I believe. She was part of your bronze medal-winning 4x100 freestyle team. So if my calculations are correct, she's $30,000 richer by the Canadian Olympic Committee.

COLIN HILDING: She is. She came in in the right year. I guess it's also the first time she was eligible to come in. She's only 16. The thing that makes us most impressive is that Canadian swimmers, we might get lucky with maybe one or two medals per Olympics, but as far as female swimmers go, I think she's the first one to win. Well, as far as the relay goes, that was the first time that female swimmers had won in the Olympics for Canada in 20 years, and at the same time, the first individual medal in 20 years. So this is pretty much groundbreaking. The fact that we have a swimmer that's won multiple medals, that's not something that we see all the time. She still has more events to go, so keep going Penny Oxelium, or whatever you called her. Penny O. Is that how your Australian commentators are? And Penny O'Loughamun is winning silver here today.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, Penny O. That Canadian chick. But it's not just Canadian swimmers with multiple medals. This is Canadian summer athletes with multiple medals. Colin, what's going on here?

COLIN HILDING: I have no idea. We need more 16 year olds out there. This is the issue we've had this whole time. They keep trying to put mature adults out there, and we need some people who are still in high school.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, it's a good point actually. 16 years old. So she was basically born the year of the Sydney Olympics, which makes me incredibly feeling old. And you're older than me, Colin, so I can't imagine what it makes you feel. But it's fascinating. I mean, was she talked much about before these games, you know, when you had the big preview episode, and oh, we're going to win one bronze medal at these Olympics. Was she talked about it finishing like in the semi-finals or something, or did she just literally come out of nowhere?

COLIN HILDING: I don't think I want to say it's out of nowhere. I already mentioned in another episode that there really wasn't a lot of hype for the swimming, and I think it was maybe everybody was being a little bit modest. You know, we didn't want to get our hopes up, but all of the hype that we did here was behind her. At the same time, I don't think anybody was expecting her to medal. They're like, oh, she's the future of our sport here. She's the fastest one we have. I don't remember any predictions of medals as far as it goes in swimming. The only prediction we really had for medaling and swimming is for one of our male swimmers, Ryan Cochran, and that's more because it's his last Olympics.

BEN WATERWORTH: I was going to say, I've heard of him before. Now, he's medaled in Olympics before, hasn't he? Or at least done decently?

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, in the 1500s, so he's still to come.

BEN WATERWORTH: Of course, 1500, that's what Australia likes to call our event. At least Channel 7 does. We haven't won it since 2008, which I guess is only right. 2004, Grand Hacker got silver, didn't he, in Beijing? Why am I talking about Jared? Come on, I should know this. But we should mention in that event, the Women's 100 Butterfly Gold went to Sweden. The Swedes won their first gold of the Olympics. I didn't know Sweden was good at swimming, but Sarah Sjostrom, yep, she won it.

COLIN HILDING: Sjostrom. Sjostrom.

BEN WATERWORTH: I've got Swedish heritage, and I can't even pronounce their names. She won the gold, and Dana Vollmer from the USA won it. I mean, it must be pretty decent. You beat an American swimmer there, Colin. So that's good, and you got that at least.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, and my family, the Hilding family is from Sweden, so I was kind of proud to see them win too. And watching throughout the heats and the semis and everything, I think Sjostrom was so far ahead of everybody else, it was obvious she was going to win too.

BEN WATERWORTH: Clearly Sweden. That was the race of the Winter Olympic Nations, Sweden versus Canada. You know, hey, let's do something decent in swimming. We had an Aussie in that event, Jared Emma McKeon. She finished seventh, and I don't know if you saw the footage, but she was quite devastated out of the pool. She was basically in tears, and I think she was actually crying because she got beaten by a Canadian. I'm not sure, Jared.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I can't imagine dealing with that. That would be disappointing. I mean, she's probably booked into some therapy sessions as we speak, but I mean, seventh isn't bad. That's not last in the final, so you save a little bit of face.

BEN WATERWORTH: If I made an Olympic final and got seventh, I would take that as a win. Like, come on. You made an Olympic final. That's a bonus, surely.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Exactly.

BEN WATERWORTH: Colin, you nearly made the sole Olympics, sort of, so I mean, you would have taken that. Just thought I would remind people who haven't listened to episode one of Off The Podium. But yes, just I guess for our medals going back to it, I mean, it was kind of a shock, Jared, for Katherine Skinner, because it wasn't really talked up too much. We had another shooter in that, Letitia Scanlon, who I think was talked up more. We'll get to her results in a moment. But, you know, Channel 7 likes to focus on everything else that isn't swimming, well, that is swimming, and then, you know, replay everything over and over again. But this sort of came out of nowhere. And again, I just want to point this out. We beat a New Zealander. Like, New Zealand have won a medal at the Olympics. They're holding national celebrations right now, even though they lost in a shootout, quite literally. But I mean, this is just a bit of pride there for us. I mean, we talked about this in episode one, Australia versus New Zealand. What a way to stick it out the Kiwis by winning our third gold and beating a New Zealander.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Exactly. I mean, we beat them in the hockey. Arguably, they maybe should have tied that up, but we beat them there, and now we've beat them in the shooting. So bring it on. What's next?

BEN WATERWORTH: I have no idea New Zealanders knew how to shoot.

JARROD LOOBEEK: I'm not worried.

BEN WATERWORTH: I didn't even know. Oh, Brew, what's that a gun? What do you do with it? Oh, you pull the trugger. But apparently they can. The diving, again, that was also a bit of a shock. We're pretty good at winning bronze medals in the diving, though.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, we do have a track record.

COLIN HILDING: No, go ahead, Jared.

BEN WATERWORTH: Colin's incensed.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I'm getting ready for this one.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, he's... I don't even know what's happening now. He's so angry that it's just silenced.

COLIN HILDING: Okay, I'll go on this one. I think I mentioned the day before, this is something that we were pretty much considered a lock for, for a medal this time. In retrospect now, looking back, I mean, one of our divers, Jennifer Abel, she had medaled in this before. The other one was new to the team, so maybe we shouldn't have been so confident we were going in, but I don't know if either of you watched this event. It was actually quite funny seeing the Australians because going into the final round of dives, I said to my wife, I said, I think at this point we might be able to get the silver. I don't think there's any chance of Australia catching us for the bronze. And then Australia had pretty much a perfect dive, and I'm like, all right, well, I think we can still hold them off here. And it looked like Canada had a perfect dive on this one. So much so that when they cut to the Australians, at least on our feed here, they cut to the Australians right after Canada dived, you could see them kind of awkwardly smiling, and the look on their face basically said, well, at least we got a free trip out of this. It was nice to come. And when they showed the scores, you cut back to Australia, and they still look disappointed. And the coaches are grabbing them by the heads, basically. They're like, hey, you won! And they still look like, oh, we gave it our best shot. They had no clue that they won in this one. It was actually kind of a fun moment, even though we lost in this. It was kind of fun to see Australia so surprised that they actually won in that one.

BEN WATERWORTH: What I'm particularly loving, I think, so far at these Olympics is the fact that somehow, Australia and Canada are building up a little bit of a rivalry in a lot of sports here. You knocked us off in the soccer. We've knocked you off in the diving. We've got the rugby to come later on today. Is this maybe creating something because of this podcast that we're literally just creating this great new rivalry of Australia versus Canada?

COLIN HILDING: I was going to say it all starts with us. That's pretty much what sets the bar for the Olympics. We need to be careful what we say and do on this podcast because it could have ramifications that go all throughout Rio.

BEN WATERWORTH: Jared, are you eagerly anticipating the Tokyo 2020 showdown between Australia and Canada in all these sports, particularly sport climbing? I'm very much looking forward to that rivalry.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think that will be a good one. We're obviously the metal favourites for that already. And if the Canadian wins, we'll just claim them anyway. I'm sure we'll find some way to say that they have Australian heritage.

BEN WATERWORTH: I'm looking at this actually, Colordell, that you're talking about this. Canada did finish fourth in this, and we beat you by less than a point. So this is quite incredible, actually, to realise how this is coming about. So Canada are a bit incensed right now, because they're so thrilled with the silver, but maybe they're about to launch something against Australia. You took our bronze in the diving air, you bastard! Bar-bastards! I don't even know how you speak, but whatever.

COLIN HILDING: Well, I don't want to steal your thunder here, but obviously the Chinese were going to win this no matter what. It was their event. The Chinese have actually set the goal that they want to sweep all eight medals in diving, which I'm actually curious to see if it will happen here. But Italy was another one that I really was watching this event, and I was shocked at how well they performed. And again, the thing I mentioned in a past episode of Loveable The Olympics is sometimes you can just get behind the story of a person, and these two divers, one it was her third Olympics, the other one it was her fifth Olympics, and they had never medaled before. They're always held out, like last time, held out in fourth place just behind Canada, and this time they come away with the silver. I mean, when you're competing against China, the silver pretty much is the bronze, I guess.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I believe if I heard it correctly, this is their fourth consecutive time they've won this event China, which, you know, I mean, if they're coming into this wanting to sweep the entire field, I mean, I think they're going to do it, because it's China, they win everything. So, but I have to laugh. The fact that Italy win a medal in diving. Now, fans of soccer will remember, particularly in Australia, the 2006 World Cup, when it was nil all, Jared knows where I'm going with this, nil all in the round of 16 against Italy, Australia, were doing so well against the future world champions, and the Italian player, I don't know who it was, I don't give a shit, he dives with about three seconds to go on the clock, gets a penalty, knocks us out. So Italy and diving go hand in hand, and I think it's just dessert, so they win a medal in the Olympics. So this is reward, Jared. It's only taken them ten years to finally get a medal for their diving exploits.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it's kind of surprising that more soccer players don't go into diving once their soccer career is over. You'd think that that would be the natural progression. Yes.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, congratulations to Italy on their medal. We'll go over the medal winners in total very, very shortly in the medal tally, but I just want to touch on also our 4 by 100 metre bronze medal just for us there, Jared. I mean, I don't think we really had a snowball chance in hell of winning gold in this one. It was between the French and the US. Obviously, a certain American won his 19th gold medal. We'll get to that, of course, later. But I mean, James Magnusson's in the team. We're not going to win gold. So I guess, I mean, a bronze is OK. We'll take it. We're happy with that.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think that's what we, I suppose, were aiming at on the way. And that was kind of the goal to just medal no matter what colour. And we knew that it probably wasn't likely going to be gold. I mean, we may have been able to snag silver and get rid of that goose's egg that's frustrating me to no end. But yeah, it was a solid race. I can't remember who swam the last leg for Australia, but that was a great final leg because we were not, we weren't in the top three at that stage, and it was a great comeback.

