Rio 2016 Day 6 Review

It's Penny Oleksiak day on Off The Podium as we once again do an episode without a Canadian but somehow talk up Canada more than Australia! We also manage to work out just why Australia is so down on ourselves despite winning medals and wish we were more like Fiji when it came to being humble. Jarrod also puts more athletes on the blacklist for returning home while Ben discovers golf is kind of boring to watch and that rowing has some very confusing categories.

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

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BEN WATERWORTH: Hello everybody, and welcome once again to Off The Podium, episode 8 of the Rio 2016 Olympic Podcast Review Show here for day 6 of the Rio 2016 Olympics. What a day it has been. Excitement galore, there were medals, there were losses, there was golf. We're so excited. We're going to talk about it for the next hour or so. On this now officially endorsed and advertised podcast on the ABC. We'll get to that potentially. My name is Ben. It's excited to be here. So excited that I could go and play a game of golf with this man on the episode with me right now, Mr. Jarrod Loobeek. Jarrod, welcome back to Off The Podium.

JARROD LOOBEEK: It's great to be back. Day 6 was a great day. I'm glad we've started some new sports, maybe not golf, but it was great to see the badminton starting.

BEN WATERWORTH: So many excitement filled moments today, particularly in the badminton and golf. But one of them, actually, I'm being serious about that actually was fun to watch. But it was a very interesting day today, it has to be said. And sadly, you're only hearing Australians again. And this is like the worst day I think we've had in order that we've only got Australians, because Colin not able to make it again today. And it was a golden day for Canada. Literally, they've won their first gold medal of these Olympic Games. And he was excited, he was tweeting us in an event that we apparently had so much guaranteed to win, that I think we had already reserved a spot in the Olympic Museum for the Campbell Sisters. And since then, the Australian media has gone on to town on them, basically ripping them a new one because they didn't get a medal. But Canada's got a gold, we didn't. Where's Colin? Jarrod, this isn't good enough.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I mean, I went out for a bushwalk today because this was a sure thing. We had it. I was like, I don't need to be there. I can watch the replay, that's in the bag. And then, lo and behold, we don't win it. And then, even more of a shock, Canada does. I mean, yesterday we were talking about Penny being the flag bearer for the closing ceremony. I think, I mean, that's done and dusted now, surely.

BEN WATERWORTH: She's the opening ceremony flag bearer for Tokyo. That's a lock already. I can tell you that right now as well. I think she's guaranteed to be flag bearer for Canada for the next 15, 20 years. I mean, she's only 16. You know, look at Michael Phelps. So, you know, this is a lock, Jarrod. Just write it down right now. Let's go to a Wikipedia page and change it.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Flag bearer for Flimflin in 2028.

BEN WATERWORTH: She's lighting the cauldron at Flimflin in 2028.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Exactly.

BEN WATERWORTH: We've locked that in. We will start with Canada, actually. I mean, they only won one medal, but it was the main medal that they needed to win. One gold. Penny Oleksiak in the 100-metre freestyle. An event that Australia had locked in to win, and we didn't even get a medal. She dead heated with American Simone Manuel, and it was a shock. I mean, the facial reactions from both of them were amazing, even when they actually showed Penny, because they were so focused on Simone, the shocked expression on her face, and poor old Basil Zemplas. I don't know if you went back and watched the race, Jarrod. He didn't even realise that it was a dead heat. I'm looking at the little graphics popping up on the pools. I've seen number one next to Penny Oleksiak. I've seen, I think, an Olympic record next to Simone Manuel. I'm going, hang on a minute, who's won? Oh, wait, it's a dead heat. And apparently, it is the first time in Olympic history that there's been a dead heat occurred with people from different nations. So it's the first ever time they've had to play two national anthems for a gold medal. But I mean, what a way to get their first gold. Penny Oleksiak, 16 years old, not only is it Canada's first gold, her first gold, it's her fourth medal of the Olympics. She is the first Canadian to win four medals in one summer Olympics. I mean, Enthorpe does that when he sleeps, but this is a big deal for Canada.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I mean, there's parties going on all over Canada at the moment, surely. Considering we didn't win this, we'll find some way to claim Penny as Australian. I'm sure down the line she's visited Australia or she saw a koala on Facebook or something. We'll be clutching at straws, but we'll claim it somehow because we thought we had this medal in the bag.

BEN WATERWORTH: No, she's Australian because she's been talked about on an Australian Olympics podcast by two Australians.

JARROD LOOBEEK: There you go, that's the link.

BEN WATERWORTH: Absolutely. Outside of this, in terms of just winning these medals, I've been reading a little bit about little Penny. She apparently is the very first Olympian born after January 1st, 2000 to win an individual Olympic medal. So she's the first person born in the 2000s to be an individual Olympic gold medallist. That's a record that she can always have and no one will ever take that away from her.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, that's impressive. If she needed another record, I mean, she's got enough, but yeah. I mean, that's a good one because, yeah, as you said, that can't be taken away from her.

BEN WATERWORTH: I'm really hoping Colin's listening to this because the records just keep coming from everywhere. I mean, this is, again, we're usually talking about how great Australia is, but she's also the second most medals by a Canadian at a single Olympics, both winter and summer. After Cindy Klassen, the long track speed skater, she claimed a large amount of five medals I'm here seeing at the 2006 Torino Winter Olympics. Penny grabs a medal in the four by one medley relay, or she might be back, I don't know how many more events she's got to go, clearly my research has done that well. But amazing, amazing to see this. Four medals by a Canadian in one Olympics. And the great thing is, we'll talk about the medal ceremony, the fact that they had to play two national anthems. Again, I don't know if you managed to see it. It was one of the most awkward medal ceremonies I've ever seen because you've got Simone, she's so excited, she's won a gold medal. Penny, I think she just looked shocked. I don't think she knew what she was doing up there because she just didn't know. Simone's gone up to Penny on the gold medal dais and given her a hug. Penny's hugged her back. And then there's the Swedish swimmer, Solström in third, who's kind of just gone up like, oh, can I have a hug too? And she's like jumped up to the gold medal spot just to give them a hug. It was quite funny, but you know, America and Canada together in harmony, winning a gold medal, I mean, good on them, fantastic. Look, you know, I tweeted out, I honestly, I think at the end of the race, kind of didn't care that we didn't win a medal in it because I was so happy that Canada won a gold medal. I don't know if maybe this podcast has put you on the Canadian bandwagon a little bit, Jarrod.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Oh, absolutely. I mean, if we're not winning golds, it better be Canada. I mean, the dead heat with America, I mean, that kind of soured it a little bit, but for Canada to get a gold, if it's not Australia, then you've got to support the Canadians.

BEN WATERWORTH: Absolutely. And Sarah Solstrom, the Swede, I think I got her name pronounced right for the first time in this entire podcast. She got a bronze, so she's gotten a gold, a silver, and a bronze at these Olympics, so she's gotten the whole set. But for Australia, we didn't go medallist on day six, and this is one thing I want to talk about in this episode. It's Australian media and our reactions to, I guess, our success or non-success. I just watched the news again before recording this episode. And the lead of the Olympics today was not the fact that we came home with two silvers and a bronze. It was the Campbell sisters lost the 100 metres. Oh, and by the way, we also won three medals. So it was more of a big news story that Kate and Bronte Campbell didn't win a medal than the fact that we got two silvers and a bronze. And our two silvers, we're catching up on the silvers, Jarrod. I think you've started something here. We got a silver in the Men's Quad Sculls in the rowing, Karsten Forsling, Alexander Belongoff, Cameron Geldstone and James McCray. Great result from them. They lost to the Germans, and I'm happy to lose a medal to the Germans. I like Germany, so that's good. And we got a silver in the swimming in the 200 backstroke, one half of the backstroke bonkers, Mitch Larkin. He got himself a silver medal, and he was pretty happy with that, so that was good. And a bronze medal to our girl Jess Fox. In the women's slalom K1, adding to her silver from London. And I want to talk about obviously the media reactions to our medals, and also I think the athlete reactions to their medals, because I definitely feel that Jess Fox so humble in defeat. I mean, she was in the lead, and she would have won the silver, had it not been for a last minute penalty that they went to review, found out she touched, I think it was gate 22, coming down the course. And had they not given her that two second penalty, she would have been a silver medallist again. Sadly, by getting the bronze, the worrying sign is that we actually gave New Zealand another silver medal. But we'll talk about them today because they had a bit of success, sadly. But, you know, we're happy with our silver and bronzes. I think, you know, stuff the Campbell sisters. They choked. I want to celebrate our rowing silver, swimming silver and our canoeing bronze. Come on.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it's a shame that Jessica Fox and the rowers and Mitch Larkin kind of got overlooked because of the Campbell sisters. I think it's understandable in a way, just because there was so much hype around them. I mean, they're on every second ad, which kind of got frustrating after a while. I mean, congratulations. You train together every day. That makes sense, your sisters. But yeah, I think we do need to kind of get behind the athletes who are winning silver and bronze. I mean, it's no easy feat. And I'm just glad that, yeah, they were so humble in defeat that they were happy with their results. It's the Olympics, and I think it's kind of a sure thing, even though we make a big deal of that and pretend like it is. But these are the best athletes in the world, so anything could happen on the day. And to get on the podium, whatever the position, is a big achievement.

