Steven Bradbury Interview
It's time for another massive massive interview today as we sit down with the legendary and iconic Australian short track speed skater Steven Bradbury to talk about his incredible career and Olympic experiences! We find out from Steve about his incredible journey in the sport and the challenges he faced to remain motivated throughout some of the hard times before committing to one last Olympic appearance in Salt Lake City. We also find out a fun story from THAT gold medal winning race that he is glad didn't make it to TV and just whether or not he was then tempted to push on for another 4 years after that. Added to this we find out just who he thinks is the greatest short track speed skater of all time and more about his epic beer that is taking Australia by storm. It's a chat you definitely won't want to miss, so get to listening and get skating through some more epic entertainment!
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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BEN WATERWORTH: Coming to you today for another interview, a massive interview for you once again. Steven Bradbury, a man who, of course, is entrenched in folklore in Olympic history, in Australian Olympic history, Australia's first ever Winter Olympic gold medallist, Salt Lake City, 2002 in the 1000-metre short track speed skating. We all know what happened. We all remember it. We've talked about it a lot on the show. And obviously, we have got a lot to talk to Steve about here. He's going to talk about his beer. He's a beer maker now, and talking a little bit about what got him involved in that, as well as a bit about the pre-Salt Lake days. So winning a bronze medal back in 1994 in Lillehammer, of course, a member of that history-making relay team that won Australia's first ever winter Olympic medal in Lillehammer. And how things were going basically between Lillehammer and Salt Lake, and sort of the career lows, the motivation that led him to going on for one more Olympics in Salt Lake. And a fun little story about getting off the ice in Salt Lake after winning that gold medal, and just exactly what some of the people in the crowd were saying to him and his reaction towards some of them. So a great chat here with an icon, a legend, a man you all know and love, the one, the only Mr. Steven Bradbury.
BEN WATERWORTH: Our next guest on Off The Podium is a man who really needs a little introduction, but I'll give him a bit of an introduction. Four-time Olympian, two-time Olympic medallist, three-time world championship medallist, member of the Australian Hall of Fame and the Queensland Hall of Fame, the sporting hall of fame that is. Also 10th on Dancing With The Stars, 20th on Australian Survivor, and fourth at the Australian Grand Prix Celebrity Challenge in 2005. And one of the founders of one of the best beers that are currently going around in Australia right now. It is an honour to welcome to Off The Podium, the one, the only, Steven Bradbury. Steve, first of all, pleasure to have you here on the show today.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah, thanks for having me, Ben. And you might have had one too many of my last me and Steany Beers when you did those stats there, because I wasn't 20th on Survivor. I was 19th. Don't get that wrong, 19th!
BEN WATERWORTH: Geez, and I'm meant to be a survivor expert as well. Well, I think I just blew our chance to get you over on my Survivor podcast in a few years. Shit, all right. Well, those beers are that good, Steve, that it just kind of blows with the head. So that kind of works. I want to start with a beer actually, because this is, I tried it. You gave me some of your beers recently. We sort of worked together obviously with Channel 7. I got the Rona, and as part of being able to recover, I was able to drink some of your beers. So thanks very much for that. But how did this come about? The idea to get involved in starting a beer, was this something that you'd always wanted to get involved in?
STEVEN BRADBURY: In a roundabout way, it was always meant to happen. And it's not the usual path for an Olympian to go into booze. I don't know any other Olympian who's ever done that. But for me, I've always done things, I suppose a little bit unorthodox. Even my skating technique wasn't the prettiest to watch, but it was effective. And I'm with the beer. I started the business with a couple of mates, their names are Steven and Damian Prosser. And their dad used to play for the Wallabies back in the 70s. His name was Roy Prosser. He was big, front row forward. After his Wallaby career, he became one of the head honchos at Carlton United Breweries. And him and I became mates through Olympic circles and sporting circles. And then I became mates with his sons as well. We all toyed with the idea of one day maybe doing our own beer together. And we never did it. Big Roy passed away about 12 years ago now. And his sons and I kept that conversation going. And eventually we said, well, if we don't do this, we're gonna die with regrets. We don't want to do that. We want to do it. So we like to think that, whilst we've created what I believe is the best lager ever brewed, I'm a little biased, but there's a little bit of big Roy's memory in every can.
