PyeongChang 2018 Day 14 Review

We're so close to the end that we're nearly going to cry and there is a lot of crying today especially if you're Canadian so we try to make sure your tears are wiped away in the best possible way. Just how on earth did Canada lose to Germany in ice hockey? Just how on earth did Canada lose to Switzerland in curling? Just how on earth is it deemed a failure for Canada despite the fact they won a medal of every colour on day 14? How on earth is channel 7 even in Korea still when they are so focused on the Commonwealth Games already? And do you think Roger Federer would be a fan of our show if we were Swiss? So much to answer, so little time for you to click download!

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BEN WATERWORTH: Welcome back, everybody, to Off the Podium, an Olympics podcast where nobody's listening, and today we are here for day 15, day 14. Sorry, so much so no one's listening that we're getting the days wrong of the Pyeongchang 2018 Winter Olympics. I hope everybody's enjoying the background noise of a vacuum cleaner. Should you be able to hear that at home, my name is Ben, and we are here to celebrate the day of 14th with everybody's favourite expert when it comes to winter sports, mr. Jarrod Loobeek from Emu Plains in Sydney, Australia. Jarrod, welcome back.

JARROD LOOBEEK: It's great to be back. Yeah, getting close to the end, so Channel Seven might decide to show some events today. We'll see.

BEN WATERWORTH: Who knows? Who knows? And joining me now. Excuse me. Oh, sorry. I'm just choking. Oh, I'm just choking again. I don't know what it is about Canada and choking. It's just it's something going on here. Colin Hilding, Colin, welcome back to Off the Podium.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I don't get your reference. I thought we did great in the ski cross, so nothing else to really talk about today. Let's move on.

BEN WATERWORTH: Only in Canadian sports, on a day where you actually win a medal of every single colour, do we talk about choking? But yeah, I think that's kind of. I'm guessing you're waking up. Well, you're not waking up. You're enjoying your day right now. How is Canada reacting right now to losing a semi-final equivalent of losing to District Five in the Mighty Ducks, Germany? What the hell happened, Colin Hilding? This is a lock. You weren't meant to lose this match.

COLIN HILDING: Well, I mean, we've talked about a lot during this. No, no excuses. Don't give me some

BEN WATERWORTH: Canadian excuses. You weren't meant to lose this match,

COLIN HILDING: according to Australia, who lose everything. Like that's why you're not surprised. You keep thinking that you have the chance at winning stuff, so you think other countries could win too. I mean, it's it's just it's weird because I'm not hearing a lot of people being overly upset about it. It's maybe that's just the Canadian thing, but it could have been the time of day too because I think with the the women's game, you know, it started for us in the evening and people stayed up to watch it. But here, for the men's game it started at like 545 in the morning here. So I mean, I was like tuning in as soon as I woke up, and they had you know over a few minutes into the first period, and then I watched through to the end of the first period, and then I went to go take a shower. And by the time they came out, we were like three goals down. I'm like, what just happened? Like I I can't shower anymore. This this can't happen. I'm gonna have to go through the rest of the Olympics with us showering. I just cursed our team, but maybe a lot of people just didn't watch it that early in the morning, and it was sort of spoiled by the time most people woke up. So, I mean, I kind of just gave up on the game, and you know, didn't bother. I just heard heard about it later on, about an hour later after I got to work.

BEN WATERWORTH: One one thing I will say about Canadians is that I was actually I read a lot of the comments, kind of on all the social media posts, you know, that Team Canada and the men's team and everyone put online, and there's actually legitimately very few negative comments. Like, like there's a few like, oh, you lost to Germany, let that sink in. But for the most part, people are just like still proud of our boys. You know, go get the bronze, and oh well, we played well in the third period. Let's go for the bronze, and oh well, this is what happens when there's no NHL players. We didn't know what to expect, and we still did well. Like seriously, Jarrod, we're Australian. We know how this works for us. If this is like, I don't know, what's the national cricket team in the World Cup, and they go out in the quarterfinals, they get an absolute ribbing.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it's like I said yesterday. I mean, if you're a favourite or you're a team that's meant to win and you lose, you're not coming back in. We don't let you back into the country. We send you off to New Zealand, where people who fail belong, but evidently maybe not so much longer since they're right on our heels. But for the meantime, you can still send them to New Zealand. Maybe next time we'll have to send them to I don't even know Lichtenstein. They're a bit further down, Tonga. Yeah,

BEN WATERWORTH: yeah. I mean, Colin, you. I think you're about to say something there, but I mean, it's just it's just a Canadian. I think you've always discussed this as like a Canadian attitude because I very do I very do I very rarely see angry Canadians ripping into their athletes.