BEN WATERWORTH: Exactly right. And I definitely want to touch on some of the reactions from the athletes. But just, I mean, the media is just... We're here, I guess, recording this. Technically, we're part of the media at one point, and blah, blah, blah. But it's just... It's even the commentators. I mean, I like Basil. I like Gian. They seem like good people. For the most part, they're good commentators. But you could even tell in the commentary afterwards. You know, we're seeing a historic moment. We're seeing a dead heat in swimming between, you know, two athletes from different countries. You know, we've got a 16-year-old Canadian. I mean, Simone's 18. Like, you know, this is two swimmers that are, what, 34 in combined age. That's only three years older than Michael Phelps, shall we point out. I mean, that's pretty amazing there. And it's a historic fact, the fact that we've got a dead heat. I think they mentioned it's only the third time in Olympic history that we've had a dead heat in swimming for a gold medal. So here it is, this historic moment, and they've got to heavily focus on the fact that the Campbell sisters choked. I think at the end of the day, if we don't, as you kind of mentioned, we don't hype it up as much. Like, they are literally on every single ad. Like, they're still showing them that Swiss multivitamins, I'm Kate and Bronte Campbell. Look at us, we're so good. Obviously, the Swiss multivitamins don't work because you don't win medals. Whatever Penny and Simone are taking, advertise them. But, you know, it's just so fascinating the way that they do it. Even, I was watching the news story on Jess Fox winning the bronze, and as I said, like, she, you know, cruel little moment there where she lost out on the silver. But after the race, she's so, I mean, she's so smiley, she's so happy. She's come out and she said, well, I've just won my second Olympic medal. This is fantastic. She's like, I've got a bronze to add to my silver. She's like, well, you know what colour I have to win in Tokyo now to get the complete set. So optimistic, so happy. What can we do with the media, Jarrod? What do we need to do? Just stop over-hyping athletes. Pretend this is the Winter Olympics and be happy the fact that we're just there.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think that's probably the way to go. You can just tell how much of an effect it has on the athletes too, which annoys me as well. To have that much pressure placed on you, you're already placing that pressure on yourself just as an individual athlete, and then representing your country, there's another layer of pressure. But then the pressure that comes from the media as well, it's understandable why these people kind of choke because there's so much attention on them. And obviously, throughout the entire race, they're probably thinking, well, everybody thinks I'm going to win gold, I've got to do that. So yeah, it's just about lowering those expectations a little bit, I think.

BEN WATERWORTH: It was amazing, actually. I was watching a clip on YouTube last night of a review bit of the Sydney Olympics, and I had this interview with Ian Thorpe, where he was obviously talking about the amount of pressure that was heaped on to him going into those games. And he said, well, look, you can look at it two ways. If you take it negatively, it's going to affect you, and you're going to choke. But if you take that pressure as positive, then you've got a whole country behind you, and that's only going to spur you on faster. So maybe the Campbell sisters need to have a bit of a chat with Ian Thorpe about this or something, I don't know.

JARROD LOOBEEK: That could be an idea.

BEN WATERWORTH: But one thing, the reactions of the athletes when it comes to certain things, you've got, you know, varying ones. I mean, I was watching the interview afterwards, they're talking to Kate Campbell, and I've written this down, she said, I've always said I don't need a gold medal to have self-worth. And that's being put to the test at the moment. So I think that's her very humble way of saying, I'm bloody shitted off right now. And then her next quote, which I thought was a bit strange, she said, she was talking to her mum, hope this doesn't change the way you feel about me. Please still love me back. Just imagine her mum up in the stands. You dad, you didn't win the gold. Get out.

JARROD LOOBEEK: You let Bronte beat you. What are you thinking?

BEN WATERWORTH: You were the golden child, not Bronte. She wasn't even meant to be in swimming. I had to laugh though, actually at the medal ceremony too. The fact that they had two Aussies, I had James Tompkins-Ead and already presented medals to our rollers early in the day. I forget the name of the other Australian. I don't know if they do this deliberately. They're like, we'll get some Australians to present medals to this one because clearly they're going to win a medal in this. It's like awkward. There's no Australians on the podium, guys. Do they need to go quickly go find a Canadian in the building? Like, oh, you with the Canadian flag in the crowd, come and present a medal to your swimmer.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, get some Winter Olympic athlete out there who's won gold to present it.

BEN WATERWORTH: Wayne Gretzky flying in. I think it's interesting, though, with the reactions. Like, I mean, as I said with Jess, like, her reactions, I thought it was great. Cam McAvoy, obviously we talked a little bit about him yesterday. You know, he, I guess, didn't live up to expectations in 100 metres. I mean, it didn't matter, we still had a gold medal in that. He didn't make the 50 metres final, but they interviewed him after that. Poolside reporter, you know, oh, Cam, you must be disappointed. You know, obviously you didn't make the final. He just turned around and said, he's like, what's to be disappointed about? I'm in the Olympics, I'm in multiple events, you know, I'm happy that I'm even here. That's the sort of reaction you want. He's speaking the truth, he's in the Olympics, it's great. On the other side of that, Emily Seabombe, who has really not had a very good meet, she did not make the final of the 200 metres backstroke, even though she's a reigning world champion. After the race, she would rather be in New Zealand than being interviewed right now, because she's like the grumpiest person, and she's just literally gone, oh, I've had a bad meet, this was expected. And she just like walks off. So, like, I mean, I get you're disappointed, you're a competitive beast, but again, I'll take the Cam McEvoy approach over the Emily Seabombe approach.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think it depends in part how many Olympics they've been to, and obviously what their personal goals and expectations were coming into it. And I think also Australia having such depth in swimming, I mean, there's extra pressure there. Knowing that that's where most of our gold is going to come from, which is why probably in other sports, it's a little bit less... There's just more joy, I think, to be there in other sports, because it's not all about winning the gold, it's about competing to the best of your ability, and if you win gold, that's kind of a bonus.

BEN WATERWORTH: This is why sometimes the first week of the Olympics is a bit tedious for Australia, I feel, because it's swimming, swimming, swimming, swimming, and then when we don't do well, it's, oh, review, why did we do bad? Think back to London four years ago and all the Equinox sleeping pills drama and James Magnuson banging on doors in the middle of the night. It was more about, oh, this is why we sucked. I mean, yeah, OK, we only won one gold and a bunch of silks and bronzes, but again, at the end of the day, you look at Canada, they would have easily taken that amount of medals. Happily done that. And we'll have to put up with that, no doubt, for the second week, because I don't know how many athletes in the athletics will have going for us. But sometimes it's good that the swimming comes to a close, as much as we love swimming in Australia. And obviously, I guess, too, when we start off so well, two gold and one the first night, I thought, this is going to be the best thing ever. And generally, if you're a follower of the Olympics and have been for quite some time, we're not America, we're not China, we don't win three gold medals every day. We might win two in one day, but for the most part, we might go a couple of days without a gold. So, I mean, I personally, as an Olympics fan, don't know how you feel, Jarrod, like, yeah, you're a bit disappointed, but again, we still won some medals today.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think that's the main thing. And it's not even about Australia winning medals, it's just about watching exciting events. Like, obviously, I'd rather an Australian win, but if it's a good race, it's close. I mean, we've got that dead heat. I mean, what more do you want in a race really? I, for one, I'm just kind of ready for the swimming to be over to move on to something else, because I think then kind of this attitude will move away. There's probably not as much pressure on our other athletes, and then we can just sort of give them the space that they need to just go out there and perform to the best of their ability.

BEN WATERWORTH: We'll talk about that soon, I feel, in terms of just watching and all this sort of stuff when it comes to Fiji winning the rugby, and when we talked about that last night, but, like, we'll get to that soon. That was incredible. Speaking of exciting events, Jarrod, Aussie results for you today. Let's start with the badminton. Now, we take a bit of credit for one half of our men's doubles team. So one, Sarah Singie. Now, we sent him a fan message. Was he the first or second one we sent one out to? I think he might have been the first, wasn't he?

JARROD LOOBEEK: The very first, yeah.

BEN WATERWORTH: He was the very first person on Off The Podium we sent a fan message to. We told him to go and hit that shuttlecock. You hit it well, so on. You do so well. You've messaged our group or tweeted us out, and, like, he's on TV right now. And, you know, he's there with his teammate, Matthew Chaw, and they put it up. They were up against the Korean top seeds, and Yongdae Lee and Yongseung Yoo, they lost, but they definitely fought hard against them. And we tweeted out to Sawan during the match, literally probably within five minutes of him losing the match. He favourited my tweet. I had to look at the... I'm, like, flicked on TV. I'm like, aren't you playing right now, Sawan? Like, how are you tweeting? But the match was over, but he's gotten onto his phone. He probably does this, I reckon, after every battle, like, maybe one day somebody will tweet me and wish me luck. And it happened. That fan message spurred them on, Jarrod, on claiming us as helping them do well against the World No.

JARROD LOOBEEK: 1s. Yeah, I think we can definitely take at least six or seven points from that match to our credit. Yeah, it was a good match. I thought it was exciting to watch. It was nice to see a new sport. And as you said, up against the World No. 1s, like, they didn't have it easy. I mean, they were close sets. And it was just exciting to watch, and it was good. This was completely opposite. There wasn't any pressure on them to win, and you could just sit back and watch it and just cheer on the points that they played well.