BEN WATERWORTH: It was. We'll take it. But Colin, we'll get to some Canadian results in a second, of course, outside of the medals, but I've just got a few here that will go over for Australia because obviously outside of our medal results, so it was a decent day for Australia. Obviously in the shooting outside of Catherine Skinner winning the gold, as I mentioned, Letitia Scanlon. She also made the final. She made the top six, and I believe that's the first time we've ever had two women in the top six of that event, so good job there for us. Rowing, completely cancelled. Can't give you any results of that one. Colin, what did you watch all day? What did Canada concentrate on?

COLIN HILDING: I woke up ready to watch the rowing and saw the commentators there reporting on the wave conditions. And sadly, they didn't have anything else to show after a while of just waiting. So we ended up watching just random teams. I think there was basketball or volleyball or something like that. I think it was volleyball like France against somebody. I don't even remember. And I ended up changing the channel away. So yeah, I ruined our entire schedule here.

BEN WATERWORTH: Did you have footage of a past Olympian watching the rowing getting cancelled?

COLIN HILDING: That would have been fantastic if we did though. That should become just a trend here in Summer Olympics.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, that's our candidate. I think, Jared, that's what we need to do during the Winter Olympics is have just shots of Stephen Bradbury watching our Winter Olympians not make it past the first round.

JARROD LOOBEEK: That would be good to watch. I'd watch that.

BEN WATERWORTH: Come on, Channel 7. That's how you can improve your coverage. Rugby Sevens. Now, I've discovered we talked about nicknames on yesterday's show. The women's rugby sevens team are called the Pearls. Of course they are, Jared. We're known for Pearls in Australia, aren't we?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Definitely. That's our number one export.

BEN WATERWORTH: Of course. We had two games, a 12-all tie with the USA. That was a brutal match. I don't know if you watched any of that, Jared. One of our players got gang tackled within five seconds. It was basically knocked out by an American straight away. And America really put it up to us. We walked away with a tie in the quarterfinal. We thrashed Spain 24-0. And we're playing a certain Canadian team in the semifinals. Jared, I mean, this is kind of one of these events that we're expected to win gold in. We're the favourites. We're the world champions. This is a lock, pretty much. But, you know, are you feeling confident that we can... Because if we lose to Canada in this, I can't imagine what tomorrow's show is going to be like with Colin.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think tomorrow's show will be cancelled if we lose to Canada for technical reasons. I think we've got a good shot. I suppose I'm a little bit less confident after that tie with the US. From what I was watching beforehand, we were pretty much thrashing everybody, and that, I suppose, knocked us down a peg, but maybe that's what they needed, a draw to kind of weight themselves up and get firing all cylinders again.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, we hadn't had a single point conceded against us, all tournament till America, and we tied that up with like five seconds on the clock to go, Colin, did Canada know what rugby was before this Olympics?

COLIN HILDING: Well, if you've listened to our other podcast, I think you know the answer to that.

BEN WATERWORTH: I don't listen to other ones, I just record it and just go on with my life.

COLIN HILDING: No, I don't, I'm not that familiar with it, but considering the amount of coverage there is on TV this time around, I think at least two or three of the TSN channels are covering it all the time, it must have become really big, and I just didn't know it.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, whoever wins the match will play either New Zealand or Great Britain, so we're up against the rival once we beat Canada. But you're in with a shot for a bronze? Like, how about, let's pre-plan this. We'll beat you guys, and we'll go on to beat Britain in the, that's enough stuff, New Zealand, we've got to beat New Zealand, always got to beat New Zealand, and you can knock off the mother country of Great Britain and win a bronze. A famous bronze for Canada and Rugby Sevens, Cole. There you go.

COLIN HILDING: Team of Dutchie heroes. Yeah, I don't know if we're going to get a chance to get to the, well, we're going to get to it because I'm going to get to it. But let's not get too confident. I mean, because I think the greatest moment of, at least for me, of the Olympics yesterday was Canada's men's volleyball, who haven't made the Olympics in a couple of decades, actually beating the Americans in their first game. And we pretty much obliterated them in their first game. It was the most exciting thing I've watched all Olympics so far. And I think I just got really into volleyball last year, so I'm kind of fresh to the sport. But yeah, anytime we go up against a powerhouse, we upset them. We have a 100% success rate so far in this Olympics of surprising and when we're the underdogs.

BEN WATERWORTH: And I'm also looking here, sorry to steal your thunder, if you're going to mention this in Canada's results, but I see that your beach volleyball has knocked off the Italians as well in the women's tournament. I'm just looking at you. And you also beat the Dutch, both your women's beach. I didn't realise Canada had beaches. So there you go.

COLIN HILDING: I'm going to the beach as soon as we're done this, so maybe I'll see some future Olympians practicing there.

BEN WATERWORTH: Is that like Australian snow, like in air quotes?

COLIN HILDING: To travel a couple hundred kilometres to reach a beach and it's actually across the American border, so I don't think it counts.

BEN WATERWORTH: Hey, hey, I know what it is. You and I, in Minneapolis, we flew over America together in a virtual reality simulator. This is like a beach virtual. It's like Beach Canada. Experience the beach.

COLIN HILDING: Fly over the beach.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, that's exactly it. Okay, quickly, Equestrian. Jared, this is your baby. We're in third at the moment in the eventing, and Chris Burton, currently in the silver medal position in the individual dressage. How's that going, Jared?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I mean, well, that's what we want. I'm counting on him for that silver medal. I'm a bit annoyed that the team dropped down to third because that would have been two chances for a silver. But I know the Equestrian's going well, and the crowd turned out it's improved. They even had to put on these little party hats on the horses so they didn't get distracted. So that just gets better and better each day. I don't know what the next step is, but after the party hat, you've got to improve on that somehow. I mean, the horse couldn't look any stupider if they wanted to make it look stupider. But there'll be something else. I don't know, maybe they increased the height of the party hat.

BEN WATERWORTH: Maybe.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Or one hat on top of the other hat. I don't know. I want to see somebody ride two horses at the same time.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, you discovered Batman horse, Bruce Wayne horse.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yes.

BEN WATERWORTH: I love the fact that...

JARROD LOOBEEK: Nobody knows its real identity.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes.

JARROD LOOBEEK: That little Batman hat is hiding. You can't tell. I mean, you tell horses by their ears. That's the distinctive feature, and now nobody knows.

BEN WATERWORTH: Giant horse symbol above Rio. Come and save us, horse Batman. But yes, the French and the Germans are ahead of us. So, you know, I mean, I can take losing to the Germans, but not the French. Come on. Basketball, the Opels beat Turkey 61 to 56. Tennis, we'll touch on a couple of big results in the tennis, but for Australia, obviously Sam Stozer beat Yelena. Osterpenko of Latvia, the great rivalry between those two. She's through to the next round. Sam Gross, sadly, is out. Lost to Belgium's David Goffin. And of course, Daria Gavrilova lost to Serena Williams. She put up a bit of a fight, though, there, Jared. So it was an entertaining match.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it was decent. I think they showed a couple of the replays of the rallies and stuff, and by no means was she thrashed. So, I mean, when you're playing against the world number one, to hold your own, it was impressive to watch.

BEN WATERWORTH: Very much so. Hockey, big upset for the Kookaburras, the world number one team. We always choke in the Olympics. We lost to Spain, one-nil. Plenty of time to catch up, but big result there. Outside the swimming medals, as I mentioned, Emma McCowan finished seventh in the 100 butterfly. Tamsen, Cook and Jessica Ashwood sixth and seventh in the 400 freestyle. And we've got Mitch Larkin qualified in the men's 100-metre backstroke with Maddie Wilson and Emily Seabom in the final of the women's 100 backstroke as well. Gymnastics, our only competitor Larissa Miller sadly did not make the finals. She finished thirtieth overall. The canoes slalom, Ian Burrows through to the semifinal, but Lucian Delfor is out. Table tennis, this one's hard to take, Jared. Jianfang Lei eliminated in the singles, losing to Meng Yu Yu from Singapore. Are you still recovering over that result?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, that was a bit of a shock to me. I thought we had that. I mean, we're such a big powerhouse when it comes to table tennis. No, I think that was our best ever result. So I'm building. Look out, Tokyo 2020.

BEN WATERWORTH: Exactly. Cycling Amanda Spratt, 15th in the Women's Road Race, and Judo. I want to talk about Judo in this episode. Nathan Katz lost to Morocco's Imad Pesou in the first round of the 66kg division. So there you go. What happened for Canada, Colin? I know you mentioned the volleyball, but anything else exciting happening?

COLIN HILDING: Well, I want to mention volleyball again, and I'll mention it probably a third time. It was so exciting. And this is where I said that the Canadian broadcasters sometimes don't know what to cover. I think obviously any country is going to try to cover what is maybe closer to a lock as far as the performance goes in medals. And the fact that Canada had made volleyball in the Olympics in 20 years or something like that and were here against US in the opening game, there was really no hope. The American network, NBC, was covering that game start to finish, so it wasn't even on a Canadian network. I was watching the American one, and I was recording the Canadian one, and only after the game was over, where Canada won, did I go back and see that probably about halfway through, they realised we were about to win something big, and CBC switched over to volleyball. So maybe we'll actually get more volleyball coverage in the future now. There was a pretty big win. You mentioned gymnastics. Our team, the team gymnastics for the women's, we missed out. We came in ninth. And it was, again, another thing where it was like this close to being a lock, and they're saying, oh Canada, they were even saying going into like the final round, or Canada will have no problem making the finals. And our last Olympian was the most experienced one on there, slipped on the uneven bar. It was a pretty brutal fall. And we just missed out. So that was a bit disappointing. What else is going on? Obviously, Penny Alexiak in the pool, two medals. Sadly, we mentioned her yesterday. She was our profiled athlete of the day, Emily Overholt. Came in 25th in the women's 400-metre freestyle. That was her second and last event. But as an update, my three-month-old son who could not stop watching the TV when she was swimming the other night and started crying when she was losing, yesterday we popped him in front of the TV when we're getting lunch ready. And Emily Overholt's on being interviewed, and for whatever reason, he smiles at the TV, which he's never done before. He has only ever smiled at a person looking at him smiling back. Emily Overholt was looking very serious on the TV. And I thought again, well, it's just a fluke. And about 30 seconds later, I look back, and he smiles again at the TV and starts giggling. He has not even really giggled in person to us yet. So there's something about Emily Overholt that is strangely fascinated, my three-month-old son. I look forward to Tokyo to see how much he's going to be cheering for her. That's his favourite athlete. And sadly, she did go down.