BEN WATERWORTH: Fantastic, fantastic. And the name itself, obviously, was that the easiest part to come up with when it came to putting this together?
STEVEN BRADBURY: It was, that was always gonna be the name, but not easy to dance around the responsible drinking side of our branding, because being the last man standing, if you just look at it and face failure, it says, okay, well, who can drink the most and stay standing up? And that's not what the concept at all is. We've got the hare and the tortoise on the logo. So it's a little bit, take the piss out of myself and the way that I won the gold medal, but it's also around encouraging responsible drinking, because you don't wanna be the hare, go too hard too early and make a pissed idiot of yourself. You've got to perfectly pace yourself and be the tortoise, so you can be the last one standing.
BEN WATERWORTH: Great, great work there. And is it a bit of a process when it comes to putting together a beer and when it comes to tasting recipes and making sure that it's up to the standards of what you three want, and then branding? How long does it take from the, okay, we're gonna do this, to it's on the shelves, people can buy it?
STEVEN BRADBURY: It probably took a year of planning and trial and error, and getting it, well, first was to get the flavour of the beer exactly what we wanted. And then the whole marketing plan was done before we put any cans in cartons or anything like that. But yeah, it's trying to compete in the mainstream beer game, because we're an easy drinking lager, that, you know, borders on a Pilsner has a little bit more malt flavour in the aftertaste. So it's definitely not a craft beer. It's a beer that nine out of 10 beer drinkers can get their head around. And, you know, we're trying to compete on the mainstream beer market against the big brands that everyone's heard of in Australia. You know, your VB, your Carton Draft, your Great Northern, your Forex, these big brands that are all now owned in Japan. No one's money stays in Australia. None of the beers, aside from Cooper's, are Australian-owned anymore. You know, and so we're trying to compete on a volume scale against these guys. And, you know, it's probably the most competitive market imaginable. But, you know, I think we can crack it. And if we can do, if we can make a blip on the radar against these big guys, then Australian-owned, hopefully on the back of COVID, becomes a little bit more important. And, you know, if the big dream ever comes off, I'd like this beer to be the beer for the 2032 Brisbane Olympic Games.
BEN WATERWORTH: That's a good goal. I like that. That really, really works that way. And have you found this, I mean, compared to your skating career, I mean, more challenging, as you're saying, like trying to get into the beer, cracking the beer market, because it's obviously completely different from a sporting career. But I mean, in terms of how you're trying to market it and get a foothold in the competitive beer industry you're talking about.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah, well, you know, obviously you've got to be in hundreds, if not thousands of bottle shops, and you've got to be on tap in as many venues as you can to try and get that volume going for the beer. Lots of people knowing about it. And a bigger part of the whole campaign for a beer is the marketing side of it, which you need a big budget to be able to do. And we're only just creeping into that space now. We've done it. In the first two and a half years on word of mouth, the taste of the beer and telling everyone we know about it and trying to get people's lips around it and drink one, and then tell their mates. But, you know, if you look at what Great Northern's done, which is the number one selling beer in Australia now, in my opinion, not the best quality beer you could ever drink. But marketing campaign is amazing. And 75% of that game is getting your branding in front of people in the galley. I'll give that beer a try because it's very interpretive as to what you consider a good beer and what I consider a good beer could be completely different. And if you drink enough of one beer, even if you consider it bad, you're going to start to like it after a while.
BEN WATERWORTH: It's kind of like this show, Steve. Eventually people listen to it long enough, they start to like it. I mean, it's like as a Tasmanian, obviously, Southern Tasmanian, I'm all for Cascade, but then you've got Bogues up north who just, we think over promote themselves because they're just crap, right? And so, you know, so there is that there. And plus I can imagine that those initial phases of tasting the beers, getting the recipes right. I mean, it must be a pretty cool part of the job. I'm just going to work today to test some beer recipes. Today, I'll see you later on.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's, you know, that's one of the attractions. And, you know, obviously having a beer and watching sport and having a drink with your mates is all part of our branding. But, you know, there's the hard work phase is certainly there now where you got to go and visit bottle shops all the time and stand there and give people free samples every Friday afternoon, which I've done hundreds of times pre COVID and as of my business partners. And, you know, some people get a bit of a shock when they see an Olympic gold medallist standing in their local bottle shop, serving them a free sample of beer going, please buy this, please buy this. But everything starts from the ground floor, you know, and that's what I did in my sporting career. You know, I was a speed skater from Brisbane. Obviously, I didn't have many or any sponsors, and I did it the hard way. And, you know, if we can continue to do those little steps for a long time with the new business, with the beer that I'm involved in now, then, you know, I think that puts us in good stead with a good foundation underneath us to get there slowly but surely. And, you know, who knows what happens at the end of the day. It could be a similar Aussie success story to when I won this thing 20 years ago.