BEN WATERWORTH: Exactly, exactly. And I like watching badminton. It's always quite exciting. They're not out of it yet. They've still got a couple more opponents to take on in the group stage. They've got a Chinese-Thai pair pairing and a Russian pairing. So hopefully we can just hope that the Russian pairing don't take their pills that morning, and we might be able to beat them. I don't know how good the Chinese-Thai pair are. They could be good, they could be bad. We'll find out. It wasn't just them, though, in action in Badminton. We had our mixed doubles pair of Leanne Chu and Robin Middleton. They sadly lost to Indonesia. And in the women's singles, we had Suan Chen, who was beaten. Now, I'm just doing a bit of Ford announcing right now. This lady is already in my athlete of the day category just because of her name. Her first name is Porn Tip. Porn Tip Buran Aprasaturok of Thailand. So if you want some tips or some porn, go to Porn Tip. Sounds like a website in itself. She beat our Aussie singles, Suan Chen, 21-14, 21-15. So there you go. In the basketball, this was a great result. I don't know if you saw any of this one, the Opals. They were trailing Japan, 71-59, at three-quarter time, bounced back to win 92-86, remain undefeated. Our Aussie Opals doing quite well, Jarrod.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it's a joy to watch them in basketball, and that comeback was great. Credit to Liz Kamberjadash. I think she scored close to 20 points in that final quarter, and it was just impressive to come back and not give up and keep fighting all the way to the end.

BEN WATERWORTH: I believe they've medalled at every single Olympics women's basketball has been in, so keeping that on track, the Opals. Cycling, the track started today, and sadly, our men's sprint team didn't medal. They placed fourth. They lost to the French and finished in fourth. And again, what makes that worse is I think New Zealand got silver in that event, so not good. That's where we should be concentrating on, Jarrod. Who cares about the Campbell sisters? When you lose to New Zealand and France, that deserves negative press.

JARROD LOOBEEK: I mean, cycling was a big talking point after London, and it probably will be where New Zealand and also Great Britain pick up the majority of their medals. So yeah, it should be an area that we're focusing on. Our two biggest rivals, whatever the sport, it could have been table tennis. If Great Britain and New Zealand were good at it, that's what we should be focusing on to prevent them from getting any medals.

BEN WATERWORTH: Exactly, exactly. Now, we did have our team pursuit, both men and women, both qualified, though, through to the medal rounds, particularly our women's team pursuit team, which, of course, I should have really mentioned this, has two Tasmanians on that team, Amy Cure and Melissa Hoskins. They obviously had that crash in training that you mentioned, Jarrod, yesterday, but they bounced back through to the medal rounds. They'll take on the US tomorrow, and if they win that, they go through to the gold medal race. If they lose, obviously, they go off the bronze. And the men's team pursuit, also in medal contention, they also were in third. They will face Denmark for a spot in the gold medal race. And when I think of powerhouse cycling nations, I think of Denmark. So you better look out there. Princess Mary, I think, taught them a lot there, Jarrod. So, yeah, look out for those cycling Danes. Equestrian, your favourite, sadly, team dress artists. This is the Birdo effect. Birdo lets you down. The whole equestrian team just choked. Ninth in the team dressage, Mary Hannah, Sue Hearn, and the pairing of Lindell and Christy Oatley. That's quite a convenient name. Oatley, they feed the horses oats. Did you catch any of the team dressage, or are you still done with Equestrian?

JARROD LOOBEEK: No, still boycotting Equestrian. I might be back round to it by Flynn Flann. I don't think I'm watching in Tokyo, so... It'll be a while till I can watch it again.

BEN WATERWORTH: Screw you, Birdo. You let us down. Golf, well, we're going to talk about this. The Olympic return of golf. What a spectator sport that is. But we shouldn't joke. There's an Australian leading. Marcus Fraser went on what I quote from the AOC website, a birdie blitz and leads after one the first day. Eight under par on 63 has a three stroke lead over the British Open champion of Henrik Stanton and a Canadian, Graham Delete. Control, Alt, Delete? I don't know. Just Delete. So, good. I mean, look, it's boring as bat shit to watch, Jarrod, but there's an Aussie winning. So, yay, go us.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I mean, this is one of those events where you just wish it would finish after one day. I don't know how long golf goes on for. Four days. Okay, so it's not as long as the sailing. I was a little bit concerned that you may be getting 20 rounds of golf before the Olympics were through. That's a positive.

BEN WATERWORTH: I'm just going to call it right now, Jarrod. Marcus will lead for all three days. He will be talked up like all things else on the final day. They will go to his house. They will film his kids. They will talk about how he had a terrible childhood and somehow overcame adversity to be within a shot of winning Olympic gold, and he will choke at the final thing and either win silver or finish fourth. So, yeah.

JARROD LOOBEEK: It will be good because the newspaper is going to have the headline primed either birdie blitz or bogey blitz, depending on how he goes.

BEN WATERWORTH: And if he gets beaten by Graham Deleat, Marcus Fraser deleted from medal contention. So, you're welcome, Harold Sun. Take our headline from us. Hockey, the Hockey Roos, well, they've won a couple in a row now. They beat world number one Argentina 1-0, and with that win, they're through to the quarterfinals. Well done, girls. Judo, sad news here for us, Jarrod. Australia's campaign in Judo is over for another Olympics. Miranda Gembelli sadly lost in the first round of the 78-kilogram division to Brazil's Mara Aguiar. She went out by Ipon in 39 seconds. Wasn't an Uchi Mata, but still Ipon. That hurts. That hurts deeply.

JARROD LOOBEEK: That hurts. 100 points worth of hurt.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yep. That's worse than the Campbell sisters. So in rowing, as I mentioned, we got a silver, but outside of our medal, the men's four are into the finals. I mean, this is one thing with rowing. Maybe we'll talk about this when we get to the sports we watch, but you've got the quads and you've got the four. Now, the last time I learned about things, quads is four. So why do we have a quad and a four? I don't know if you know the answer. Quickly, go ahead.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I didn't quite get that. I was watching it and the quads came on. They're like, we've never won a... I didn't even know if it was a medal or we've never won a gold in this event. And I'm like, hang on. I'm like, what about the awesome foursome? And then I'm like, oh, they're the men's four. I'm like, not the quad. What's the difference here? I think it's just an excuse to have more rowing. I mean, they've already got the rubber chargers. Clearly, they can't get enough of the sport. And it's just really helpful when every second day gets called off to have that many events going on.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yep. I definitely want to talk about rowing, because, yeah, I mean, we... The women's eight sadly missed out on making the finals. And we were in a final in the pair. Spencer Turin and Alexander Lloyd, they finished sixth in an event won by New Zealand. That's not what you want to finish last in a New Zealand winning league. But, yeah, you're mentioning rubber chargers, and they've got B finals. We had competitors in the B finals. Our double skulls of Sally Cahoe and Genevieve Horton were third, so they won a B final bronze. And our men's double skull of Chris Morgan and David Waters won the gold in the B final. So why do we need B finals? This is like in the rugby. They've got to have the playoffs for like fifth and sixth and seventh and eighth. Like, you know, imagine if the World Cup did this. Like, oh, all the quarterfinals, we've still got to play off for like, you know, ninth to sixteenth. Like, do you really give a shit if you lose the quarterfinals? Oh, come on, boys. We're going to back this up. We've got to finish fifth.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me. I mean, imagine if you had this in the sailing. It would never end. But I'd like to think they should get something for winning a B final. I mean, you've won a gold. Maybe it's not the real final, but it's the B final. You should get just the ribbon without the medal on the end.

BEN WATERWORTH: You should get those little statues that they give out of the logos. And still, I want somebody to make a YouTube compilation of athlete reactions to being handed a little Rio statue thing that they get with their medals. Like, it's ridiculous. Oh, goodness. Speaking of the rugby, yes, the men, we finished in eighth because we lost both of our playoff matches. Argentina, now, we were leading this 21-0, and we lost at 26-21. So, there you go, and then we lost to France. Again, 12-10, finished eighth. Now, sailing, here we go. This is where we get excited. I felt a bit mean yesterday, Jarrod, to our sailors. I thought I'd put down a couple of results for us today, particularly because we're actually leading one of the categories. Now, the NACRA 17 category, personally, Jarrod, one of my favourites in sailing, this is a mixed category. So, our team of Jason Waterhouse and Lisa Darman, they had two wins, a fourth and a fifth from four races. They only got another 800 to go. So, they're leading at the halfway point. Go the NACRA 17. Australia getting ready to get tattoos of NACRA 17 on us, aren't we, after that gold medal?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Well, definitely.