COLIN HILDING: Ah, I we we went through that. That was called 2006. That was like a complete embarrassment. But that was months of like media campaigns about how every country in the world fears Canada. I think just this time because we had no expectation. Like overall, I would say the the anger level of Canadians went number one the women's curling, number two the men's curling, number three women's hockey, number four men's hockey. Like this was low on the totem pole for things to get angry about.

BEN WATERWORTH: And also, at the end of the day, you went into this having won the last two, so I mean it's not like you hadn't won it in you know 50 years going into like Salt Lake or something like that, but yeah, it's. I mean, it's it's, and we've also got the positives. You know, as much as you know, I generally personally have always. This is my main spot that I love following in the Winter Games is cheering for you know the men's ice hockey team. So you know, I'm disappointed. I stormed out and went and got McDonald's at 2o'clock in the morning. But I think from outside of that perspective. I mean, a fairy tale. This is Germany. They've made it to the gold medal match. A side that it's exciting. It is. I mean, they've never beaten Canada in Winter Olympic hockey before, and basically, you didn't. You never put Germany in the picture of great nations of ice hockey. Didn't even qualify for Sochi. Didn't win a single game in Vancouver and Turin. So I mean, from from an outsider's perspective, just putting all our bias aside, I mean, this is this is a fantastic story for them to to make it all the way to the gold medal match. So positives go Germany, right?

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, and it could have been worse. I mean, we could have lost the United States. I think that would have pretty much broken the country. That's pretty much the only criteria. Like, if we lose the United States, okay, you know, we have reason to be upset. If we lose to any other country, we're okay with it because we're like, hey, we're we're we're sprinkling some of our magic dust on Germany right now. Like, we're giving them our blessing. We're passing the torch for at least four years.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, yeah. I mean, Jarrod, I don't know like how much you ever pay attention to to the ice hockey. If you kind of have ever sort of followed this closely when you watch the Winter Olympics, but I mean, I'm assuming you're, you know, as most Australians do, we assume Canada are always going to dominate this and win this. But I mean, from an outsider's perspective, to see a side like Germany do this well is fantastic.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it's nice, and it will be poetic too if Germany does equal Canada's record of 14 golds by getting a gold in the ice hockey,

BEN WATERWORTH: touche. It's it's it's interesting actually that um you know this is a country that is leading the medal tally as you know just by basis of silver their second um and yet we're talking about a fairy tale of one of their teams making the gold medal. It's not like it's Liechtenstein have made it. I mean, this is a dominant nation. It's just they're just not dominant in this sport.

COLIN HILDING: Well, they they even had on. I think it was CBC or TSN yesterday. They were talking about you know at this point it's not looking. This was before the game. They're like at this point it's not looking like Germany is going to be able to surpass Canada's record of 13 golds or whatever, and then literally hours later they beat us to get into the gold medal game. I mean, yeah, it's all the all the things that we could be angry about. We just can't bring ourselves to be like that or Canadian.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, they're up against the esteemed nation of the Olympic athletes from Russia, so who defeated the Czech Republic three nothing, so Canada will face up against their shootout lost foes in the Czech Republic for bronze. Now this is a weird thing about the final though is that like not only do we have Germany, a nation that's never done any better than bronze, they've only ever got I think one bronze in the history, two bronzes in the history of the Olympics in this sport, so they've never made it to a gold medal match. They're playing a side that isn't really a. I mean, we know they're Russia, but we can't like call them Russia. So it's kind of

COLIN HILDING: Olympic,

BEN WATERWORTH: Olympic, O

COLIN HILDING: A R,

BEN WATERWORTH: O A R, or versus Gur. I mean, it's just. I don't know. I don't even know if I want to watch the final. I mean, I want Germany to win, but at the same time, it's like oh, or versus Germany. I don't know. Do Canadians still want to watch the final? I mean, you always want to watch hockey, don't you, Colin?