BEN WATERWORTH: There it is. Beautiful, beautiful. You stole that from the museum. You've taken it back. I was at the Hall of Fame Museum a couple of weeks back, and I saw it there. You finally said, no, I want it back now.
STEVEN BRADBURY: That might have been Elisa Campland's one that's in there in the museum. My skin suit's in there.
BEN WATERWORTH: It is.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah. Oh, I do love it. Actually, it's funny. We had Ciaran Hansen on a couple of years back, and he got the bronze out from Lillehammer. So it's kind of, we like it when it's sort of, it's there, ready to go, and kind of out of shock. It's a big thing. We always like to find out what happens with the medal. But you obviously mentioning sort of getting started in the sport, everything along those lines. A lot of talk recently has been the 20 year anniversary, of course, of the gold in Salt Lake, but 30 year anniversary, Steve, of your first Olympic appearance back in Albaville, which I think, do you find that with all the hoopla and all the excitement that came with the gold in Salt Lake, that a lot of the pre-Salt Lake story gets lost? Because I've read your autobiography. It's one of the best autobiographies I've ever read, and all the story and everything in the lead up to Salt Lake and your career. I mean, part of the world championship winning team, of course, in 1991 in the relay. Ultimately part of the Lillahama bronze in 1994 as well. But do you feel that so much of that story does kind of all that success you had pre-Salt Lake gets lost in your story because of how you won the gold in Salt Lake?
STEVEN BRADBURY: No, I think I disagree. I think the rest of my story would have been lost regardless of whether I'd won the gold anyway. And you mentioned that you had Kieren Hansen on the show and I spoke to him after. He told me about it. He's my best mate. He said, I had this this bloke who wanted me to do a podcast. I haven't had someone ask me to do a podcast, talk about my sporting career since about six months after I retired. And unfortunately, that's the nature of the beast. People don't remember silver and bronze medals. I mean, you're a big sports nut. Rewind the clock to Tokyo six months ago. Can you tell me a bronze medallist from our Olympic team, but not the boomers?
BEN WATERWORTH: I can tell you a couple. Kelsey Lee Barber, our javelin thrower, our decathlete. I've forgotten his name. So there's your point there. But there's definitely a few.
STEVEN BRADBURY: You've done a lot better than most because you're a sports nut. You know a lot about...
BEN WATERWORTH: Too much, too much, Steve.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Pretty much every sport, but my point is that the bronze medal for Kieren and myself and the other guys in the team was amazing to win Australia's first winter Olympic medal. But a couple of weeks later, the country had forgotten us.
BEN WATERWORTH: It's fascinating that. So fascinating because I was seven to... I don't know how that makes you feel, Steve, but I remember it vividly when that happened. And I wanted to sort of know what that reaction was like when you got back home. But I mean, as you're saying, a bit forgotten about. But was there a bit of, here you are off the plane, Australia's first Winter Olympic medallist and kind of a bit of attention there that helped boost anything within, say, you guys as a team and the sport? Or was, as you were saying, it was just kind of quickly forgotten about and was just back to status quo before the Olympics?