BEN WATERWORTH: Absolutely. But a tough day in the office for our 470 women crew of Carrie Smith and Jamie Ryan, absolute superstars of the sport here in Australia. They were on stamps before they had planned gold medals. They finished 11th in their first race, and sadly 18th in their second race. They capsized. Jarrod, I don't know if you saw that one. That was on all the highlights packages, wasn't it?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, that's a sailing ipon, if ever I've heard of one.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, 100 points for the water, the green water. Swimming, yes, well, we know the Campbell sisters choked, 4th and 6th in the 100m free. Taylor McCowen, she was 5th in the 200m breaststroke, and again, they talked her down. She was the fastest qualifier. That automatically should mean she wins a gold. She was still happy she made the finals. 5th, she'd take that. Belinda Hocking was the 5th fastest with a 200m backstroke. And as I mentioned before, reigning world champion Emily Seabomb is out. She's eliminated and still crying about it. And Cam McAvoy, as I said, missed out in the 50m free. I do believe we have a finalist in the 800m freestyle as well, and my research has sadly not taken me to tell you who that is. I can tell you it is Jessica Ashwood. There we go. Quickly, good to have that up on my screen. So she will swim in the 800m freestyle final tomorrow. Tennis, sadly, Jarrod, your sport, Sammy Stoser and John Pears, they're out. They lost to the Indian Four Seeds in the mixed double, Rohan Bopanna and Sonja Mirsa. Did you see any of Sammy and John at all?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Didn't see the Australians play. Yeah, I did watch a couple of Nadal's matches and I mean there was two wins there. I mean, I'm just going to claim that as an Australian win.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I'm going to distance myself from that. Yes, Rafa threw to the quarters in the singles, but he threw to the finals in the doubles. Knocked out the Canadian pairing that we've talked up a little bit, but he's going to play Brazilian hero Tomas Bellucci in the quarters. Do you know anything about Mr. Thomas Bellucci at all, Jarrod?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I've heard his name before. That's about as far as my knowledge goes.

BEN WATERWORTH: So we can claim he's an Australian. I've just quickly pulled him up. His highest ranking was number 21 in the world in 2010, and he's finished at the fourth round of the French Open in 2010. So that's his claim to fame. Del Potro is still in it. Nishikori, Monfils, Andy Murray is still in it. So there you go. The women's singles at the moment, too. They're down to the semis. Petra Kavita was there. Monica Puig. She's Puerto Rican, and I sort of didn't know if Puerto Rico would ever won an Olympic medal before. They actually have won a few, more so than I thought. And Madison Keys will play Angelique Kerber. So I mean, that's a pretty decent final four there in the women's. Who's your tip in the women's tennis, Jarrod?

JARROD LOOBEEK: It would be hard to go past Kerber, I think. Australian Open champion, obviously, and she made the final of Wimbledon, so she's been in form this year. So if she strings everything together, she should be right.

BEN WATERWORTH: As I mentioned, Rafa and Mark Lopez threw to the final. Sadly, our man Jack Sock and his American counterpart, Steve Johnson, they lost to the Romanian pairing. So it will be a Romania-Spain gold medal match in the men's doubles and a USA-Canada bronze medal match. And in the women's doubles, I'm thrilled to see Martina Hingis. She's still going strong. I've had the pleasure of interviewing her. It was a huge pleasure to interview Martina. I've always been a big fan of hers. But she, with her teammate Tamiya Baksinski, am I saying that correctly? They're up against a Czech pairing. And then in the other semi, you got a Czech pairing and a Russian pairing. So there you go. But we should have really talked about the Tennessee now. Other results section, whatever. I've jumped ahead. What else? We've only got water polo to cover anyway. The women lost, 8-7. There you go. In Canada results, well, they won a gold medal. I don't really think we need to focus on anything else. We mentioned one of their golfers is in third. He's deleting his way through there. Other results, we just talked about the tennis. Michael Phelps, only his lazy 22nd gold medal. His first, the first swimmer in history to win the same event four times in a row. The 200-metre individual medley. Amazing effort there. That now officially puts him ahead of Ethiopia in the gold medal count on the all-time medals tally. On 22 gold, he's now only one behind South Africa and Brazil. So, the Brazilians have got to get their game up in the home Olympics, because they're getting beaten by Michael Phelps.

JARROD LOOBEEK: They will be quaking in their boots. They would be. Is he in the medley relay?

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, he is. And he's also got the 100, it would be the 100 butterfly to go. So he's still got a chance of two more gold. So he could scoot clear of Brazil and South Africa. So look out, you guys. Now, we've got a good news and a bad news story here for other results I want to focus on. Let's go to the bad news first. New Zealand. They actually had a decent day today, Jarrod. Not only did they pick up two silver medals, they won a blooming gold medal in the rowing. Of course, when Canada finally wins a gold and thinks, yeah, we can go ahead of them on the medal tally, New Zealand come out and do well. Now, the coxless Ben, not cockless, I'm sure they've got penises, Hamish Bond and Eric Murray, who I think have won everything in the last 20 years, the back-to-back gold medallists, which I don't know if New Zealand have ever experienced. Oh, what's this? You can win more than one gold medal? Multiple Olympics? So they took out the gold, and they, yeah, a couple of silver medals. So they got the men's team sprint. They lost to Britain in the final, but they still walked away with the silver. And as I said before in the canoe, with Jess Fox's penalty, she promoted Luca Jones up into silver in the canoe slalom. So what's going on here? New Zealand, we're talking about Canada having a national holiday tomorrow. We'll talk about Fiji having a national year holiday in a minute. But New Zealand, they don't know. They've won three medals in a day. I think they just exploded.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, they must have no idea what's going on. I mean, pretty hollow to get a medal off a penalty, but I'm sure they'll take it. They always, New Zealand always seems to sort of come good a little bit further, and it takes them a while to get going. They don't realise the Olympics are on, and then finally they keep into gear once the rowing gets down to the finals and the velodrome starts.

BEN WATERWORTH: Don't you just love the fact that in order for them to get a silver medal, an Australian has to get a penalty? It's like, oh, look, we'll be a little bit generous, New Zealand, like, look, Jess is young, she can come back and win a gold in a couple of years again, whereas, you know, this Luca Jones, who knows? Have a solver, New Zealand. We'll get to the medal in a second. But yes, Fiji, this is the feel-good story of today, definitely, not only is it their first gold medal, it's their first ever medal in the history of the Olympics. We talked about this yesterday. Now, the Prime Minister of Fiji was at the event. He flew there to watch this event. That's a big deal. And they showed on the news just the celebrations going around the streets of Suva and all of the tiny island nation of Fiji. And of course, typical Australian media had to then find an Australian connection. They found an interview with Jarrod Hayne saying, yes, I'm pretty happy that they won the gold medal. Like, oh, this is the team that Jarrod Hayne should have been on. But, you know, I mean, it was never in doubt. They absolutely belted the living bejesus out of Great Britain in the final. I think it was about, like, 470,000 to two. So, yeah, Fiji, Jarrod, they've won a medal and they've won a gold medal.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, this was definitely my highlight of the day. They were just so excited to win. It's their first medal. Gold, even better. And rugby sevens is a sport that I wasn't really interested in going to the Olympics, but this is probably my favourite sport that's kind of exceeded my expectations so far in Rio.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, I would pretty much agree with you there because, you know, as I said, I'm not the biggest rugby fan, but, you know, it's very entertaining to watch. I enjoyed it. And yeah, just the way that we talk about humble athletes and that, I mean, after the event, the players were just weeping on the sidelines before the game was over. They all got into that little circle and sang a little Fijian song. Then on the medal ceremony, I think it was Princess Anne was presenting their medals, and every single one of them got down on their knees to accept the medals and were so humbled at getting a medal from, you know, Princess. It's just incredible. That's just what you love about the Olympics, when these tiny little nations can come through and win a medal. I mean, you know, it's a brand new sport. They are the best in the world. They were outrageous favourites. They came through. And I mean, like, you know, I would love to be a journalist in Fiji right now, because I can imagine that, you know, the Suva Times tomorrow is probably about three times as thick as it always is. And it'll probably be like that for the next, like, month.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, Fiji will be taking a leaf out of New Zealand's book when it comes to the flag bearers at the closing ceremony. It's going to be the entire team, I can just tell you now.

BEN WATERWORTH: Exactly, exactly. So congratulations to Fiji. That's amazing. So good result. But the other medal results, just going over them. So in the archery, we had the women's individual decided today, Chang Hyo Jin of South Korea. I believe they've won every single gold medal now in the archery, if I'm not mistaken so far, and the men's to happen tomorrow. Canoeing, as I mentioned, Jess Fox. Bronze in the women's, but that was won by Mia Lian Shurao of Spain. And the men's slalom, C2, was won by Ladislav Skanta and Peter Skanta of Slovakia. I think with that canoeing, you get two in a boat. You know how you got the eights in the rowing? I'd like to see the canoe slalom eight. I think that would be a fun sport to watch. I don't know how that would work, but I'd love to see them try to spin around and do those reverse gates with eight people in the boat.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, even if it's... I don't know what you call those canoe type things, but the ones that are connected sort of across the middle, and you have people on either side of the course, and they're linked across the middle, that would be great to see.

BEN WATERWORTH: That's a good call. I like that one. Cycling, as I mentioned, the New Zealanders got silver, but Great Britain won the men's team sprint. Fencing, what a boil over. The Romanians won the women's team epa over China. Wasn't calling that one, Jarrod. That's a shock.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, that's a bigger shock. Then the Campbell sisters losing.