COLIN HILDING: It's been so long since we haven't been in a final. I don't know if Canadians watch it if we're not in it. You know, we have to go back 12 years. And if you look at like, I mean, for one thing, I know that CBC is hating this right now because the two most watched events in Canadian television history were the 2002 and the 2010 gold medal wins, and I think the 2014 gold medal win is like in the top five or top 10. So you have three gold medal wins in the 10 most watched events in Canadian television. History, Canada not being in it. I mean, CBC is is they're probably weeping right now.

BEN WATERWORTH: The sad fact is is that Russia, as Russia, like we're talking post Soviet Union Russia, have never actually won the gold medal in men's ice hockey. You've got to go back to 1992 to the esteemed unified team that took the gold, and obviously before that, it was all dominated by the Soviets. So it's it's kind of sad in the fact that if they do win this gold, they still can't claim that they've won the gold as Russia, and that they would the last time maybe it's an omen for Russian teams that when they compete under an Olympic flag, that they will go on to win the gold because it's you know been 26 years. So

COLIN HILDING: I mean, we did get our first Russian gold last night too.

BEN WATERWORTH: We did through a 15-year-old who's yet to test positive. So, good. So

COLIN HILDING: far, so good. So far, so

BEN WATERWORTH: good. It's on the medal tally, and the the whispers are that they're going to be reinstated as Russia for the closing ceremony. Now, how does this work? Like I'm seeing headlines that the IOC are thinking about doing this when the only two athletes at these games to be found guilty of drug offenses are both from the the Olympic athletes from Russia. So I mean, what is going on here, Thomas Bach? I don't I don't know. Is this making headlines? And can I just reading, trying to read this about now about how this is possible? I mean, if they reinstate them, does that mean that all of a sudden the medal tally reflects this? It's back to being Russia instead of OAR. I mean, how does this work?

COLIN HILDING: I mean, the the Russian and OAR in this games are one and the same. It's not like that's going to change, but it doesn't really make sense when the the whole idea. I understand if you went through the whole Olympics and you're like these, sorry, these athletes.

BEN WATERWORTH: Colin's dose is just kicking in.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, but if if you competed through the whole games and you're like these athletes, these you know 20 whatever medallists were all clean. They didn't deserve to have their country name taken from them. Let's reinstate it just in honour of them now that the games are over. Because Russia successfully went through an Olympics without testing positive, we can't say that. Like that's what is making this so hard. I could almost understand it if they did go without testing positive, but we've had one medallist and one non-metalist now test positive, and it's only like 14 days. They had to go 14 days without sniffing or snorting or shooting anything up.

BEN WATERWORTH: Let's be honest. And they

COLIN HILDING: couldn't do it for weeks.

BEN WATERWORTH: I know, but two's still pretty good. Russia comes out. Yes, it's quite good win for country. Only two test positive. That's positive action for Russian athletes. I mean, we just there's been another one. So it's a Russian bobsled athlete, Nadazeda Sergiva, is the latest one. I'm guessing that's who's in your picture. Is that Jarrod? Is it a legitimate jumper she's wearing, or have you doctored that up on Photoshop quickly?

JARROD LOOBEEK: No, that's legit. She did a video about anti-doping before the game.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh my god, this is amazing. I don't do doping. I am the sport. Oh my goodness! But I mean, like I don't get what this this means. Like, hi Russia, only two of you tested positive. Pretty good haul. Meanwhile, would you like to represent your country and walk under your own country's flag at the closing ceremony? I mean, it's a nice moment for these Russian athletes. I mean, we as much as we make fun of them, I'm sure for the majority of these athletes who are clean, that it is a weird feeling having to compete under an Olympic flag. I mean, for the you know the gold and silver medallists in the figure skating, they had to see an Olympic flag being raised up. The 15 year old girl, she's hearing the Olympic hymn. You know, she doesn't get to hear her own country's anthem. So I mean, I don't know if this means anything by letting them walk under the flag because again, does that help them? Does that change the medal tally? Does all of a sudden your history show that it was Russia that won the gold in the figure skating, not the Olympic athletes from Russia? I just don't understand what the the purpose of this would be.