STEVEN BRADBURY: No, it was... It was a short lived bit of media attention for the sport. You know, we'd gone in as the favourites in the real life or Albertville and didn't work out. That's in Lillehammer, getting Australia's first winner medal. You know, we're on the front page of most of the newspapers in Australia the next day. And, you know, all the television cameras and radio shows wanted to have us on for a week or so. So, you know, for us guys that had been, I suppose, training and competing in complete anonymity for most of our lives, to have people want to know a little bit about our story was gratifying. And, you know, for me, after that accolades of the bronze medal faded, I mean, I had another eight years in anonymity before, before Salt Lake City and the gold medal that everybody remembers. And, you know, from there, the whole world wanted to know my story at the end of something that had started 20 years earlier. So, as you mentioned, Duffy read my book. There's a fair bit of background in there.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, so much. And some of the things like you've said, too, in other interviews about how you didn't feel you skated at your best until Salt Lake. I mean, as I said, you had three Olympics before 2002. Obviously, Nagano was in between Lilahama and Salt Lake. Going into that, considered a medal chance. I mean, what sort of do you remember from, say, Nagano and kind of what happened there in terms of not skating your best and things like that? Kind of what sort of do you feel was about those Olympics that maybe wasn't up to your peak where you wanted to be?
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah, I mean, there's a list of things I could go through. In Lilahama, I was one of the big favourites in the 1000, and I got knocked over in the first round of the competition. The guy who knocked me down in the heats got disqualified, but that didn't help me. You know, Nagano, I still had realistic chances to win medals there in the 1000, and I had glacial fever in the lead up. You know, I had a knee injury in the lead up, blah, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, it was a lot of trials and tribulations along that journey. And, you know, there's a lot of athletes that have trained incredibly hard for a long time in their sport and didn't get to achieve their goals. And for me, that's how it was up until, you know, three Olympic campaigns and not having skated my best was driving me crazy. And in Salt Lake, at my fourth Olympics, my best wasn't what it used to be. You know, there was six to eight guys in the world that even on my best day, I couldn't beat anymore. You know, and four of those guys were on the ice in the final against me in Salt Lake City. And, you know, I had a bit of experience and judgement under my belt by that point. So having skated my best in the quarterfinals, that was where I achieved my goals in that Olympics. And, you know, from there on in, I had a hell of a lot of luck.
BEN WATERWORTH: And was that that motivation that spurred you on, say, after every single one of those Olympics, it was getting you to Salt Lake, because as you were saying, you hadn't felt you would achieve your best. And that's what helped you go to a fourth Olympics.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah, it was definitely unfinished business. And probably the defining moment came down to, well, was 18 months before I got the gold medal. I had a crashing training out at Acacia Ridge. I went head first into the barrier and I broke my neck. Picture of me there with the halo brace screwed into my skull. And I had two and a half months in that thing. And I had that whole time to think about what I'd already done in my sporting career and what I still had ahead. And thinking about big picture during those two and a half months, it said to me, well, if you finish up now, and the doctor who screwed that into my head, he told me I'd never skate again. I just went to another doctor. Because in my head, I had no choice. I only had 16 months of hard work to go after that thing was off my head. 16 months out of 14 years is only a little bit on the end. So in my head, if I didn't do it, have one last crack at the Olympics, then I'd regret it for the rest of my life. So I didn't have a choice. The only thing that I'd become elite or an expert at briefly here or there, I wasn't exceptional in anything else. And that's the case with most athletes. You kind of put all your eggs into one basket. And in the quarterfinal in Salt Lake City is where I put those demons to rest. I skated the best that I could as the oldest skater in the entire Olympic field. And that was the moment sitting in the change room where I realised that goal was, for me, that was the highlight of my life.