BEN WATERWORTH: Absolutely, absolutely. Gymnastics, well, one of the queens of the Olympics, Simone Biles. She's done it again in the women's artistic all around. Golden silver double there for America. Ali Raisman won the silver, and Russia got the bronze. Judo, well, we obviously know the disappointment we've suffered in Australia with that, but gold to the Czech Republic, and the men's 100 kilogram, Lucas Kroplak, and the women's 78 kilo, Kayla Harrison from the US. Didn't know Americans could do judo. Good on them. Rowing, yeah, cox pair in New Zealand, the double skulls. So this is a thing as well. You've got the quads and the four, you've got the doubles and the pairs. Can we do that in tennis? Oh, it's men's doubles and the men's pairs. You know. Anyway, so Croatia got the double skulls. Germany won the quadruple skulls. The lightweight coxas four, because there's a difference, Switzerland won that. I didn't even know these nations knew anything about rowing. I mean, is there water in Switzerland? There's a landlocked, aren't they? Poland won the double skulls and the women's, and the women's quadruple skulls was double for Germany. So they won the women's and the men's quadruple skulls. Well done to the Germans. Rugby Sevens, as we said, Fiji got that one. Shooting, it was a golden day for Germany. Barbara Englader, thank you Ben, won the 50 metre rifle three positions. It's my favourite one, better than the two positions, women's 50 metre rifle. Swimming, well we know in the women's 100 metre free, Simone Manuel, and that would be a very long Olympics if you had the 100, the 150, the 200, the 250. Simone Manuel, Penny Oleksiak, dead heated for gold, and that one. Phelps, as we said, the 200 IM. The 200 backstroke, Ryan Murphy, not the guy who created Glee, as we mentioned the other day, the actual swimmer. He won that one. And the table tennis, no surprise there. Mei Long, always gonna win the men's singles in China. Beat a fellow Chinese compatriot, Zeng Zhaiq, and Japan won the bronze in that one. So the medal tally, if I can get to that one right now. Australia has dropped to fourth, well we will think fourth yesterday, but we're back there again as well, hanging on by two silver. We've won the same amount of gold as South Korea and Hungary, but with one more silver. And we're being breezed down by the Brits, the Russians and the Germans, because well actually not the Germans, but the Brits and the Russians have won more silver than us, Jarrod. So if either of them win a gold tomorrow, we will drop back a place. But the US comfortably on top, 16 gold, 12 silver, 10 bronze. China, having a bit of a slow game, have only won the 11 gold, 8 silver and 11 bronze. Japan in third, where fourth? South Korea fifth. Canada, what a day for them. They've leaped up into the top 20. In 20th, was a gold, a silver, five bronze, but sadly, still behind New Zealand, who are in 17th position, with one gold and four silver, bruh! It's a great result for them. And Fiji, with their one gold, 31st place, and they are comfortably equal with Argentina, the independent Olympic athletes, Kosovo, and of course that Romanian gold in the fencing. So there you go. I don't really have much news. The green pool, well, we went over that yesterday, but there was a positive doping test. China's Chinese swimmer Chen Jingyi failed a doping test. So all these Sun Yang supporters, Jarrod, how do you think their defence is going for the Chinese swim team right now?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Probably not well. I mean, that's not going to look good. You've got a track record, and someone else in your team gets busted. Maybe some of the Mack Horton hate will phase out over these next couple of days.

BEN WATERWORTH: We're not in danger of being splashed anytime soon, perhaps. So thank you, China, for failing. Is that the first failed drug test of the Olympics, I think, so far?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Sure, sounds good.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yep, we'll go with that, except for Russia, but we won't touch that one. What did you watch today, Jarrod? What were some of the ones that you particularly paid close attention to?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Not too much that we haven't mentioned already. The badminton was the focus for most of the day. I turned to the gulf for a second, and then turned back off it. I watched plenty of the rugby, because they have so many rounds and all those placings, and then the kayaking.

BEN WATERWORTH: Indeed. Well, I think they're still playing for about 87th place in the rugby right now. So, it's going as long as Thomas Bach's speech and the opening ceremony. So, go figure. Yeah, I watched swimming, some beach volleyball, badminton, golf and rowing. Now, with the rowing, we're obviously questioning the quads and the fours and the pairs and the doubles and the lightweights and the heavyweights and all this sort of stuff. It's not boxing. You don't need weight divisions, surely. But it's an interesting sport to watch, particularly when they're announcing the teams at the beginning. It's not like swimming when they come out almost like wrestler style with their video screen and all this sort of stuff. And, you know, athletics, you know, in lane four, representing Jamaica, Usain Bolt, yay! Whereas, like, they do this so slow and tedious that they just get there in order. They're like, France, Denmark, Greece, rowers ready, beep! And then they just go. And it's a pretty confusing sport to watch in a way, the way they do the camera angles, because I've always noticed this is rowing. You'll be watching it like, oh, Australia is so far in front, because it's on an angle. And then they straighten up, and you realise we're dead last. I don't know if there's a way they can fix that on TV.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Really, I think they do that on purpose. Each country has their own camera that shoots the race from a favorable angle, and they switch Channel 7 exclusively using the Aussie camera that puts us in gold medal position just to add more pressure to them. So when they lose, we can say, where did the other team come from? We had this race. It was in the bag.

BEN WATERWORTH: I would love to have the job of the people who have to lean forward and hold on to the boats before they start. I don't know if you've noticed those people who have that job, but what happens if one of them gets bribed a little bit? If I went up to the ones holding the New Zealand pair who went on to win the gold, here's an extra $1,000 if you accidentally hold them for five seconds before they go. Do you think there's constant bribery in the sport of rowing?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I'm sure they've had full criminal history checks, the people doing this out there. They've probably chased up their ancestry, see if they have any links. They'd be under constant scrutiny, followed by armed guard, I imagine, after the event and heading to it. Because you have to watch out if they hold somebody back, but then also some of them, I'm sure, would want to give the rowboat a bit of a push at the start.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, that's true. I didn't think about that. You're absolutely right. Like, you know, is there an appeal by the South Africans who lost to the New Zealanders? Hang on a minute. Their person, their boat holderer, pushed them. You know, like, that's not good enough. Like, does the Aussie team, the water boatmen, do we, like, put in an appeal for coming last? You know, because the only reason we got last is because they held us too long and New Zealand got pushed. I'm calling for an appeal, Jarrod. I think you're on to something.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think we do need to go back over that footage. New Zealand winning a gold medal does seem a bit iffy. Yes.

BEN WATERWORTH: Hang on a minute. They're winning gold. That's not right. The drugs. Absolutely. They got pushed. Something. The golf, though. I mean, I personally don't know if I have a problem with golf being in the Olympics. I mean, it's a fairly popular sport. It's a big sport. Why not? But when it comes to spectator sport, like, you know, I mean, Happy Gilmore style golf would be alright, I guess. But, you know, I mean, people are lining up for tickets when Rio gets the Olympics. I mean, no one's lined up for tickets because no one's going to the events, but they've built that little grandstand at, like, the whole of the 18th. The people are actually... Oh, I've got my seats to golf today. I mean, you've got to be spending half the day waiting for people, like, just on the 18th, hurry up. Like, you know, you... And by the time somebody gets to the green, you literally see them putt it in, and you get a, oh, yep, slow little clap, and all they do is, like, tip their hat off to the crowd. There's no, like, over-the-top celebrations. There's no cocky Michael Phelps style, like, you know, going, like, come on to the crowd. It's just the tip of the hat. Like, seriously, I mean, why would you pay to go watch golf?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I'm not sure why. I think surely the golf seats are always half the price. There's probably some deal going on there to get the people in. Probably just the athletes' families, really. I couldn't see anybody in their right mind who didn't know somebody and wanting to go and watch.

BEN WATERWORTH: You know, it's not the athletes. They're back in the athletes' village tweeting, oh, I'm watching the golf on TV, lol. But I did see the footage. There was a British golfer who got a hole in one. And if you get to see this footage, there's a guy behind the golfer who just kind of, he looks and goes, oh, I got a hole in one. There's this fan behind him. I think he's actually an Indian supporter because it looked like he had an Indian flag. He goes off, like he is going mental. This guy is like the golf nut of the world. I don't even see people cheering that much at Australian Rules football matches. This guy needed to have his pulse checked. He's about to have a heart attack. That guy is a golf nut. He is the number one fan of golf in the world.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I'm sure we'll be seeing him every day probably. In the same spot, potentially. He could run out onto the course. He's that excited.

BEN WATERWORTH: He's a plant. The reorganisers, you know. The pool is fine. We've got the golf guy there. Look how exciting golf is. Go to the golf. Anyway, athlete of the day, I've already told you mine, Porn Tip Brann Pratsatuk. Definitely going for her. I'm not even going to question that one just because her name is awesome. Jarrod, do you have anyone today?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I'm not a single athlete. I'm just going to say the entire Fijian Rugby Sevens team. That's how you play Rugby Sevens. That's how you win sports. That's how you celebrate.

BEN WATERWORTH: Absolutely. And I guarantee you, had they not won that, had they not won the final, I don't even think Fiji's media would have given a shit. They still won a medal. They still would have reacted the same way. So we can take lessons from Fiji when it comes to their medals. Now, I did actually manage yesterday's show. You talked about the Chinese boxer. I found the footage. Hilarious. Thank you for giving me that tip. I think we need to share that on our social media page. That was great. Now, my wife. Yes, here we go. I was going to have no one today, because I didn't really see one, but I've got to put Jess Fox in there. I feel like, how have I not mentioned her? She's a very attractive lady. She's very humble. She seems fun and energetic. She's just the type of girl, Jarrod, that I feel you could take home for a Sunday night dinner. Why not? You could take her on a bush walk on a Friday.