BEN WATERWORTH: Damn it. Well, we got to, she liked your tweet, though. We got to, we got to...

COLIN HILDING: She did.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes. That's a win for us.

COLIN HILDING: We are officially endorsed by Emily Overholt. We are Olympian endorsed.

BEN WATERWORTH: Olympian endorsed. See, this is what happens. You know, when Brit Elmsley tweets me back, then it's the wedding. We'll lock it in. So it's good. You know, this is what it takes. A couple of tweets here and there. So, you know, that's how it goes. And yeah, great. Okay.

COLIN HILDING: There's power in having a baby that you can use to manipulate, to get famous people to like your tweets.

BEN WATERWORTH: Okay. Well, I'll get Brit Elmsley pregnant. And then... That's how it works. Okay. Thank you. I'm just going to write these notes down. Outside, had you finished with Canada there, Colin? Sorry. I didn't know if there was still more or...

COLIN HILDING: This is the Summer Olympics. You think I have more than three things to mention?

BEN WATERWORTH: Notice how our segment is a bit longer than yours.

COLIN HILDING: The diving. Diving was the sad one. But every time we disappoint in something that we think is a sure thing, we surprise in something like volleyball. And you mentioned the beach volleyball, our female team, Pavan and Bansley, I think it is. Yeah, they had a big win there. So big hopes for volleyball, both beach and non-beach.

BEN WATERWORTH: Non-beach.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yes.

BEN WATERWORTH: Welcome to non-beach volleyball.

COLIN HILDING: What do they call volleyball when it's non-beach?

BEN WATERWORTH: Is it just volleyball?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I don't know. Volleyball.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes. Just wait two years time when we're in Korea for the Winter Olympics, our segment will be a lot shorter than yours. So the roles will be reversed in two years time. But the gold medals decided yesterday, well, technical day two, whatever. So just quickly going over these, archery, the women's team, South Korea took that one out. I believe they've never lost in that event in the history of the Olympics. The women's road race in cycling went to the Dutch, the Netherlands, Anna van der Breggen took that one out. Did you stay up watching all eight hours of that one, Jared?

JARROD LOOBEEK: After the big segment of Where's Richie, I couldn't really take another athlete going missing, so I decided to give that one a pass.

BEN WATERWORTH: There's actually footage, I don't know her name, but there was, I believe, another Dutch rider went completely A over T and smashed into the gutter. And I think she's broken about three vertebrae in her back. Poor thing, but the crash in slow motion looks amazing. Diving, we mentioned China took out the women's synchronized three-metre, I'm not going to say their names because I'll butcher it. Fencing, the men's foil went to Daniel Garozzo of Italy, and they also won a gold in the judo, the Italians had a good day. Fabio Basile won the men's 66 kilogram. I believe though, Colin, I'm surprised, I know you're into judo, you lost the bronze medal match to Japan. Antoine Bouchard, I don't know if you have any relation to Eugenie, he lost to Mashashi Ebunuma of Japan for bronze. So obviously, morning, another fourth place finished there for Canada.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, and I think I watched judo for the first time yesterday when I woke up, that's what was on. And it was probably an earlier match, not the bronze one, but the crowd started booing them for some reason. I'm not quite sure why.

BEN WATERWORTH: They don't know what's going on here. They've just been given tickets. Here you go guys, go to the Olympics, watch judo.

COLIN HILDING: Boo! Nothing's happening!

BEN WATERWORTH: Where's Giselle? I don't know what's happening. Yeah, I want to talk about judo. Also, speaking of judo, Kosovo, not only did they win their first ever Olympic medal, they won their first Olympic gold medal. Mayinda Kalmendi won the women's 52-g.

COLIN HILDING: We can't beat a country that never existed in the Olympics before now.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, exactly. All I want to take is going to win a medal soon. This is great. And just actually a quick note, we mentioned Vietnam yesterday won a gold medal. That was their very first Olympic gold medal. I should have really paid attention to that. Hwang Ju Vinh won the shooting men's 10-metre air pistol yesterday. Congratulations, Vietnam. China, this is going to get used to this. China wins a lot. They won the women's 10-metre air pistol. Zhang Mengzhu won that one. Australia obviously took out the women's trap. The swimming, a couple of big results. Adam Peaty broke his own world record that he broke the day before. Gold for Great Britain, great result there. You excited for that one, Colin?

COLIN HILDING: I had all of my nieces and nephews surrounding me as I watched that on my phone. And yeah, it seemed to be quite exciting among my family members there. They like to pick somebody that they can root for, and they weren't rooting for him, but when they saw Great Britain, they decided to change. Oh yeah, the guy we wanted won. Hooray! Even though they weren't cheering for him.

BEN WATERWORTH: He didn't seem very excited at all. He just went anyway. 4x100m, as we mentioned, USA won that one. 400-metre freestyle world record to Katie Ledecky. I called her Ledecky yesterday. Apologies for that.

COLIN HILDING: You got it right this night.

BEN WATERWORTH: I got it right. Katie Ledecky, world record. And as we said, Sweden, Seris, the one I said before, she won the women's 100-metre butterfly. And weightlifting, a world record to China's Long Qingquan, took out the men's 56 kilogram. And Chinese Taipei with Xiu Xiuqing won the women's 53 kilogram. I think that about covers it all. But just quickly, other big results we should mention. Jared, this is big in tennis. We lost both Novak Djokovic and the Williams Sisters out in the first round. What's going on in the tennis?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, who knows? Tennis at the Olympics is always a little bit weird and all over the shop. The Williams Sisters, I think it's the first time they've ever lost when they're playing together at the Olympics. Every other time they've won gold. So I mean, that was a huge shock. And Djokovic losing. I don't think anybody saw that coming. I mean, Joe Potra is a good player, but he's come back from injury after a year or so off. So yeah, that was a huge shock. And he was devastated at that loss.

BEN WATERWORTH: There's only about two or three, or just before Wimbledon, they were talking about him winning the golden slam, that nothing, nobody would touch him. And he's lost Wimbledon, he's lost the Olympics. So does this mean that Andy Murray's a lot to win the Olympics now, just like he wants to win Wimbledon?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Well, let's hope not.

BEN WATERWORTH: You don't like Andy?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Not the biggest Andy fan.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh wow, you two were talking up your Rafa love. I'm not a Rafa fan, I like Andy. So here we go, here's another rivalry between us coming up, the Rafa versus Andy show.

COLIN HILDING: You're going down, Waterworth.

BEN WATERWORTH: Wow, just don't talk anti-Rafa. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, the Williams sisters, because they've won about what, three gold medals, haven't they? Just in the doubles alone, not talking about Serena and Venus' single success. I know they've each won a singles gold medal between them, but yeah, so this is the first time some have ever lost in the Olympics, she said.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Pretty sure, yeah.

BEN WATERWORTH: That's incredible. There you go. Okay then. We will touch on Michael Phelps. We'll just quickly touch on Michael Phelps now. Yeah, all right. He won his 19th gold medal. I know you love Michael Phelps to bits, Colin, but not only was it his 19th gold medal, it was his 23rd medal overall. So if just quickly, if we were to put him on the all time Olympic medal list, Michael Phelps has now won more gold medals in Austria, Argentina, and Jamaica.

COLIN HILDING: Way more than, ooh, I wanna take ya.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, well way more than, ooh, I wanna take ya. And if we look at the total medal count, he's up there now equal with Portugal and Croatia. So there you go. Ooh, I wanna take ya. Might wanna recruit Michael Phelps. I mean, he was gonna win medals. We all know that it's Michael frickin Phelps. I mean, why is it a new story, Colin? Michael Phelps wins a gold medal. That's like saying the water is blue and people breathe oxygen today.

COLIN HILDING: This is gonna be, I think, the biggest surprise of the entire Olympics show that we have here. I found myself getting a little bit behind Michael Phelps last night. I was very shocked when I saw that. And I think it again has to do just with his story. I've complained that he's, I guess, a little bit arrogant. I know in past Olympics especially, it's pretty clear that there's really no friendship with him and his teams. That's always been a big deal with him. He's never been considered even a leader, even though he's the greatest Olympian they ever had. The other swimmers don't really look up to him or even talk to him. He's had his drug and alcohol issues, his arrests, stuff like that, suspensions. Through all of that, what I'm gathering is that he wanted to come back this time, not for ego, but because he didn't want to go out the way that he did in London, which was lazy, even though he won four gold medals. I mean, he was out of shape. He had his own personal issues. And now he's sort of coming back maybe just to redeem himself now that he has a child and he's cleaned himself up, gone through rehab. I'm kind of finding myself getting behind him a little bit. Not that I'm getting behind him to win, but I appreciate when I watched him walk out. And for the first time in his entire career, I saw him not just focus on himself, but sitting there high-fiving his teammates, smiling, laughing with them. This is a guy I think who's honestly turned around and I might be willing to root for him a little bit.

BEN WATERWORTH: Jared, what's your thoughts on Michael Phelps?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I'm just overhearing about him, to be honest. Like, congrats, you won another gold. Like you said, is it that unexpected? I mean, this is time that could be focused on party hats on equestrian horses, which I think is really... That's missing from the mainstream media, and they haven't really cottoned onto that yet, and I can't figure out for the life of me why. So yeah, less Michael Phelps, more party equestrian horses.