BEN WATERWORTH: And was part of that to not only recovering from the injury and having that motivation, but was there maybe a lack of pressure on yourself that you felt less of that, say, had in Nagano, Lilahama, that, you know, people looked at you in Lilahama and Nagano was a potential medal favourite. And then maybe in Salt Lake, they weren't necessarily focused on you as much as they were back then because you were sort of more of the twilight of your career as you were, say, four years prior.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah, 100%. I was flying under the radar. You know, being a speed skater from Brisbane, I flew under the radar a lot of the time, even when I was arguably the best in the world. But, you know, coming into Salt Lake, the top guys in the world weren't looking at me or studying my form and race tactics because they had other skaters that they were more concerned about. And, you know, as I mentioned, it was about getting to that fourth Olympics for myself, to skate my best in front of the whole world because there's not too many spectators at Ice World or at Keisha Ridge at 5 a.m. on a Tuesday, you know? And so for me, getting to finish my skating career with a, you know, 16,500 people in the stadiums and on such an Olympic high was the carrot to train that last 16 months after I'd broken my neck. Because prior to that, there was a lot of doubts in my head as to whether I still wanted it enough, because I knew that medals weren't going to be realistic in Salt Lake City. And until I'd broken my neck, I wasn't sure that going to a fourth Olympics and just doing my best was enough for me. There was questions as to whether I just should stop now. You know, why should I go to a fourth Olympics? I don't need another Olympic team tracksuit. I've got plenty of them. But, you know, in the end, it came down to, well, firstly, being a bit of a stubborn prick, but secondly, having to finish what I started. And, you know, there's probably a little bit of that, that first time Olympians in Tokyo or Beijing didn't get to see their sport with a heaving, packed stadium, like I got to do in Salt Lake City. And whilst on the television, the no crowd factor didn't play into the spectacle of it that much, there's definitely some adrenaline and buzz from within the stadium that you get when you walk into the Olympic stadium that's packed to the rafters with the crowd that some of those athletes didn't get to experience, which, you know, that's a big part of the buzz when you're there and you're in it on that particular night.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah. And I mean, as you said, 16,000, I'm sure 15,998 of them were all going for a Polo owner, of course, that night. We spoke to a Polo a couple of weeks before Beijing. And what I loved about sort of when we brought up the race is that he's obviously still to this day, he does motivational speaking and all that kind of things. And if he's got Australians in his events, basically, he's always got at least one who comes up, like, oh, do you remember that race back? The Australian guy won it. And he's like, yeah, no, I probably remember it more than you do. I was a guy who got second. I mean, do you still sort of have a chat with a Polo every now and then and kind of, you know, reminisce? Or, you know, was it sort of the short tracks, you know, fraternity, a bit close like that, where you do sort of stay in touch with people like that over the years?
STEVEN BRADBURY: Depends who it is and where they're from. The Chinese and the Korean guys, not so much for that. They don't speak much English anyway, so it makes it tricky. It's, yeah, you know, I've caught up with a Polo here or there over the years. And, you know, it's been 20 years since I retired. And well, Ken, since he retired now as well. But yeah, last time I hit him up was, we've got the Bradbury movie, which has been stalled over the last two years through COVID, but, you know, the script has been written and we're potentially going to get a Polo to play himself.
BEN WATERWORTH: Nice. Well, he's done acting before, of course. We talked to him about his little role in a movie about giant Tasmanian devils that took over Tasmania. We had a few questions about that. Oh, really?
STEVEN BRADBURY: I haven't seen that movie.
BEN WATERWORTH: It's, I think it's just called Tasmanian Devil. I'll send you a link. It's interesting. But yeah, I'm not too sure about the factualities of Tasmanian devils there, but hey, look, you know, now that you know he's got acting ability, then you're sold.
STEVEN BRADBURY: I saw him on an episode of Hawaii Five-0, I think it was, one of the new versions. And he hosted some big-grade game show in the US for a while as well where his game show host skills probably could have used a little bit of work, but he wasn't too bad.
BEN WATERWORTH: Maybe you could get the Dancing With The Stars, he won Dancing With The Stars.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah, whereas I finished last.
BEN WATERWORTH: Kind of poignant there, I think. Obviously with The Golden Salt, the story has been told, so many interesting facts about it. Is there anything about that race or anything around Salt Lake that maybe you feel doesn't get told enough, or is there a particular story around the gold that hasn't really been shared a lot that maybe you want to talk about today?
STEVEN BRADBURY: Well, you mentioned the 16,000 people in the stadium, and when I crossed the line, they were all booing. And if you replay the race, you can kind of hear it in the background through the effects mic. Most of the 16,000 people were booing because Apollo Ono was in the pile up, and he was pumped up in the American media to get the gold, and they weren't booing at me. But it was a strange feeling to cross the finish line at the Olympics and have the entire place booing at you. And for me, I celebrated for a couple of seconds in my head, and then I was waiting for the official judge's decision. And yeah, there was an American guy in the crowd who was right at the front row, and I was over at the edge of the barrier, and he said, Bradbury, you should stop smiling. You don't deserve shit. And I just glared at him and gave him the finger. Fortunately, they didn't catch that on the television. But yeah, it was an interesting few minutes there while the judges were huddled together to make their official decision.