JARROD LOOBEEK: You could, very well. To add to things, she's got the gold locked up for Tokyo 2020 already. We've talked about putting pressure on the athletes and the media hyping things up. Why are they not on this train already? She's already won, as far as I'm concerned. It's in the bag.

BEN WATERWORTH: Exactly. And if she doesn't, what did you say yesterday? If she doesn't win it, don't come home. Well, she's not coming home. You said that yesterday. She's got to stay out until Tokyo. You're working for the Department of Immigration now. You're Grant Boler on border security. You're basically like, no. No gold in that bag. Stay out of the country until Tokyo.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I'm just looking out for her. Avoid the negative press. Stay away. Train overseas. You don't want the pressure. Maybe compete for who I want to take you. Think about it. You might do better there.

BEN WATERWORTH: Exactly. We don't want to lose it, though. We want to keep her in Australia. But I want to take you. I mean, it's better than going to New Zealand. Alright. Channel 77. Channel 77. Not that quiet. Channel 7. Shit, shit, shit. news.com. Even shitter, shitter, shitter. Nothing a whole lot to add in terms of... I mean, we talked about the swimming commentators being incredibly disappointed. Paying attention to the rowing. I want to get to the rowing commentary in a second. There's one particular thing of note that is hilarious. I've also got one here from the canoe kayak, and Colin, sadly not with us, Colin teased us in our group chat. He says, Ben, Jarrod, I've got the best Canadian commentary fail you will ever hear. This will top it all. This is the best. Now, we actually had... It kind of ties into our news.com.au even shitter, shitter, shitter, because there's actually a couple of stories on news.com.au today relating to commentary fails which actually are from Canada. Now, I'll get to them in a minute. We'll do the Australian ones first. The Canoe Kayak, I don't know who the Canoe Kayak commentator was. They're quite actually a decent commentator. Just a quick one that they're talking down when Jez Fox is going down the course, coming through one of the gates, oh, it's trickier than a Rio taxi ride. They've written that down on a piece of paper ready to go. I mean, have you ever experienced a Rio taxi ride, Jarrod? I don't know.

JARROD LOOBEEK: I have not, but I feel like there's an extended story behind that. I mean, that commentator, he's obviously taken a taxi to the event. It's fresh in his mind, and obviously that was one exciting trip.

BEN WATERWORTH: I will actually say, we're hoping to get on the show in the second week. A former colleague of mine, David Killick, is actually in Rio. He's a journalist, and he's actually working over there. And I was speaking to him on Facebook a little bit recently while he was over there, and he was talking to me about the fact that none of the journalists over there use taxis. They all use Uber. And he'd never used Uber before in his life. He's like, I've never used Uber before. This is all completely new. Everyone swears by it. So, again, maybe the taxi's over there. We will have to ask him this if we get him on, because if a taxi ride is trickier than a canoe slalom course, then I'm worried. But yeah, the rowing. Now, rowing is an interesting sport. We talked a little bit about that, but we had Bretton Speed and triple Olympic gold medallist Drew Gin. Gin, Gin or Gin, one of them. They were commentating. That's what they do. And there was a lovely little exchange in conversation where the rowers were getting their medals. When Australia won their silver. Now, I don't know if you've been a big aficionado of rowing over the years, Jarrod, but of course, formally, they would win the medals and get presented to them still wearing their rowing suits. They wouldn't put on their country's track suits. Obviously, now the protocol has changed. They have to wear their country's track suits. So the conversation between Bretton and Drew, this is how it followed. Bretton turns to Drew and he goes, do you like the track suits? Or should they go back to the rowing suits? And Drew turns around and says, I think they did that because in London and Sydney, there were a few rowers who were a bit excited. To which Bretton turns around and says, isn't that sort of good publicity for the sport? It could go viral. So he's basically saying, to have a bunch of rowers up there on the podium with erections would be great for rowing. Is that going to make you watch rowing more? It probably wouldn't make me want to watch rowing more.

JARROD LOOBEEK: No, I think that could go one of two ways. Obviously, the Estonians didn't get the memo, or they were up on the podium under protest because they chose to don the jacket, but not the pants.

BEN WATERWORTH: It was just the most funniest conversation. This is these two professional commentators. And again, harks back to what we're talking about in terms of the commentary, and do they know what they're talking about. You've got a three-time Olympic gold medallist, you do know what you're talking about. So that was interesting. Now, as I mentioned with the Canadian commentators, now, Colin, if you're listening, I really hope this is the two that you're possibly talking about. So apparently, on CBC, the Canadian network that is broadcasting the Olympics, CBC announcer Byron MacDonald went a little bit too far. Apparently, his microphone was still on, and he didn't think it was on. So he's talking about the 4x200m that actually happened yesterday. So after USA won the gold, Canada obviously got the third. There was a Chinese swimmer, a 14-year-old Chinese swimmer, A. Yan Han swam the second leg of the relay in 1.5779, which was 1.61 seconds slower than the Canadian. So then Byron MacDonald turns around and says, The little 14-year-old from China dropped the ball, baby. Too excited, went out like stink, died like a pig. Thanks for that. And he's come out on Twitter, and actually, no, this is the next day. What happened? But I hope that's the one Colin's talking about. But then apparently, there was another little gaffe on air with Elliott Friedman commentating the 200m individual medley got the American swimmers confused thinking that it was Ryan Lochte swimming in lane 4 instead of Michael Phelps basically going along the call saying, Phelps doesn't look like he has this one in him. Ryan Lochte is going to win a gold medal and basically calling the whole way that Phelps is going to lose because Lochte didn't even win a medal. And then he's come out later on and tweeted, I'm sorry, everyone, I blew it. No excuses. Does he even know who Michael Phelps is? Do the Canadians get people in their events that don't know swimming?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I mean, that's a big gap. He's got to be happy that that other commentary mistakes come out on the same day because that would have completely overshadowed his mistake.

BEN WATERWORTH: The fact that the Canadian commentators are calling people little pigs and not knowing who the greatest Olympian in the history of the Olympics is. I, for one, kind of wish I was watching Canadian Olympic coverage right now because, you know, Usain Bolt's going to be coming on and they're going to be like going, oh, and this guy is winning. Who is that? Usain Bolt.

JARROD LOOBEEK: I think it could be his first Olympics. Never heard of him before.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, this is, he's a star of the future, Usain. Look out for him. So there you go. So yeah, news.com.au, not as big as ones. They've done a lovely article here. Simone Mitchell, I talked about the rowing outfits. They've actually gone and done a rowing article, an article on the outfits of rowers, talking about seeing their penises. So yep, that's classy journalism there. news.com.au, I wanted to learn a little bit about seeing penis sizes in rowing outfits. They've also published an article here. John Ralph is talking about a hockey roux being the queen of social media, even though she is not allowed to use it because the AOC are banning them from using social media, even though we've got badminton players favouriting our tweets, Jarrod. So clearly the badminton players don't go through with the rules there. The one though that I just wanted to quickly note here, this isn't actually a news.com.au fail. I found this to be a fail by The Australian, one of the most respected newspapers in our land, Jarrod, you know, highly regarded. Now Wally Mason, their sports editor, has posted an opinion piece about the Australian athletes. Now the headline says, Australian athletes strong in the pool, but weak on the dais. So basically this article goes on to rip in to Mack Horton and Kyle Chalmers for not being on the podium and not knowing the words to our national anthem and looking bored on the podium. Now, OK, I see maybe where he's coming from a little bit. I mean, I tweeted out today, it's amazing to see these athletes crying up on the podium. There's one of the German rowers was bawling his eyes out when his national anthem was playing. You know, Simone in the 100 metres, she was bawling her eyes out. Like, it's great. I love the emotion. But like, I mean, this is again Australia. Like, what do we do? We've got our Olympic champions. They're gold medallists. They're legends already in our eyes because they're Australian. But we've still got to find a way to rip into them. Oh, they've won a gold, but they don't know our national anthem. Shame on you. Don't come home. Do the Jarrod Lubick style of border security. I mean, really? Like, why do we need to go off of them?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, that's not really fair. First of all, saying that they don't know the words, how do you even know that? That's just making a big assumption. And yeah, I mean, they've won gold. Obviously, it's nice to see them sing along. But I mean, the national anthem means different things to different people. Maybe they just kind of want to soak in the moment. You can't tell what people are feeling based on their facial expressions and how they're acting on the outside. I mean, they're probably nervous being up on the podium anyway. Yeah, it's just a chance to rip into them. They've won gold. Leave them alone. They can do what they want.