COLIN HILDING: I mean, all in all, the only thing that really matters. I think the athletes that did Nos test positive, you know, the 90% of medallists from Russia this time around, you can't. It seems unfair to take that from them. Yeah, and it's almost it's a completely different thing. But it's like the everybody's favourite story about the unification of South and North Korea in the hockey, and they're like, "Oh, that was such a great thing. But apparently, in South and North Korea, like the public are not happy with this because they're like, "Why are we joining hands with somebody of completely different ideals? Somebody that we wouldn't agree with in any other? Like, Korea is not necessarily behind this idea. It's just the rest of the world who's like. Having themselves in the back, it's like we achieve peace through the Olympics.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, and this is-I was having a conversation about this with somebody the other day. They asked me, like, "Oh, what did you think about Korea? And you know, the Koreans walking in, and I'm like, "It's-it's just, you know, it's-it's an-it's an outside world thing. Like we're looking at it, going, "Oh, it's so great, but it's not the first time this has happened. We saw it in Sydney. I remember famously in Sydney 2000, they walked under the same flag. It was a big deal here when that happened. You know, I think they mentioned they did it in like Turin and Salt, like they've done it plenty of times before. Might be the first time that they've competed together like on one team. It's great. It's taking baby steps. But at the same time, when you're reading articles this week about what is happening to these North Korean athletes going home, that they're being publicly shamed for six hours in front of a crowd who are deliberately laughing at them, and they're being made a mockery of, and just you know the conditions that they've got to go back to. What has this achieved? You know, the Olympics are a great tool for for politics. It's you know the the this is part of what I love about the Olympics is it really it's the only event in the world where everybody kind of comes together and forgets that the world is a fucked up place. You know, even if it's for a couple of weeks, and it's great to show that as people on this planet we can do this. And then flame goes out and we go back to hating each other. It's great, but it's just you know there are little things like this, like as you said with Korea, that it's like okay, it's great. It was a great sign of you know respect and prosperity and all this sort of stuff, but it's not going to change anything. You know, Russia-they're still going to take drugs. It's not just the Russians. Wasn't one of the other ice hockey teams that like pretty much a quarter of their team got caught with drugs? I can't remember which country it was, and I'm sure there's going to be other nations. It's always a case in the Olympics. It's a sad aspect of sport, but we're just going to pretend to say nothing. I mean, I'm

COLIN HILDING: I'm crossing my fingers that all the German team tests positive tomorrow.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, and they have to redo the something like that. I mean, it's only a matter of time before one of you know the three of us get caught with drugs, and we have to get our podcast taken off us. You know, so I look forward to Ben

COLIN HILDING: Waterworth has been stripped of off the podium due to testing positive to Hildonium or whatever that was for the Crillers.

BEN WATERWORTH: I want to hear this. Do you want to tell this Schindler's List reference now, Colin? I'm intrigued.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah. Okay. I mean, I'm just gonna group this in well in advance. My athlete of the day. I'm gonna pick for this German figure skater. Now, this is well. This just shows how I explained the story to Jamie today, and all she could say is, you know, all people do is they look for a reason to complain. Because last night when we were watching the figure skating, there was this German figure skater, and she was skating to the theme from Schindler's List, and I was like, "Oh, I'm gonna watch this one. I love the theme from Schindler's List. Not thinking anything of it. Well, today there's all this outrage. Like I'm talking like USA Today. I mean, there there are articles all over the place. People slamming this German figure skater because the nerve of a German to skate to the theme from Schindler's List, a movie about a German hero who saved a bunch of Jews during the Holocaust, and yeah, I'll just read some of the reactions there were. Nicole Schott is her name. Now, first of all, some people are like it is ridiculous to me. I've been reading this all day, and I have yet to hear one person actually use the argument. The movie is about a German. It is, it is a movie about a German hero. But people are using excuses. Well, she's only 21. She doesn't know anything about the Holocaust. She doesn't have to. The movie's about a German. And there's these are some of the reactions people had. Lovely and talented woman who was born more than 50 years post Nazi era, not present day. That said, if you are representing Germany in ladies figure skating, Schindler's List is a bad music choice. German women skating in Schindler's List. This feels really effed up. Maybe don't skate to the theme from Schindler's List if you're from Germany. It's just a little awkward. The music squirter Schindler's List is beautiful. I'd like to know why Nicole shot of Germany chose to skate to it. I seriously doubted that she intended any offence. It is a movie about a German man who saved a bunch of Jews, and people are like the Germans. The nerve that they would ever let's just hold every German from now until the end of eternity. Let's hold the Holocaust against them, despite the fact it is about a German that saved

JARROD LOOBEEK: these people

COLIN HILDING: because of what Hitler did. Now John Williams, who composed that music, also composed the music for a movie called Memoirs of a Geisha, which is one of his more famous scores, not a great movie, but let's just say that no American is ever allowed to skate to the theme from Memoirs of a Geisha because that movie deals with Japanese hardships during World War II, where Americans dropped nuclear bombs on Japan. So for that reason, no American is ever allowed to skate to anything that is Japanese themed, it is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, and I have yet to find a single person on here who's even pointing this out that it is not a movie. It was a movie made by Americans, a movie made by Americans starring an Irish man as a German hero during the Holocaust.