BEN WATERWORTH: It would only make it more exciting if they get him and like do some big photo shoot after the Olympics with like all these gold medals on and all this sort of stuff, and you got Thomas Bach there going, Michael, one gold medal, ah, ah, ah, two gold medals, ah, ah, and just keep going and going and going. I would watch that. I'm kind of just meh on Michael Phelps. I mean, congratulations. He's won more medals in a lot of countries in the world, and it's a feat. He's gonna go down as arguably the greatest Olympian of all time, but you know, it's like I'm kind of like, you kinda like the story behind something. We don't really hear too much in regards to the whole Michael Phelps story out here. I think we got one new story in the lead up about how Michael Phelps idolized Ian Thorpe and was obsessed with Ian Thorpe in the lead up to when he was sort of becoming a thing. So that was kind of interesting. But you know, there was a big article I read on one of our websites in the lead up where people were debating who's the greatest Olympian, Usain Bolt or Michael Phelps. And just the arguments for Usain Bolt was so better. Like he might not have won as many gold medals as Michael Phelps, but it's just, as we talked about in the first episode, who doesn't love Usain Bolt?

COLIN HILDING: Well, on top of that, like again, this is where, and maybe I'll slip back into a little bit of the criticism of Phelps, or at least the hype behind him. Yes, it's impressive he's won that many medals, but there's really only two sports. I guess if you include the Winter Olympics and speed skating, maybe you can get up to three. There's really only a couple of sports in either Olympics where you can compete in that many events to win that many medals. It's not like he's sad. This is Michael Phelps' 18th Olympic appearance. He's been going at it for almost 80 years.

BEN WATERWORTH: He's 97.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, even in running, it's considered a big deal that Hussein Bolt does both the one and 200 metre because you just don't have athletes that do both. When you're in swimming, you will compete in nine different events in one Olympics. That's one of the only ones you can do that. So to say that he's the greatest swimmer of all time, you could say that, but you can't really compare him to an athlete who only really has the ability to appear in one or two events.

BEN WATERWORTH: That's true. And I guess also running, anyone can run. Like any, I mean, I guess out of all the sports in the Olympics, athletics would probably have the biggest representation from all the countries in the world, whereas, you know, there was a huge big deal back in Sydney, wasn't it? Jared with Eric the Eel from Equatorial Guinea, because they literally didn't have a swimming pool in the country or something like that, though we had to swim in like polluted rivers. So that was a huge big, you know, story. It was great. You know, you don't really see domination from the Sudanese swimmers or things like that, whereas obviously Sudan are probably good at running. So, you know, not everyone's good at swimming as well. So yeah, I don't know. We can talk about it. We're gonna get to a sane in what? About a week's time. So, you know, Phelps will win a couple more gold. Get over it. We're going on with this segment a little bit. I want to get to what did you watch, but just real quickly on the medal tally, sadly Australia are now in third. We had our one day of glory, Jared. We'll take it. But yeah, so USA on top right now. Three gold, five silver, four bronze. 12 in total. China, three gold, two silver, three bronze. And Australia third with three gold, zero silver, and three bronze. Canada currently sitting pretty in 18th place, equal with Kazakhstan with a silver and a bronze. Up yours, Borat. So if we reorganize this by total medals though, you would be up there with the great Thailand and Chinese Taipei. So just quickly, Japan, they're having a pretty interesting game. He's won gold and six bronze. So they're getting sick.

COLIN HILDING: Can I just say something about Canada here? Of course you can. We may only have two medals, but Penny Alexiak has double the amount of medals that Michael Phelps does in this Olympics. Take that, Viet Phelps.

BEN WATERWORTH: That is true. That is true. And if we want to be technical, New Zealand has won as many medals as Michael Phelps. So New Zealand are doing very well at these Olympics. They're in 20th position right now. 20th position, New Zealand. They've got a solver.

COLIN HILDING: Oh, they're behind Canada.

BEN WATERWORTH: They are.

COLIN HILDING: How embarrassing.

BEN WATERWORTH: They're equal with France. That's why they're having a national holiday. They're up there with the powerhouse of the French, but they're also equal with North Korea and Indonesia. So, but more importantly, they're ahead of their great rivals of Uzbekistan. Just some other really brief news. Russia have been banned from the Paralympics. Do we care about that? Cool.

COLIN HILDING: I noticed during the 100 relay, I don't know if you probably saw it too, the four by 100 relay that when Russia came out, the crowd booed, like this is pro wrestling or something like that. And I don't know why they were trying to talk it up. It's like, ooh, Russian, Canadian commentators, Russia getting a pretty cold reception here. Well, yes. I don't know. I really do love, I think this is the first time since Torino where we've had a country that responds almost in an immature way, and it's kind of fun to watch. I like how vicious these Brazilians are.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes. Russia have won a gold, two silver and two bronzes that will no doubt be returned in a couple of years time. So go Russia. And just quickly, I really wanted to touch on this one because I think we wouldn't be a good podcast if we didn't mention this. Jared, it's been all over our media here since Mac Horton won the gold. We might be at war with China at the end of the week because he's getting ripped a new one by Chinese social media people after his sledge of Sun Yang. Pretty much all of his social media accounts have been taken over by angry Chinese people, including such comments as calling the entire nation of Australia an offshore prison, and also just saying to Mac that he's a loser, a snake, ugly, and you make me sick. Jared, have you prepared your bomb shelter and getting ready to be splashed heavily by China by the end of the week?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I have invested in a raincoat and an umbrella, depending on the level of the splashing. But I'm not concerned because, given that bronze medal in archery, I think we're very well defended. Yes, and shooting. We just let the results do the talking.

BEN WATERWORTH: And gold medal is shooting. I do have to quickly say that it's funny. There's a British photographer called Mark Horton who has been getting abuse on Twitter, and people are confusing him with Mac Horton. So I think his photos are gonna do quite well all of a sudden because, like, oh, you're the guy.

COLIN HILDING: Can we change our segment of the day instead of sending a fan message? Can we send a really angry message to Mark Horton today?

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, the Mark Horton angry tweet of the day. You make me sick. I hate how you call us cheats. All right, what did we watch today, folks? Jarrod, I'm gonna start with you. Tell us, what did you pay attention to on day two?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Day two, I mean, the Equestrian, that was a given. I saw a little bit of the judo, which confused me greatly. And then lots and lots of gymnastics. I mean, that was kind of Channel 7's focus for the evening.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes. Oh, I wasn't complaining about that. I really want to talk about judo. I really do. Because I swear that nobody knows what's going on. Even the commentators. We'll get to this after when I talk a little bit about Channel 7's commentary team. But I was watching this and I swear even the commentators had no idea what was going on. The crowd had no idea what was going on. I had no idea. I don't think the judo players or athletes, whatever you call them, had no idea what was going on. Colin, you said you watched a bit of the judo. Did you know what was going on?

COLIN HILDING: I had no clue. I was wondering why the crowd was booing them.

BEN WATERWORTH: They were booing because they thought they were meant to have tickets to the beach volleyball. This is what I paid for. But once I was watching this one, they were talking this up. This was the first match by this Antoine Bouchard from Canada. He was up against Raymond Ovenew from Papua New Guinea, the great Raymond Ovenew of Papua New Guinea. And they come out and they're talking this up. And oh, this is just such an effort for this Papua New Guinean to make it to the Olympics. He's doing his nation proud. The game was over, the match, whatever you call it, was over in 43 seconds. The Canadian did whatever is an Uchi Mata, wins it via Ipon, and gets 100 points for it. Jared, I don't think we were talking about this. What the hell is an Uchi Mata and an Ipon? Isn't Ipon a brand of camera?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I don't know, but the thing that I just couldn't wrap my head around was the point score you flip somebody on to their back, you get 100 points. You flip somebody on to their side, you get 1 point. What type of discrepancy is that? You could give somebody 10 points? No, 100. I mean, what's the point? It just doesn't make sense. You have to flip somebody on to their side 100 times to equal the same as flipping somebody on their back once.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, it was the Australian, the Nathan Katz match I was watching too, at one point there, he was flipped over, like on his back, and then they were all like, oh no, that's it. You know, Imaad Basu's won. That's an Uchi Mata. Shame for Nathan. And then the referee was all like, no, no, no, continue. And like, oh, great news for Australia, he's only gotten one point against him. Tudow is like the sport where nobody knows what's going on. They just do it. And even the people playing it are like, oh, he was on his back ref. That's that's 100 points.

COLIN HILDING: I win.

BEN WATERWORTH: That's an Uchi Mata.

COLIN HILDING: I just a correction here and a call back to a segment from yesterday. Uchi Mata is actually the name of Team Canada Judo. So we have our first official team name, the Uchi Matas.

BEN WATERWORTH: The great Uchi Matas from Canada already with a fourth place at these Olympics. So what else did you want?

COLIN HILDING: Canada's position.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, exactly. Was there anything else you paid attention to, Colin, that we haven't mentioned already?

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, fencing. After your recommendations, I tuned into fencing for the first time since Barcelona, I think. And I don't know when it became something out of Tron Legacy, but I love the fact that their masks have flashing lights. The floor has flashing lights. I just want the swords to be lightsabers all of a sudden. This was amazing. I didn't realise that Tron 3 was happening. I love it. I can't wait for light cycles in Tokyo. It's one of the most fascinating things I've ever seen. This is the difference between Barcelona and now, I guess. When did it actually start like that? I'm really curious.

BEN WATERWORTH: I don't know. It's this whole Olympic ideal of appealing to the youth. They hand out ecstasy tablets at the door and start playing lots of Skrillex in between bouts and gets the kids involved. That's how you do it with fencing.

COLIN HILDING: Well, I'll be watching more fencing unless it's over now. Is it over now?

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, God, no, I think it's got plenty to go yet. We've only had the foil, haven't we? We haven't had the saber or the epa or the bond versus grave sword fight. So like plenty to go, Colin. Come on.

COLIN HILDING: Oh, I can't wait for the lightsabers. This is going to be amazing. Another sport that I probably haven't watched in Barcelona, I keep mentioning Barcelona is because that was the first Olympics, as I said, that I think I really got into as a kid.

BEN WATERWORTH: And come on, ever since that artist shot the flame with an arrow like that's that's the games we all remember.

COLIN HILDING: Oh, yeah. And it was, I think being the first Olympics that I ever really watched consistently, I probably watched every event. So there'll be a lot of times here like weightlifting where I'm like first time since Barcelona, I think I may have seen some in Athens, but I was watching that I was at a 56 kilogram, the men's and I had again nieces and nephews surrounded around my phone watching as a bunch of 130 pound Asian men were crushed underneath 350 pound weights. That was a fascinating thing about it. I think every time I've seen weightlifting in the past, it's been the larger weight class where you got these big muscular guys and seeing these tiny, tiny men. It's really impressive when they do get it all the way up, but when they don't, you honestly get crushed underneath it. It's kind of funny. So I'll be watching more weightlifting just to see if somebody can get crushed to death.