BEN WATERWORTH: He's literally said in this article, mumbling in a slightly embarrassed fashion to half the remembered words of the anthem seems to be a trend of recent years. Greatest Australian Olympic champions of the past, even the recent past, such as Ian Thorpe and Cathy Freeman, all knew the words and sang them out. Now, look, Thorpe, yes, he sang the, like, good on Thorpe, but like, I remember when Thorpe would win a gold medal. He showed, like, no emotion. He was just kind of like, oh, yeah, it's a gold medal. Whatever. Who cares? Like, you know, it wasn't like Grant Hackett winning 1500 in Sydney. The guy, I mean, he was doing a Sun Yang. He was splashing everyone. He was so excited. You know, he was going over the top. And, you know, Cathy, when she won the gold in Sydney, she just fell to the ground and just kind of had a bit of a cry. Like, there wasn't over-the-top emotions. It was great. But like, I don't remember Thorpe being exactly that excited, so, I mean, what, in 10 years' time, are we going to be saying, oh, remember when Kyle Chalmers and Mack Horton sang the National Anthem in Pride? Like, anyway, there we go. Wally Mason, you are silly. That was my comeback. Ooh, you're silly. I don't know if you have noted any commentary or anything like that. I kind of skim over you there, Jarrod. You might have notes. I don't know, do you?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I don't have any notes about the commentary today. I thought the Batminton commentary was good, even if it was coming from somebody who did not have an Australian accent, potentially somebody British commentating the Batminton, which I don't know how I feel about that, but she knew what she was talking about and did a good job.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I still think it's better than New Zealanders commentating archery, which I'm still confused about. Like, out of all the people we could get to commentate archery, it's the New Zealanders. Anyway, Canadian athlete of the day. Again, Colin not here, but I'll do his job for him. Now, I found another one. I found the great Canadian of Alina Sharpe, a golfer. Now, sadly, Penny Oleksiak doesn't have one of these. Otherwise, I would obviously have done hers. But, I mean, you're a huge Alina Sharpe fan, aren't you, Jar? I mean, you've got posters of her on your wall.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Oh, exactly. I mean, she was the athlete who I've been following the most going into this games.

BEN WATERWORTH: Absolutely. Well, here we go. My name is Alina Sharpe, and I'm a Canadian. Her favourite Olympic moment is when, in 2014, the women's Canadian hockey team defeated the USA for the gold. Don't you just love how all Canadians' favourite winter moment are winter Olympics?

JARROD LOOBEEK: That's really the only moment they've got to pick from.

BEN WATERWORTH: They would have really stretched this. What's your favourite summer Olympic moment? I mean, I asked this in four years' time. It's going to be Penny Oleksiak, Penny Oleksiak, Penny Oleksiak. But now it's, you know, anything. If I could choose an Olympic host city, oh, God, why am I reading hers out? Auckland, New Zealand! I would love to go there. It's one place that I've never been that's on my bucket list. Oh, Alina, I liked you before. Rip those posters down, Jarrod. Um, spare time. She likes to mountain bike or hike with her dogs. Because all golfers want to do is a bike ride. Um, the weirdest instruction a coach has ever given her, hit golf balls in bare feet. It's a weird feeling. I'll take your word on that. Uh, draw a picture of herself. She's drawn a stick figure, holding a golf club. That's pretty good. My favourite workout is, and she's like crossed out something again, high intensity workouts. The Jacob's Ladder is a killer. I'm sorry. No offence to golfers out there, but why the hell do they even need to work out? Like, I mean, they've got to walk a lot, but... I can't...

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it should be the caddies who are working out, not the golfers, because they're putting in all the hard yards.

BEN WATERWORTH: I was thinking, do the caddies get medals? Because, you know, in the Paralympics, the Winter Paralympics, they have the blind skiing, and the guides will get a medal for like obviously helping their athlete win a medal. Like, that's fair enough. Like, you know, I wonder if the caddies are going to get a gold medal.

JARROD LOOBEEK: This is a good question. And if they don't, they should be outraged.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I reckon they should. I think coaches of teams should get them, and most of the time they don't, but anyway. I can't imagine being in the Olympic Village at the gym. You know, you're working out, you're getting all pumped up, and you're on a treadmill. Oh, hey, how you going? Oh, good. What do you do? Oh, I'm in the 200-metre sprint. What are you? I'm a golfer. Like, it's... I don't really see that happening. If I could have lunch with anybody, who would it be? Martin Strait. Yep, I love her. A legend and inspiration. I can have lunch with her anytime, but I choose Martin because she's so uplifting. So she's choosing someone she can have lunch with.

JARROD LOOBEEK: With her to waste.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yep, exactly. My favourite sandwich. We want to know this about our golfers. Sourdough bread with white grilled chicken, tomato and fresh avocado slices. Oh, that is a lunch of champions for golfers. If you could have a superhero, it would be to fly. Makes going around those 18 holes a little bit easier, I could imagine. The best candy in the world, milk chocolate pretzels. It goes well with a sourdough chicken sandwich. Her Canadian animal. It's a beaver. We've got two beavers in a row. Jarrod, I'm excited. My favourite sports team growing up, the Toronto Maple Leaf. Well, that's got to hurt. They haven't won anything in a long time. Sorry, Colin. Favourite sports movie. It's got to be a golf movie. Caddyshack, of course. If she could live anywhere in the world, it would be in Arizona or also in Colorado. Clearly, she loves her country. She wants to live south of the border. When I was little, I always thought, when I was in a car with mum, I thought cars were made out of the way just for, or move out of the way just for her, like she had a secret powerful car. Well, she probably did.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Could be true.

BEN WATERWORTH: Could be. You don't know that one. My favourite joke, oh god, I hope this is better than yesterday's, I'm still trying to work out what's going on there with the jalapeno nose. I'm not much of a joke teller, but I love listening to others tell jokes. Well, if you're listening to your Canadian athletes tell jokes, I don't know if you're going to like them. The Hungarians would appreciate it. Write this in, live your passion, that's in cursive, and her dream Olympic medal is a picture of Christ the Redeemer with Olympic rings on one side and what looks like a ribbon of some sort on the other side. So, yeah, Marlena, you're actually quite boring, but anyway, sorry. Yeah, exactly. Okay, fan messages. I don't know if you've got the app there, I'm going to pull some up here. If you've got any ready to go, Jarrod, we're just going to stream this out.

JARROD LOOBEEK: You can start.

BEN WATERWORTH: All right, okay, here we go. Let's see. Oh, look, Bronte Campbell's getting messages of inspiration. Obviously, it doesn't work in the media. Hannah Jones, an inspirational performance and an even more inspiring speech. Congratulations. Did she watch the race and listen to her interview? I don't think that's anything. Let's see. Okay, this could win the segment so far this week. This is to Richie Campbell. Now, I'm going to be completely ignorant and not know what sport Richie plays. I'm going to guess water polo because of the way this message turns out. Jason in New South Wales. Fantastic effort so far, guys. The coverage back here has been great, and the support for you was all really something amazing. We've watched all the games, and you still have everything to play for, so keep it up. PS. Please tell Richie to stop pissing in the pool. It really is starting to affect the colour of the water on the telly. Go for it! Now, if the AOC is publishing that, there's no way they didn't publish our other ones during the week. Oh, my goodness me. Um, gee, these are long messages, I have to say. Bronte and Kate getting a lot of love. Again, does anybody watch the Olympics? Maybe they're just so incensed with the medal, the media. Hey, look at this. This is one to my future wife and now the one that we sent one to during the week. Danielle Prince, Jarrod's favourite athlete from the rhythmic gymnastics, Maddie in Victoria says, I do gymnastics. I love your leotard. I want to steal it from you, apparently. I don't know if you've got any now, Jarrod.

JARROD LOOBEEK: I mean, I don't think anything can top that.

BEN WATERWORTH: No, absolutely. Yeah, these are kind of boring now. Gee, Bronte and Kate are getting so much love here. Well, I shouldn't bag that. I mean, good on them. They're obviously a bit down and out. Oh, he's another one to Danielle Prince. We're doing this, Jarrod. Everyone's loving her. Grace from South Australia. Hi, Danielle Prince. I love your gymnastics, and you're really awesome, flexible and super pretty. I think Grace might be trying to steal away my wife there. Jarrod, I'm a bit scared.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, you've definitely got competition here.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes. Okay, here's somebody who doesn't listen to our show because if they listen to our show, they know that Jess Fox isn't allowed back in the country because she didn't win the gold. Neil from Victoria. Jess, great effort in winning bronze medal. You make us all very proud and happy to be Australian. Enjoy the whole Games experience, and you return home a national hero. Yeah, in four years' time when you win gold. Well, yeah. That's true. Final one here. Sam McKenty. I don't sadly don't know who Sam Sports competes in. From Ella, Ella O in Victoria. I know your uncle, Paul McKenty. He is my principal at our ladies' primary school. And he's gonna spur him on to a top performance.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Here goes Ella name dropping to the athletes. Some obscure connection.

BEN WATERWORTH: I saw you on TV. You are my friend. Where are we gonna go to today, Jarrod? We don't have our good bed one from yesterday. Where are we going sporting wise today?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Could it be the golf? They will have nothing better to do. There's plenty of time for them to check their phones when they're walking from one hole to the next. So chances are that they'll see the message.

BEN WATERWORTH: All right, well, of course, with our clubhouse leader of Marcus Fraser, Scott Hen, who I believe I think is in about 50th place, or our female golfers in Minji Lee and Sue Oh. Who are we liking? Who do we want to send one to?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I think Sue Oh could use some support.

BEN WATERWORTH: I was gonna say Marcus Fraser, don't choke.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Did you see what happened to the Campbell sisters? Don't choke.