BEN WATERWORTH: That's crazy. I mean, that would have been one of those things that in today's world probably would have made it, and you would have been viral, like a meme or something like that, and tweeted with the finger, like, got gold, fuck you all. It would have just gone that way probably. That would have been interesting. I went to Salt Lake and I saw a jazz game a few years ago, and like basketball, great, absolutely love basketball, but I was more like, hey, this is Bradbury Arena here. This is where history was made. I'm looking at the rafters of all, you know, the championship banners and the Hall of Fame, and I'm like, where's the Bradbury one? We want the Bradbury thing hung from the rafters. I think you need to contact them. You need to contact them basically in Salt Lake, the arena there, to be like, hey, where's my owner in this stadium?
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah, well, the Jumbotron, they call it there, which is the huge big screen that sits above the basketball court. Well, the ice rink when I was there. But yeah, when the gold medal came up on it, huge with my name next to it, when the official result came through from the announcement of the result from the judges, and for me, that was the moment where I knew that it was real, and I'd already gotten off the ice by that point. The other skaters had gotten off, and I wasn't going to do a victory lap if they announced me the winner, which I thought they were going to do. And when it happened, I just sort of looked up, and there was a couple of seconds there where some of the people in the crowd cheered. Not many. Most of them were still booing because Ono didn't win. But I couldn't hear it. There was a couple of seconds there where it all just went silent in my head, and it felt like that they were my few seconds.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, perfect. And of course, hearing that national anthem first time ever at a Winter Olympics, fantastic. We just saw in Beijing, Charles Hamlin was 37 when he won a gold medal. What supposedly, and he's last Olympics, he said it now for the last couple, you could have easily gone on for two more, gone to Vancouver there. Steve, was there any temptation for you to go on post-Salt Lake for a couple more?
STEVEN BRADBURY: Not a chance. Probably the thing that's given athletes so much more longevity, or there's more than one thing, is recovery techniques, you know, things like ice baths, massage, injury prevention, video analysis, and a big one that's come into, well, most sports nowadays is money. And a lot of athletes continue on, and they haven't really crippled their body as badly as what athletes did in my day because of all the recovery techniques after training, and all those things cost money as well. So I think they're the reasons why athletes do or can go on a lot longer than what they used to.
BEN WATERWORTH: Do you think Charles has got one more on him? Do you believe him when he says this is his last Olympics? He's been saying that since, like, Sochi, hasn't he?
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah. There was a guy that I used to race against, Mark Gagnon, and he was four-time world champion in chore track. And for me, he was probably... I used to see him as the greatest of all time in the sport, but I sent Charles Hamlin a message the other day, and I said, well, I think it's you now, mate. Because to get a gold medal at his age in a sport where the lactic acid tolerance that you have to maintain isn't for somebody in their 30s at all, let alone 37. And for him to finish with another gold medal in the relay is, in my head, probably sees him as the greatest of all time now.
BEN WATERWORTH: Incredible. And then he gets tweeted by Lewis Hamilton. So, I mean, you know, kind of keeps going well for Charles. It keeps popping up there. Now, Steve, before we let you go, one thing I want to quickly bring up. I brought this up to you when we were in Melbourne. I just want to see if you maybe had time to think about it. We had Kieren Perkins on the show last year, and I brought up this idea. You mentioned Brisbane 2032, that Kieren comes in to light the torch, and then all of a sudden he falls over, and you come in and light the cauldron for 2032. Now, obviously, not a Winter Olympics because it's a Summer Olympics, although technically it's in winter because it will be in there. Are you on board with this? Can we get the backing here, Steve, that we can push this? You and Kieren team up, we can push the AOC, the Cathy moment, lighting the cauldron, because I think this would be just the best way to light the cauldron in ten years' time in Brisbane. Come on.
STEVEN BRADBURY: I'm pretty sure Kieren Perkins wouldn't have agreed with you on that, would he?