BEN WATERWORTH: Weightlifting is a fascinating sport. It really is. Wait till the super heavyweights come on. There's some athletes.

COLIN HILDING: And another one I don't really understand the rules on. Like there doesn't seem to be an order and it never seems to end. I ended up having to quit after about 45 minutes of watching and I think it was close to the end when I started. But yeah, weightlifting, I'll watch more of that. Volleyball was my big one. I the diving was I was waiting for it. And I remember as we were getting ready to eat lunch and my son is, I don't know, flirting with Emily Overholt on TV or whatever. And I'm just like, come on, we got to eat soon. Diving is going to start. And if I had known how disappointing it would have been, I might have been OK with just PVRing it. But volleyball, big surprise of the day. And I had to watch that live on an American channel. Maybe Canada will learn now. Entire evening, as I said, I watched a bit of the gymnastics, just enough to see Canada slip and fall and almost get a concussion. And yeah, the swimming, Penny Alexiak was the big one. And I did enjoy watching Adam Petey as well. That guy has a lot of energy and a lot of world records, I guess, breaking his own. Katie Ledecky, I'll talk about that really quickly. Again, another one with all my nieces and nephews around me. And I love how kids will just always find a way to cheat to win something. Because, as I said, when Adam Petey was swimming, they were not cheering for him until they saw he won. And then that was the guy they were rooting for. With Katie Ledecky, I made the mistake going in of saying, well, look, we got a Canadian in there. Like, oh, I'm going to cheer for the Canadian. And I'm like, oh, well, Katie Ledecky, she's going to win. There's no question about it. They're like, why is she going to win? I'm like, well, because she wins everything. She has all of the fastest times in this event. And suddenly everybody was rooting for her. And when she was winning, she's like, see, I told you she was going to win. And I'm like, I think I was the one who told you that she was going to win. But impressive to see her set a world record, an entire body length ahead of her own previous world record. That was something else. And I think that's the thing that they talk about her being Michael Phelps. And that's the difference between the two. Michael Phelps may win all these medals, but she pretty much destroys everybody where it's not even a contest. And it is quite impressive to watch.

BEN WATERWORTH: She's only 19, is she not? She was 15 in London when she won a gold, 800 metres. And 19 now, I mean, for god sakes, if she... I mean, how old is Phelps? He's, what, at least 30 something by now, surely. 31. 31. So, I mean, god, Ledecky's still got a couple of Olympics in her, so look out. Look out world. Yeah, I paid a lot of attention to gymnastics. You know I love my gymnastics. And it was interesting. I don't know if either of you two caught the moment when the crowd started doing the Mexican wave that the PA announced to actually encourage them to do. And so much so that the athletes had to stop and wait for it to finish because it was putting them off on their routines. So I thought that was quite interesting. And also the fact too that the commentators were talking about the fact that you're not allowed to have lyrics in your music, but you're allowed to have vocals that hum. So you can have like, mmm, things like that. Well, that was very good analytical commentary by the Australian Gymnastics team. We'll get to that. I also, yeah, Judo, I'm loving rugby. I'm not a rugby fan. People assume Australia, we love rugby. Jared, you're in a rugby state. I don't know how you necessarily feel about rugby, but there's a big divide in Australia when it comes to where you live, whether you like rugby or Australian rules football. I sit on the Australian rules football fence and not too big on the rugby. But this rugby sevens, it's entertaining, I like it. Watch the shooting, as I mentioned. Very interesting. They keep having this no bird section where they meant to fire the trap and it doesn't work. So the shooter has to wait and call it again. And then I want the job. I don't know if either of you saw the man in the chair with the red flag. So that whenever one of the shooters missed a target, he simply sat there and raised the red flag. Now, how do I get that job? That's the easiest job in the world.

COLIN HILDING: Ben, I think we were all worried when you talked about gymnastics and then you said, I want the job. We were worried where you're going to go with that.

BEN WATERWORTH: Get your mind out of the gutter, please. Colin, we're not up to Ben's wife segment yet. And the... what else did I watch? Hockey. Yes, I used to play hockey. That's field hockey, not this ice business. And the one thing that I noticed in all the sports that I watched is that there's still nobody showing up. Can somebody please go to Rio and tell people the Olympics are on? Because no one's there. No one's going. I haven't seen crowds this empty since Athens. I mean, Jared, I reckon you can get the ticket right now to the 100m final because no one's going.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Even better than that, I can get into the 100m final.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, you'll take Josh Clark's spot for Australia. Colin, what's going on? You're closer to Rio than we are. Can you just drive there and go watch some events?

COLIN HILDING: Well, this is where it's funny because I've been wondering that too. And then I noticed that a lot of these venues are considerably bigger than the venues we've seen in past Olympics, especially the beach volleyball one. I mean, it's enormous. And maybe that's just because beach volleyball is so big there. But it's funny, though, that you can watch beach volleyball and the stands are only half full. And it sounds like there's 40,000 people there just because they're so into it. So I think the excitement of the crowd is making up for the fact that there's a lot of empty seats. But if you look at a lot of these venues, they seed a lot more. I'm really excited to see what's going to go on. When we get to the 100 metre, they could have only a third of the people in there, and it's just going to blow the non-existent roof off the place, I guess.

BEN WATERWORTH: One of the funniest bits of commentary, which I'm jumping ahead a bit here, but in the judo, at one point, the commentator turned around and said, you can tell by the hush of the crowd that they're really into this one. There was nobody there. That's why the hush of the crowd was there. Between booing and not knowing, that was where they left. They realised they were in the wrong venue. I just thought that was funny. All right, so athlete of the day then, did you pay particular note to anybody, Colin?

COLIN HILDING: I paid particular note to Penny Alexiak. That's the only name I'm gonna accept today unless you have a good funny story to tell.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, well, I've got a couple here. You know I've always got a couple ready to go. Jarrod, who was your horse of the day?

JARROD LOOBEEK: A Batman horse, definitely. I didn't catch its real name, but I mean, you're not going to because he's in disguise. Other than that, though, I was watching the Rugby Sevens as Kenya was playing, and I saw possibly the worst conversion kick I've ever seen in my life. So shout out to Janet. We know I think there may be a spot for you on the football team because you do not kick a conversion along the ground last time I checked.

BEN WATERWORTH: Come and play rugby for like Newcastle Knights or something like that. I have a couple. Special shout out to Oksana Chosavitvina. I don't know if either of you caught this. The Uzbekistanian gymnast. She's 41 years old, if you don't mind. This is her seventh Olympics, and she's made it through to the final of the vault. Now, she has competed for Germany, the unified team, and the Soviet Union until currently competing for Uzbekistan. She's actually won an Olympic gold medal. She was part of the German team that won the team gold medal back in Barcelona again. And she took the silver back in Beijing in the vault. And so she would have been like 33 at that point. So we're used to seeing gymnasts. Of course, I'm constantly having to Google to make sure they're legal age before I say they're attractive. And of course, the Chinese team.

COLIN HILDING: Did you have to Google this one?

BEN WATERWORTH: Definitely not. I could tell she was of age. But I think that's great. 41 years old in gymnastics. Like that is amazing achievement. I mean, I'm nowhere near 41 and I still couldn't compete in gymnastics. So I've got a new Oksana. Ashley McKenzie. Now she's a British judo athlete, player. I don't know, judo and whatever. She was eliminated. She didn't win anything, but there's actually an image doing the rounds on the internet right now. Somebody snapped her. She obviously snuck out into the corridors of the judo venue. She had to beat through all the crowds. It was very hard. But they've snapped an image of her, like collapsed on the ground, bawling her eyes out near a wheelie bin. So it's actually quite a sad image, but you know, it's the Olympics. She's sad, of course. The Australian, you're talking about Rugby Sevens, Jared. I don't know if you saw the American match, but Charlotte Kaslick, who did an epic rundown of an American. I don't know what the American's called. She was an American rugby player. But out of nowhere, she sprinted down and completely tackled this chick about a metre from the line to save an absolute certain try. It was amazing. But I have to give it to Catherine Skinner for winning Golden Trap, just because we weren't expecting it. And it's a gold, not a silver, Colin. So, do you know what that is?

COLIN HILDING: Silver is Canada's gold.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, we haven't won a silver yet, so you're beating us in the silver. Sorry, that's something to take out of it.

COLIN HILDING: We are currently leading this podcast in silver.

BEN WATERWORTH: That's true. Jarrod, here we go. We can give that to Colin. You won a silver? Ask Canada.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, you think they could lend us one? We'll give them another bronze. I don't think we'd give up gold, but we've got a couple of bronze to spare. Yes.

BEN WATERWORTH: Right, so, just going through here right now. We're trying to find me a wife, apparently. I'm just reading. Of course, she's up there. Well, there is actually a gymnast who could be quite up there. Anna Derick, a Croatian gymnast. Everyone Google her right now, because she could possibly, possibly rival Brit Elmsley as a future wife candidate. I would happily take her to an event at the Olympics and get free tickets, because the nobody's there. And I had to look up this Emily Overholt a little bit more, Colin, and she seems like a nice lady. So I think this is going to be the Ben Creepy segment of the Olympics.

COLIN HILDING: My son has spoken for Emily Overholt. I'm sorry.

BEN WATERWORTH: Right. So who's she going to choose? A four month old or a 29 year old? Emily, tweet us your answer. Anyway, I mean, Colin, you're married. You can't really search for a future wife. Sorry, Jared, you can join in this segment.

COLIN HILDING: I'll accept that challenge.

BEN WATERWORTH: Is Jamie around? Like she can search for a husband. You know, I don't know what your arrangements are. Jared, you can join in this segment. Have you looked for a wife yet?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I have not, and I would hate to rain on your parade. So, I think I might just leave this to you.

BEN WATERWORTH: Bat horse, that can be yours. Bat horse? Anyway, I want to talk about the... We talk about this commentary.

COLIN HILDING: Can I talk about your future wife? What was her name again?