BEN WATERWORTH: Don't pull a Campbell. No pressure. So Sue Oh, she arrived in Australia at the age of eight from Korea and had never played golf before until she came here. Good job. Fast facts, sport, golf, status, selected. I would hope so. She's just showing up. Here's a bit of a shock. Her Olympic debut. Oh, well, there you go. Sport's only returning for the first time in 120 years. I'd be a bit worried if it said, like, placed 10th in the St. Louis Olympics. All right, Sue, what are we going to say to Sue? Come on, give us something good here, Jarrod. What are we thinking?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Well, I think we need to mention the gym, because she should be working out. I don't know, hit that treadmill hard, hit that golf ball harder.

BEN WATERWORTH: Hey, there you go. Hit that treadmill hard, and that golf ball harder. All right, done. I'm sorry, we're going to send two today. I really do feel we need to send one. To Marcus Fraser, don't pull a gamble. Remember after Salt Lake, it was, you know, do a Bradbury. That was the thing. Like it became a, I think it even made the dictionary at some point, didn't it, to pull a Bradbury. Now it's pull a Campbell. So, I kind of, they might publish this. I mean, if they're publishing, one's talking about pissing in the pool. Don't pull a Campbell. Alright there, Marcus. If he wins, he's read our message. Simple. We know that for a fact. Alright, so we're moving now into day 7. Are we not? Wow, we're basically just on the halfway point. We're just below it. 24 gold medals are up for grabs today, Jarrod. This is the second highest gold medals we will have in the entire Olympics. So, it's going to be a very, very, very busy day when it comes to this day of a Friday in Rio. Big ones, the final day sadly of Judo. Bad news for us there, unfortunately. Last day of archery as well, but exciting for Colin. First day of trampolining, even though it's the men's, not the women's. And the first day of athletics. This is exciting, obviously. We love the athletics, don't we, Jarrod? I mean, you know, the swimming's about to end. We've got to get on the athletics train.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, the athletics is good. It's like the swimming, but not in water. So, that just makes it even better.

BEN WATERWORTH: I mean, it basically epitomizes the Olympics, the athletics, far higher, stronger. So, medals today are to be decided tomorrow. We'll have medals in weight lifting, in tennis, our first medals in tennis today, swimming, of course, shooting. We'll talk about Aussie prospects and that in just a second. More coming in rowing, judo obviously will be in the final day, trampolining, as I said. More fencing medals, equestria medals happening today, yay. Track cycling, of course, three in athletics on the opening day of athletics, and of course, archery. So, the Australia ones, though, today, there's some pretty good performances to look forward to today. The shooting side of things, and the women's skeet. Personally, one of your favourites, Jarrod, I know. Aslan Jones will become the youngest ever shooter for Australia. She's only 16 years old. Is she legally allowed to hold a gun?

JARROD LOOBEEK: That is, that's questionable. She's probably just, she might be using a super soaker that she's borrowed from the Chinese.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, possibly. So she'll compete in that, but actually we have a legitimate medal prospect going on here. Now, this is the thing. All it is on Channel 7 is the Campbell sisters. They live together. They're so good. Swiss multivitamins. The Campbells, the Campbells, the Campbells. Where are the ads for our world number one and current world champion 50 metre air rifle prone shooter in Warren Potent? Have you seen any of them on TV? I haven't.

JARROD LOOBEEK: I haven't. Swiss is, I mean, there's an opening now. I mean, they can't have the Campbells continuing to promote their product. So I think this is the next step for them.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, let's talk up Warren here. Let's put the Mickey on him so we can pull a Campbell today. He won a bronze in Beijing in this event. He won the gold medal at the Glasgow Commonwealth Games in this event as well as a silver medal in Delhi. And also he took a bronze in the 50 metre rifle prone pairs. I didn't even know that was a thing in Delhi. So, you know, no pressure. And he's in a, with a real, pardon the pun, shot of a medal. So, we had no idea who Susie Campbell was a week ago. We had no idea who Kyle Chalmers was a few days ago. Most of Australia has no idea who Warren, I don't even know if Warren Potent knows who he is. But he's going to come out tomorrow and possibly win us the gold. I'm putting the Mickey on him. I'm pulling a Bruce. He will win gold medal for Australia, Jarrod.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, if he doesn't win, I'm not watching any more of the shooting. I will be adding that to the boycott list.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yep.

JARROD LOOBEEK: It's at one spot at the moment. So this is all on you, Warren.

BEN WATERWORTH: You are more of a Kyle Chum than you are of a Campbell's sister or a Berto Warren. I can feel it. You're going to do it. And if you don't do it, you can hang out with Jess Fox and not come home to Off The Podium. So there you go. You've heard it here and Off The Podium. Archery, we have a good shot at the medal today. Shot, get it? Taylor Wirth, one of our bronze medallists from the team the other day, he's in the round of 16. He's the 14th best archer in the world apparently. But he's got a decent chance of making it far in this, and we haven't won an individual archery medal since 2004. So go Taylor. The rowing, well, it's the fours or the quads today. It's the rowing, the men's four. Now, they won silver in London and are the reigning silver medallist in the World Championships, so they've got a chance possibly there. Basketball, boomers play China after their great effort against the US the other day. Athletics, obviously as we said start today, a Dane Bird Smith is in the 20 kilometre, thank you, Ben, walk. That's a sport in itself too, isn't it? Aren't we excited for the walking?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, that's something I'd like to see more distances added to.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, the 100 kilometre walk.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, exactly. 100 metre walk. I mean, that would be a good one to watch.

BEN WATERWORTH: The 30 centimetre one.

JARROD LOOBEEK: No, Greg Peddle, you ran.

BEN WATERWORTH: The one step walk. Who's best at reaction time? Cycling, the women, we mentioned that before, obviously the pursuits, but Annemies is on today with her teammate Stephanie Morton in the women's team sprint. Go Anna, our flag bearer. The world... Boxing. Shelly Watts, one of our medal prospects, Commonwealth Games champion in the 57 to 60 kilogram division. She starts today. And another boxer in Daniel Lewis who is in round two. I don't know what division he's in, but I'm sure it's a good one. Hockey, the Kookaburras come back against Brazil. They win that. They're through to the quarterfinals. Water polo, Australia take on Serbia. And in swimming, as we said before, Belinda Hocking into 200 backstroke, the 800 as well. But the big one that we're keeping an eye out, Mack Horton up against Sun Yang. The 1500 metre heats are on tomorrow there, Jarrod. So a bit of splashing going on. Do you think how Sun Yang gonna react to old Macky boy?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think precautions will have been taken. We'll probably have glass walls in between the lanes because you just can't splash other people. That's not fair.

BEN WATERWORTH: No, especially in swimming. That's unheard of. Golf obviously continues. There's some diving preliminaries, more badminton and table tennis going on too. So I haven't really seen any of the table tennis yet. I'm a bit disappointed. My Channel 7 app still isn't working very well. So I've got to focus on some table tennis, Jarrod.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, well, I mean, clearly we're favourites in the table tennis. I don't know if we've ever won a medal, but I mean, that's a good track record to go on if we've never won a medal. There's absolutely no pressure there. I don't know if we've ever won a medal.

BEN WATERWORTH: There's a trivia fact for you. We'll be like Fiji in anything, like if we want to match in table tennis, national holiday tomorrow, you know?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I mean, personal bests are going to be made in that match, no matter what happens.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, that about wraps us up for another day. As always, Facebook Off The Podium podcast, you can email us, iTunes, YouTube. Special mention, I mentioned at the top of the show in terms of recognising the ABC. I got a phone call this morning from our local ABC studio here from a producer there. They're doing a segment on their afternoon show called Six Degrees of Separation from the Olympics. And my name's still in their database on the Hobart 2020 Olympic bid, to which they've also found out that I'm hosting a podcast clearly, as you can tell, Off The Podium, spreading throughout Hobart. Very well. I didn't even know what's happening. So yes, I managed to go into the studio today, talk about the Olympics, and we got a plug on the ABC. So if anybody is listening to us from the plug given to us today by Helen Shield on afternoons on 936 ABC Hobart, then welcome aboard. We hope that we've at least kept you on board for a couple more days until you realise that we're not that funny until Colin Hilding comes back on the show. So there you go. But yes, Jarrod, always a pleasure. Keep an eye on that golf. And yeah, we'll be back once again tomorrow for another Off The Podium.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, looking forward to discussing the Australian Chokers, also known as the whoever. We'll see who pulls a Campbell tomorrow, and we'll talk more about that.

BEN WATERWORTH: Whoever pulls a Campbell, their team name will be renamed the Campbells. So we're going to come up with some team names there. Whereas on the flip side of things, in the Canadian side of it, anyone who finishes in the top ten are the Oleksiaks. In all seriousness, to counter Penny Oleksiak, she's won more medals than any Canadian athlete in one single Summer Olympics ever, and she's almost going to be the most successful Canadian in any Olympic Games ever, winter or summer if she can win at least one or two more. So great result there. And yes, sadly, it wasn't a dream. New Zealand did win gold medal today, but drink lots of alcohol tonight, folks, and we can forget it ever happened, and hope that will be the only one they win for at the Olympics. So we'll be back tomorrow here at Off The Podium. Hopefully we also didn't die like a pig today, but maybe we did, who knows. But yes, keep up, and we'll be back tomorrow. Thank you for your time, and good night.