BEN WATERWORTH: He had a laugh of it. He said, he's like, no, no, I can have a chat with Steve. He seemed on board. Maybe it's just the pressure of being on air, and then as soon as we go off, he's like, Ben, that's a shit idea. Don't ever talk to me again. But hey, I've got it on the record, so I'll take it.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Yeah, I hope there's a chance that Kieren might throw his hat in the ring to be the head of the organising committee for Brisbane 2032. I imagine he'd be one of the front-runners for that spot. Obviously, he's got a lot of business experience under his belt, and his athletic experience is pretty obvious. We're in for a pretty exciting decade ahead here in Brisbane in the lead-up to 2032, so it's pretty cool having the Olympics come to your town.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, I mean, again, technically a winter Olympics, Steve, so we could technically get short-tracked maybe in the summer program. Just possibly, just talk to some people. It's sort of possible there. Before we let you go, plug the beer. Where can people find out more information on it? Plug yourself on social media. Anything that you want to sort of get people to get drawn to so they can stay up to date with what you got going on?
STEVEN BRADBURY: There's a website for the beer there, lmsbrewing.com, you know, .com dot au. Whatever you want to put in there. And we've got a beer locator on our website there that will show you where you can get it. We're in every day Murphy's between Cairns and Coffs Harbour. Beautiful. So if you live in any of those spots, go and grab a six pack for the last man standing. It should be 20 bucks or just under 20 bucks, about 18. And we're on tap in a lot of places too, but have a look at lmsbrewing.com dot au for where you can get it. And yeah, mainly my skill set over the last 15 years or so, Ben, is doing corporate motivation and entertainment with a bit of stand up comedy thrown in. And I've been a bit quiet on that front over the last two years, because when COVID hit, it just went poof. So yeah, if anyone wants to check me out and book me for their event, I'm at stevenbradbury.com dot au.
BEN WATERWORTH: Perfect.
STEVEN BRADBURY: And you can have a squeeze at that. And yeah, be nice for things to get back to normal again real soon.
BEN WATERWORTH: Got some good jokes probably planned for the two years worth there that you've just been working on, ready to go, firing out in all cylinders.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Well, I don't do stand up comedy, but I'm pretty good at standing up.
BEN WATERWORTH: That is the best way to end the interview. Steve, it has been a pleasure to chat with you, mate. Thank you so much. And yeah, we look forward to seeing the beard dominate the world and everything else in between.
STEVEN BRADBURY: Thanks, Ben.
BEN WATERWORTH: And a massive, massive thanks there to Steve for his time. A lot of fun. And I've had his beer. I have, he's had his beer and thoroughly enjoyed it. So if you are in Australia and want to get your hands on his beer, then definitely look out for it, Last Man Standing. And as he said, lmsbrewing.com or.com.au. And you can also get some cool little merchandise on there. You can get a cool little tortoise logo. You can buy a t-shirt. There is some stubby holders there. There's some hoodies. There's even face masks you can get out there. So make sure you check that out. And if you want to look at the video interview of this, YouTube, of course, find us on there, Off The Podium. You can see Steve show off his gold medal and the beer. So check that out. And by all means, you can be more entertained by staring at Steven, not necessarily at my face. Got so many more great interviews lined up in the coming weeks, of course. We've had some great ones in the past, that if you've missed out on any of those, make sure you do subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss out on any of those interviews. Of course, Sally Pearson last week, great chat, Mac Horton prior to that one. And we've got some more winter athletes coming up as well off the back of Beijing. And just some more great interviews that will keep you entertained here off the podium, because we know we like to entertain you, and that's what we want to do. And that's what we are doing. We hope we're doing, possibly, maybe. And we'll get Jarrod and Colin back on, of course, to do some other episode types coming up soon. Got some rankings that we've got planned. Obviously, the Commonwealth Games coming up in a couple of months. We'll do a couple of episodes on those. And then later this year, we're gonna, for the very first time, do an episode on the World Cup, which is very exciting. So get excited for all of that, too. Off the Podium on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Subscribe to us on all the good podcast servers, and never miss an episode wherever you are on the planet Earth. And we appreciate your support by listening to the show. We thank you so much, and we hope that you will stay tuned. Because you are, you love the show, and we love you. Steven, thank you so much for your time. As always, special shout out to Jason Momoa. And until we next speak again, put a sock in it mountain and go left.
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