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, Anna Derrick. Have we looked... Yes, you can give me analysis of Ben's wife. As the oldest member of this team, your wise wisdom of being a married man and to say what wife material Anna Derrick from Croatia would be for Ben Mordowicz. Sure, go for it.

COLIN HILDING: Is there... Ben, are you... Ben, are you sure you have confirmed she is of legal age?

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, she is 19, I believe. So that's okay.

COLIN HILDING: Well, close. She will be 18 in less than a month.

BEN WATERWORTH: All right. Well, that's still legal in a month.

COLIN HILDING: I'm going to say no to this one.

BEN WATERWORTH: We're going to plan the wedding. We're not getting married in the next month. I'm going to break up with Brit first. So I can become a Mormon and move to Salt Lake City and then I can marry both. But look, we'll see how we go. We've got to meet them first. They're going to listen to this episode.

COLIN HILDING: The search is still open here. The search is still open.

BEN WATERWORTH: By the end of these Olympics, Ben Wardworth will have an Olympian wife. I'm actually just quickly watching the equestrian and somebody just took a tumble. I don't know if you're watching this at the same time, Jared.

COLIN HILDING: Is bat a horse of legal age is the real question.

BEN WATERWORTH: How many hands length is bat horse? It's all about the size. Coverage. Now, we're talking about commentary, the awkward commentary moments. I've got a few today. But Colin, update us on the Canadian experience in watching the Olympics because by the sounds of things talking to you off air, it's not exactly that bad. So maybe we all need to move to Canada and watch former Olympians watch Olympic moments because that sounds more fun than some of the stuff we're getting at the moment.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, nothing too embarrassing today. Other than just I would have loved for them to plate up more on the Russians getting booed. That would have been fantastic. And I still don't understand why the CBC app still has several events with no commentary. I'd like to see some real commentary in there, even if it's not in English. Just have a guy going out there babbling, making up a language, just something.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, what we can do is we can do these live broadcasting on Facebook now, and we can just sit there and we can commentate for Canada. We could do it for them. Yes. You know, why not? We'd still be more knowledgeable than a lot of the commentators we've got in Australia for some sports. So you mentioned that you can watch NBC at the same time. I mean, how is NBC's coverage? Because we hear a lot about how they pay so much for it, and we know they've influenced start times, the swimming finals in the past because of the amount of money, and they try to bribe the IOC into making America walk out later on in the opening ceremony. I mean, is NBC's coverage actually decent?

COLIN HILDING: No, not really. Their prime time coverage has always been focused just on, I guess, swimming and gymnastics. That's all you get. But I mean, we get a lot of that here. They don't really go back to other events. Their afternoon coverage is so puzzling because they will just pick one sport and show it nonstop. Like I said, the road race, the very first day of Olympic coverage, the very first event they covered was pretty much six hours of nonstop road race. Nothing else. Like on Canadian coverage, they'll cover a bit of that. They'll cut to another event. Oh, we have some breaking news here or something. It was just nonstop road race. And the fact that they do always influence the start times and even the swimming this time, it's like the latest start time that they've had for swimming. And there's been a lot of people talking about that. Probably has to do with American primetime coverage. It is so confusing that they aired their opening ceremonies an hour to an hour and a half later than the live feed. And I just don't understand why. They make such a big deal about getting it. And then they waited till like 7.30 in the evening here to actually start airing it. So I don't get the American coverage at all.

BEN WATERWORTH: So this is a network that invented must-see television with like Friends and Seinfeld and all that sort of stuff in the 90s. And their must-see television in the afternoon is the fucking road race.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, six hours non-stop.

BEN WATERWORTH: Jared's all into that.

COLIN HILDING: Not even my back-and-fuck with Dr. Paul, just non-stop.

BEN WATERWORTH: Jared's moving to America right now.

JARROD LOOBEEK: If they found Richie Porte quicker than we did, then yes, I'd consider it.

BEN WATERWORTH: Channel 7 is still looking for him. They're sending Bruce McEvaney out there right now. Richie, where are you?

COLIN HILDING: They were booing. They're like, get back to the road race.

BEN WATERWORTH: Where's Richie? That's why they're booing. Boo, get off the mat, Juno players. Send out the search team for Richie. I believe they're actually gonna start making, instead of where's Wally in Australia, they're gonna be where's Richie books. Oh God, and he's Tasmanian. Come on now, he's got two heads. Jared, you kind of were positive for Channel 7 in our first episode. You said they were the Olympic network in Australia. It feels right for the Olympics to be on Channel 7. One thing though, that in Australia, as you would know, it's almost like a national sport every four years to bash the Olympic coverage of whatever network's showing it. I've written down a bunch of notes here in terms of why I think they're doing pretty shit, but I feel like you might talk them up a little bit more positively than I will at least. I mean, what's been your take so far on the Channel 7 Olympic coverage?

JARROD LOOBEEK: To be honest, I've been bitterly disappointed. And the thing I think that annoys me more than anything is commentators who don't know what they're talking about, Colin's events without commentary actually sounds like a real blessing. And then the fact that you have three channels that you're showing the Olympics on, and then they all manage to go to an ad at the same time. And it just is so frustrating. I'm like, show something on the TV. You don't need to go to an ad on all your channels at the same time. Just have one channel if you're gonna do that.

BEN WATERWORTH: Indeed. And speaking of the ads, are you not getting sick to death? I mean, Channel 7 are renowned for over-advertising shit. If I see one more ad for Zumbo's Just Desserts, I will shoot someone. I will get the gold medal in trap, because I'm sick of seeing Zumbo's Just Desserts. Colin doesn't even know what I'm talking about right now. But I don't even know who Zumbo is. I don't give a fuck that he cooks dessert. And like if I see one more tagline of After The Olympics, again, I will shoot someone. The animations of the birds and the squawking and the little animals. Colin, tell me that like CBC do like some little cute little animation of like Brazilian animals or like a Samba dance or something. Do they do that?

COLIN HILDING: No, nothing like that.

BEN WATERWORTH: One movie to Canada. I am because Jared, we've got what this annoying animation of like a toucan flying over the stadium and like you're always here. Like every time they go to an ad, what is what is Channel 7 on? I thought they were meant to be professional with their animation.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, that's pretty tragic. Yeah, that's another one. Every time you see it, like, oh, and first of all, it's an ad, so it's bad enough. But then that leading into the ad, it just makes you more enraged.

BEN WATERWORTH: There's been a big article, big thing today. Sunrise was on this morning, the breakfast show on Channel 7. They aired Sunrise instead of showing Olympic sports. Twitter went up in absolute uproar for the fact that they're showing an interview with Blake Lively rather than showing, like, the actual Olympics. So that's something that we're up in arms about. The app, where do we start on this app, Jared? I've actually got it working right now. This is a shock, but every time I try to get it working, it just hangs on the loading screen. They're coming out and saying, oh, we've had two million views compared to 800,000 with the Australian Open. And then when they say there's a problem, they blame it on the worldwide feed. Have you got the app working yet, Jared?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I have not, and that's extra annoying at work. I just want to check something real quick, watch a bit of the sport, and then, yeah, suck on the loading screen. I mean, two million views of the loading screen is probably not that impressive.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes. Have you caught the magnificent little thing that they do every now and then called Buzz From Brazil? Have you seen that yet?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I have, and I wish to never see it again. I don't think I've ever sat through five minutes of more awkward TV in my life.

BEN WATERWORTH: We're gonna paint a picture for Colin here, somehow, because it's hosted by, well, Matt Mitchum, an Olympic gold medalist. He won the, what, the 10-metre platform diving in Beijing, I think our first gold medalist in diving in about 100 years when he won that. And then somebody, Tegan Nass, I've no idea who the hell she is. It's kind of like these two people sitting on a couch trying to be funny, saying, hey, did you see this funny tweet from the same bolt? And here's the US. Olympic swim team in a car, singing to a song. Ha ha ha ha, hilarious. And then I don't know if you saw Jared Talent, our Olympic gold medalist in walking, lip syncing to Peter Allen's, I Go To Rio. And then to which Matt Mitchum comes out from and goes, oh, he's got a lot of talent. So it's like the dad joke segment. Colin, do you have like some little lighthearted segment that the Canadians do?

COLIN HILDING: No, we take it very seriously here. I just think it's funny that you're sitting here criticising people trying to find comedy in the Olympics.

BEN WATERWORTH: Hey, we're comedic geniuses. You shut up, Colin Hilding. The Oz Network has been creating classic commentary and comedy since 2011. I mean, if you're gonna have a segment like this, Roy and HG, now look, we shouldn't be promoting another podcast, but they're doing a podcast about the Olympics. It's about a thousand times better than this piece of shit you're listening to right now. Listen to it. It's Roy and Frickin HG, the guys who did The Dream, everybody in Australia still talks about The Dream. Why can they not fly them out to Rio and do this, Jared? Like, what is going on? If Triple M can put them on a podcast for half an hour a day, surely Channel 7, instead of putting Matt Mitchum and whoever the fuck Tegan Nass is, get Roy and HG.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it's a national travesty. I mean, this is up there with these zero silver medals. This is potentially a bigger issue than that.

BEN WATERWORTH: Get Bat Horse onto this. Where is Bat Horse? Come save the day. Bat Horse would find Richie Porte. That's how good Bat Horse is.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Bat Horse should be on Buzz from Brazil, and it ends not. What about Bat Horse's social media account? This is the hard-hitting journalist questions that I want to know. Who is Bat Horse?

BEN WATERWORTH: Who is Bat Horse? And when are we gonna see Bat Horse versus super dressage person Dawn of Junk? That was a bad joke. This is why you should listen to Roy and HG, because they don't come up with shit like that. Now, I want to go to some commentary, because you talked about the commentators not knowing anything. I was thinking exactly the same thing. I swear they just get random people who work at Channel 7 to commentate on stuff, because we had, in the judo, the commentator turned to whoever, I don't even know his name. That's how I don't even know it is. He turns to the, quote, judo expert when they're trying to decide the match and says, what do those hand signals say? Now, I don't want a commentator asking the same questions as I am. He should be there saying, well, that raising the hand isn't Uchi Mata. Clearly, he has won by 100 points. I want them to be telling me, not asking the same questions as I am. Next thing you're gonna have the commentator at an exium go, oh, just hang on a minute there, Brett. I'll just Google that one for you. Colin, can we please have your comments, your events with no commentary? I want that. I'm with Jared.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, just subscribe to the CBC Rio app and you'll have it.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, other great commentary moments. In the shooting, when they're obviously getting very excited for the fact we're about to win a gold medal, that they're basically cheering every single time that the New Zealand girl misses a shot. And then Russell Mark, who of course is a great Australian shooter, he did win a gold back in Atlanta. He turns around and says, you're hoping someone misses and you feel bad. I'm sure you don't feel bad, Russell, because we're gonna win a gold medal, all right? Like I'm cheering every time the New Zealand girl misses a shot. Don't be nice. And then the great commentary, when they go, oh, I miss. Like shooting, like the shitest sport to commentate on. Oh, she's hit that target. Oh, she's missed. But I think the standout, the standout. Now, Jared, you've got to have noticed this. The Channel 7 interview techniques post-medal. We touched on this already with the fact that we've got our athletes wishing people were dead and calling out drug cheats. We had some more great moments from this. So, Neil Kearney, he's been around for a very long time. He always goes to the Olympics at Channel 7. Gets to interview Katherine Skinner after she's won the gold medal. He turns around and goes, what did you feel when your opponent misses the targets? Katherine Skinner turns around and says, I was actually laughing at it. She's being honest. And then she's talking about the fact, like she's talking about her mum, her whole family was there. Great, Neil Kearney's mentioned that. So he said something like, you know, oh, what do you think your mum was thinking, Catherine, Catherine's going to go, oh, I don't know what my mum was thinking. To which Neil Kearney turned, and this is said so creepily, can I just add, he says, I do, I was with her. I don't even know what that means. Then we had the divers being interviewed about winning their bronze medal. I don't even know who the girl was interviewing her. She turns around and says to one of the divers, Annabel Smith, she says, what are you gonna do with your bronze medal? To which Annabel Smith replies, I'll probably sleep with it. So she's picked up at the Olympics, good job. The worst moment, though, Kylie Gillies. Now, we love her in Australia, don't we, Jared? She hosts the morning show with Larry Emder. Where's Larry? Larry should be at the Olympics, shouldn't he? He'd be good at the Olympics.

COLIN HILDING: Where is Larry? Let's get to the bottom of this.

BEN WATERWORTH: He's with Richie. Colin's so incensed that Larry, he doesn't know who Larry Emder is. Where's Larry? Anyway, so both our female diver bronze medallists, they're talking up, they love each other, they're best friends, all this sort of stuff. They cut back to the studio. Kylie Gilley says this exact phrase. They certainly are BFFs, bronze friends forever. I don't know where they come, I mean, do they have the team from Off The Podium writing their jokes for them? Oh, I'm gonna leave it at that. Jared, seriously, what is going on with their interviews, I don't know.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, every time they come on, you brace for the cringe very early on, and you know that they're just gonna ask this stupid question that most of the time doesn't relate anything to the sport they've actually competed in, and it's just some stupid jab to make the athlete feel really uncomfortable and just ruin the interview.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yep, exactly. All right, this is our longest episode, but it's worth it, it's fun. Colin.

COLIN HILDING: The segment of Jared's Jouse is brought to you by Ben Waterworth.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, exactly, exactly, excuse me. Colin, do we have a Canadian athlete of the day in terms of their profile?

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I was fully prepared long before yesterday even started to go over Jennifer Abel or Pamela Ware who were in the diving. But I guess considering the big win we had in volleyball and Gavin Schmidt, maybe the greatest male volleyball player Canada's ever had, we're gonna go with Gavin Schmidt today, leader of Team Canada Volleyball. And what's that?

BEN WATERWORTH: Gavin, sorry, I just know him, he's my brother, oh, Gavi.

COLIN HILDING: Oh yeah, good old Gavin. Schmidty is what we like to call him. So it starts with, hello, my name is Gavin Schmidt and I am Canadian. My favourite Olympic moment is, don't have one yet, will be when I arrive. Um, if I could choose any Olympic host city, it would be anywhere in Canada. So two questions in, he's not very decisive, we can figure that much out.

BEN WATERWORTH: Can I just interrupt, I discovered a new city in Canada, which I think could host the Olympics, Red Deer in Alberta, can that host the Olympics?

COLIN HILDING: Why Red Deer?

BEN WATERWORTH: Because you've got an actual place called Red Deer, like that's the name of it, like I'm going to go to Red Deer today, like what the hell is that?

COLIN HILDING: Man, if you don't know enough about Canada, I think that's impressive. We have a place here in Manitoba called Flynn-Flon.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Oh, Flynn-Flon 2028, please.

BEN WATERWORTH: Right, we're starting to bid, hang on, stop the breath. Fuck Hobart 2024, 2028, it's Flynn-Flon, 2028, Summer Olympics.

COLIN HILDING: We're going to claim this is Gavin Schmidt's real answer, is I would choose Flynn-Flon, Manitoba as the Olympic O city. All right, so moving on. In my spare time, I most like to watch TV and cook, I guess at the same time. This I really want people to Google. If you want to find it, just look for, Hi, my name is Team Canada. And then look up Gavin Schmidt. Draw a picture of yourself. He has drawn what looks like a grown man drooling, wearing a full-size bunny suit. And the words bunny hug with an arrow pointed towards it.

BEN WATERWORTH: That's the mascot of Flynn-Flon, 2028, a man in a bunny suit drooling.

COLIN HILDING: There will be more on this later, I promise that. The weirdest instruction a coach ever gave me was, do whatever you want. My favourite workout is weight lifting in general. I want to see Gavin Schmidt get crushed underneath his weights. That would be fantastic. If I could have lunch with any person, it would be Kevin Hart would be a hilarious lunch. My favourite sandwich is, this is what everybody's gonna be making today, Parmesan prosciutto chicken sandwich. That does sound delicious. That does sound quite good, actually. Draw a picture of a Canadian animal. He has drawn a bunny underneath the sunshine in a tree. This man has a thing for bunnies.

BEN WATERWORTH: I didn't know bunnies were Canadian.

COLIN HILDING: I am a Canadian man. That doesn't mean men are Canadian. He just said draw a picture of a Canadian animal, and he said, this is a bunny in Canada, so I guess it qualifies.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, this is a panda in Canada, totally Canadian.

COLIN HILDING: If I could have any superpower, it would be teleportation. I don't know how that helps in volleyball, but maybe you could be a one man team or something. The best candy in the world is, his answer is not a candy guy, but anything sour. As a kid, my favourite sports team was the Chicago Bulls. My favourite sports movie is, this is a good one, baseball.

BEN WATERWORTH: Ah, yes.

COLIN HILDING: Now this is the type of player I want to get behind. We had this yesterday with Emily Overholt's pizza medal. What would be the coolest Olympic medal look like? His Olympic medal is a medal with the Olympic symbols and somebody giving a thumbs up underneath it.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, there's a medal design for Flynn Flon. Give a thumbs up.

COLIN HILDING: If I could live anywhere in the world, it would be honestly anywhere in Canada. We're going to claim that as Flynn Flon, Manitoba, too. When I was little, I always thought that they were called bunny hugs, and he puts in brackets he's referring to hoodies. Now, we understand the grown man in the bunny suit.

BEN WATERWORTH: What is with the bunny?

COLIN HILDING: A hoodie is a bunny hug. I don't know, and I've never heard anybody refer to it as a bunny hug, but he thought hoodies were called bunny hugs. My favourite joke to tell is any good dad joke. And this, I don't understand why most of the athletes do this. Write this sentence in cursive, and they put live your passion, which I guess is the catchphrase for this Olympics. So he had to write live your passion in cursive. The funny thing about this, again, Google it if you want. Hi, my name is Gavin Schmidt, Team Canada. He started writing live your passion, and had to cross it out. So I'm guessing his cursive is not so good. And then he finished and corrected it properly. Live your passion in cursive.

BEN WATERWORTH: OK, he's passionate. He's bunnies.

COLIN HILDING: Live your passion. He was starting to write bunnies, bunnies. And then he had to cross it out. No, live your passion.

BEN WATERWORTH: I've just I've just quickly googled Flynn Flon just really quickly. The fact that it's named after the fictional character of Hosea Flynn Tabarty Flontaine. So there's a giant statue.

JARROD LOOBEEK: That's going to be epic.

BEN WATERWORTH: There's a giant statue of this guy on some rocks as you enter the town, apparently. Oh, yeah, yeah. Have you been to Flynn Flon?

COLIN HILDING: I have never been to Flynn Flon. No, it's not number one on my destination chart.

BEN WATERWORTH: Until 2028?

COLIN HILDING: Yeah.

BEN WATERWORTH: This is the population of 5,363 live in Manitoba and 229 in Saskatchewan. So it's right on the border. It will be like how the Manitoban and Saskatchewan get along there, Colin. Are they going to co-share these games?

COLIN HILDING: We get along about as well as Australia and New Zealand. So I don't see that happening.

BEN WATERWORTH: This is great. Wow, we've started something here. I'm just looking at the mayor, Cal Huntley. Wasn't he on the Titanic? Didn't he have Rose stolen away from him by... Oh, that's Cal Hockley. Wrong one. Anyway, okay.

COLIN HILDING: No, that was Josiah Flynn Tabarty Flannerton.

BEN WATERWORTH: Former great Olympian from the town. Fan messages from Australia, from the official Australian Olympic app. I haven't seen ours posted yet. I'm so devastated. But let's go along here. From Cathy Walker in New South Wales to Catherine Skinner, our latest gold medallist. Wow! Congratulations. That's all it says. There you go. Nick Bradley to Anna Mears. Just watched opening ceremony, followed up by off-the-record interview with Bruce McEvaney. Hello, Bruce. You're my favourite all-time athlete. You impresses me. No, sorry, hang on. You impresses on me with how you epitomizes the best qualities in what we hope from all Olympians and the fact you consistently deliver on the world's biggest stage. You are one of the best ever athletes in the world. Great.

COLIN HILDING: Ben, you could admit it. You messed up because you were trying to read it because you wrote it in cursive, weren't you?

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes. So many bunny references. So many going on there. To Annabel Smith from Dug, New South Wales. Great job, girls. Bronze medal. Keep it up. Go Aussie diving team. Aussie, Aussie, oi, oi, oi. Great. It's all the one saying, I hope you don't get hurt. That's just wrong.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Where was the third Aussie in there?

BEN WATERWORTH: Exactly. Aussie, Aussie, oi, oi, oi. That doesn't work.

JARROD LOOBEEK: I'm a little bit disgusted by that.

BEN WATERWORTH: Here's one from Mrs. Porte. How about Tasmania? Where's my son? That's the one there.

COLIN HILDING: Is there something snapping thing going on here?

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, hang on. Here's one. Oh, hang on. This is dangerous. Somebody is trying to steal my wife away from Journey Jean Betty Young in New South Wales to Brit Elmsley. Good job yesterday in your relay with Bronte Kate Emma, and you keep up the good work, followed by four question marks.

COLIN HILDING: Hold on. I just have to say how I read that. I heard, where's my son? And I'm thinking Mel Gibson in Ransom. And they're like, oh, here's another one. He said, where is my wife or something like that? And I'm like, is everybody in Australia getting kidnapped over these Olympics?

BEN WATERWORTH: I'll put a hit out on anybody who talks to my wife.

COLIN HILDING: Give me back my wife.

BEN WATERWORTH: I know where you are. I know what you do. I will find you. He's from Bailey, Victoria to Patty Mills. Hi, you are a great player. I would like to be there and watch you and support you while you play. So would all of Rios. You actually got a fan. Jack from Victoria to Matty Deliver Dover. Hi, my name is Jack. Or you can call me J-Mac. Hope you win games for us from J-Mac. Good job, J-Mac. Matty Deliver. He's got to call you J-Mac. I hope he wins games for us too. Oh, hang on. He's another one stealing my wife away.

COLIN HILDING: I need to know, which athlete was that to?

BEN WATERWORTH: Matty Deliver Dover, a basketballer, plays for the...

COLIN HILDING: All right. So when Australia wins in basketball, I want Matty Deliver To stand up and say, I did this for you, J-Mac.

BEN WATERWORTH: J-Mac, it's for you.

COLIN HILDING: This is all for you, J-Mac.

BEN WATERWORTH: Allie M from New South Wales, to my future Mrs. Waterworth, Brittany Helmsley. Richie, Brittany, you are my idol, and I was jumping up and down when you and the girls won gold, followed by a lot of question marks. I don't know what's wrong with the Australian Olympic app. There's lots of question marks. Can't wait to see you swim again. Lots of hugs from all of us. Oh, isn't that sweet? Get off my wife. And finally, Lucas from Victoria, to Elizabeth Cambage, who I think she's a Rugby Sevens player. Hi, Elizabeth. Be the best you can be in Rio. Obviously, nowhere else, just Rio. Go Aussie from your new friend, Lucas, ten years old. Oh, look at that. She's made a friend. She's going to win a medal. This is for you, Lucas. So, yes, who are we going to give a message out today? Are we going to stalk old Matt Horton or shall we? Give us a sport. What sport are we at today, Jared?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I kind of think those judo players need some love. I mean, they don't know what they're doing. Their sport doesn't make sense.

BEN WATERWORTH: Let's go. So, the judo, well, this is actually quite a large contingent of Australian judo people. Jake?

COLIN HILDING: What was that move that we call the Canadian move?

BEN WATERWORTH: The Uchi Mata.

COLIN HILDING: The Uchi Mata, yeah. Can you just write the message? Whoever it is, could you just write, lay down the Uchi Mata. Love, J-Mac.

BEN WATERWORTH: Okay. Well, okay. Before we do that, who are we going to send it to? Jake Benstead, Ian Coughlin, Miranda Giambai, Katherine Heckler, Josh Katz, Nathan Katz, or Chloe Rayner? Who's our favourite? It's a tough choice. They're all stars.

COLIN HILDING: Which of the Katz's is the younger brother?

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, Nathan is the one who lost yesterday, so maybe he needs a bit of love. Although Josh, Josh. Yeah. We'll go to Nathan. He looks very serious in his sender fan. He's saying, all right, so your name, J-Mac. Yeah. This is great. Again, just like seriously, stop listening to us. Listen to Royal NHG. They're probably like doing some commentary right now, which is funny. Is there a Canadian Olympic Podcast, Colin? Or is it just a podcast of people, a former Olympian listening to a podcast?

COLIN HILDING: Yeah. We have old podcasters listening to Off The Podium. That's what the Canadian competition is.

BEN WATERWORTH: Donovan Bailey. Oh, that was great. Lay Down and Uchi... Apparently, autocorrect makes that locky. I don't even know what Uchi...

JARROD LOOBEEK: That's probably a judo term as well.

BEN WATERWORTH: Lay Down and Uchi Mata from your new friend, J-Mac.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah.

BEN WATERWORTH: Done. Oh, do we want to sign up for exclusive e-newsletters? No, we don't, AOC. Thank you very much. Done. Nathan Katz has already been eliminated, but he will get that and be prepared for Tokyo. So, thank you for that. All right. Well, looking ahead to day three. It's already started. We're recording this at day three. There's 14 gold medals up for grabs today. The epic gold medal of Rugby Sevens, which Australia will win. We're going to lose this so badly to Canada. You watch now. Swimming, we mentioned before, a couple of Aussies in there. Now, I just discovered Mitch Larkin and Emily Seabomb are actually a couple, apparently. They're both in their respective 100-metre backstroke finals. I'm nicknaming them the Backstroke Bonkers. So, go the Backstroke Bonkers in their respective finals. Now, we're going to cut a lot of these in the heats of the 203, Bronte Barrett and Emma McKeon there. Sam Stoser is up again today, up against the great Japanese Masaki Doi. You know a lot about Masaki there, do you, Jared?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Not a whole lot. Sam's lost to her before, but she's lost to just about everybody. Yeah. You never know what Sam you're going to get, so let's hope that she can hit the ball on the strings.

BEN WATERWORTH: Our Olympic record holder of the double bagel, John Muleman, plays Kay Niccicori. Thank you, Ben. And Miss Balshard is up today. Is she not, Colin? I think she'll lose, I mean, win today.

COLIN HILDING: She's had one singles and one doubles win, so she's due to lose at some point, I figure.

BEN WATERWORTH: Speaking of losing, Caroline Wozniacki is playing today as well, so she'll be up. The Hockey Roos play the USA. I think that's happening right now as we record this match. I couldn't tell you the score because they're probably against the rights for the Olympics. I don't know. One of our great medal hopes for Australia, Jess Fox, in the Canoe Slalom. She won silver in London. She's future wife material. She's a very nice looking girl. That sounds so creepy. Why have I turned into some massive creep? Going back to the Norwegian Virgins, Jared. There's a blast from the past on the Oz Network. Our Water Polo team loses to Hungary today. The Boomers play Serbia. And sailing starts today. Aren't we all excited for that? And only 10 days to Modern Pentathlon. What's going on for Canada today, Colin? Have we already talked about it? I can't remember what we talked about in this episode.

COLIN HILDING: I think it's just rugby, really. I'm pretty sure there's some more diving going on today. I don't know what event it is. I think rowing again, CBC, they usually list about three or four different Olympics or sports in the description. And two days in a row, all they've shown is just rowing in the morning. And right now, I'm looking at a replay of our gymnastics flop from last night. So I don't know how good the weather is right now in Rio.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, it's just looking here too at the schedule here, Colin. We're only about four days away from trampolining beginning as well.

COLIN HILDING: Yes! Rosie McLennan!

BEN WATERWORTH: Getting closer. Wow, you might win another silver. Before we sign off, as always, our Facebook page is Off The Podium Podcast, and we're on YouTube as well. But special shout out to iTunes and just our downloads in general. We cracked over 600 downloads of episode three yesterday, clearly because we're in HG, didn't have an episode yesterday. So thanks to everyone who downloaded this. That managed to make us 101 on the amateur sports chart on iTunes. Thank you. And we've now reached three iTunes comments. I mean, I think that's enough that I can actually read them on air.

COLIN HILDING: Go for it.

BEN WATERWORTH: Why not? This episode hasn't gone long enough. I think we already read the first one. After taking a hiatus from Survivor, I was in no new episodes of Eurovision, which I'm still sad about. It's nice to hear Ben back on the airways. I think that was from Catherine. Thanks, Catherine. We got one here. Ben, Colin and Jared have a lot of fun watching the Olympics, particularly Jared and the bat horse. No serious commentary, just the fun that you would have chatting with friends on the couch, watching all the events. Well, that's all you need to think of us as. That's from Colloina. That's a good made up name there, Jared.

COLIN HILDING: Thanks for bringing that up. We're sorry, Ben Butcher's everybody's name.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, because when I type them in on iTunes, they don't, I can't spell them very well. Well, just think of us like we're on the couch watching the Olympics with you, and maybe we'll come over to your house and watch the Olympics with you because we don't have anything better to do. And one here from John John 81. Gold, gold, gold, so good. Love hearing their take on Rio. Lighthearted and funny. Deserves a gold for their efforts. The Thomas Barck comedy is gold, and the Ooh I Want To Take It is awesome. Bring on more. Oh, look at that. Aren't we good at making up names on our iTunes profiles? Thank you, everybody.

JARROD LOOBEEK: But really we'd like a silver, I suppose, instead of a gold.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, exactly.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, that's right. The gold clearly wasn't aimed at this side of the podcast.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, exactly, exactly. Give it to Canada. Jared, thank you again for joining us. We'll be back tomorrow, but as always, appreciate your insight, and I wish you best of luck today with finding Richie Porte.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yep, it's getting more and more difficult each day, but you know, that's on the list of things to do. Bat Horse is probably going to be in the cross-country, so I'm going to try and scope out his real identity.

BEN WATERWORTH: And Colin, as always, appreciate your time, and I look forward to seeing the progress of the Flynn-Floin Organising Committee of the Olympic Games, or for Focog, which will be set up in the next 24 hours.

COLIN HILDING: Let's do it in the memory of Josiah Flynn-Taviti Thwannaton. It's the legacy he wanted to leave us.

BEN WATERWORTH: Thank you for everybody tuning in. I think this episode has definitely made us all PFFs, Podcast Friends Forever. And I'm actually just going to go ahead on Tinder and try and hook up with the Bombs Medal as well. So thanks to everybody for tuning in, and from all of us here at Off The Podium, have a good night, and let's look forward to plenty more action on day three.