BEN WATERWORTH: It's

COLIN HILDING: the the nerve of that German girl.

BEN WATERWORTH: It's something I wasn't expecting for Colin Hilding to come on today and defend Germany. But hey, like yeah, exactly. The thing that I have to say about this is like Germany, of all the countries who have done bad shit in the past, they're the one who don't generally like to mention that they've done. They've kind of moved on Germany. Like most Germans are like, nope, nothing happened in that period of time. So, like, I don't think of any country in the world they're going to be the ones like, oh yes, let's play the Schindler's theme and piss off the world. Like, I have the ones who are going to be like, oh, maybe they think great German, culturally sensitive. This will be good. Because all Germans sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

COLIN HILDING: Right now, you know, any person in Germany is scratching their head at this social media outrage, going, "I thought Oskar Schindler was German.

BEN WATERWORTH: All the Germans are going, "We big make big success in ice hockey, and everyone only cares about music in figure skating. What do we have to do to get respect?

COLIN HILDING: We give you Schindler to the world, and you spit in our face.

BEN WATERWORTH: We beat Canada. Screw you, internet. This is all

COLIN HILDING: Liam Neeson's fault.

BEN WATERWORTH: He's gonna. I want Schindler's to call out the internet. I know who you are. I know what you're doing. I will find you. I will hunt you down. Leave it alone. It was a good movie. I want

COLIN HILDING: Liam Pearson to avenge Nicole's shot. She does not just.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh my God! Hashtag 2018. Like just Jesus Christ, everybody! We thought it was bad enough. It's the movie for plane. It's exactly like we were trying to explain last week with Jackie Cooper's alleged racist remark, in which she's clearly describing the Chinese athlete as having a style of the Chinese athletes, and yet people just take her comment of, "Oh, the Chinese athlete, very Chinese, all look the same as racist, because I take it out of context to what she's actually saying. So yes, 2018. It's when all this shit happens. Jarrod, did you notice any of this? Yes, sorry. I was saying

COLIN HILDING: those four. Those four Jamaican bobsledders. They all looked the same because they were wearing the same clothes.

BEN WATERWORTH: Any social media outrage coming in EU planes right now, Jarrod?

JARROD LOOBEEK: No, I didn't notice any of this, but yeah, just wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

BEN WATERWORTH: And here I am thinking the French should be, you know, annoyed that you know how many people are using the Moulin Rouge soundtrack during these figure skates, where every time I flick over, someone's skating to Roxanne, which is actually fantastic. It's actually really making me want to watch Moulin Rouge again, and I thought I never uttered that sentence in my life. We should go have some results, shouldn't we? That's probably a good idea. So we had four medals decided on day 14. The biathlon, the men's relay. It was gold to Sweden. Thank you, Sweden, for denying Norway their 14th gold medal of the Winter Olympics. Good to see my half of my heritage is doing us proud. Colin's so miffed that Norway didn't win that gold medal. He's hung up. They took the gold in the men's relay. Norway the silver, and Germany, hopefully not to any Schindler's List music. Took the bronze. The figure skating, as we said, it was a gold and silver to Olympic athletes from Russia. Alina Zagatova, 15-year-old, took the gold in the ladies' signal singles. She beat out teammate Evgenia Evgenia Medvedev. The Russian athlete took the silver medal there, and everybody's girlfriend on this show, Caitlin Osmond from Canada, she ended up with the bronze. And welcome back, Colin. You're obviously pretty dis. Welcome back. Are we talking

COLIN HILDING: about Caitlin Osmond?

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, I just said everybody's girlfriend on this show got the bronze. Yeah, I just I thought you hung up because you were so disappointed that Sweden won the gold in the biathlon, so oh no, all right. I

COLIN HILDING: mean, Sweden's done much worse things today.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, well, have they? He

COLIN HILDING: knocked out Great Britain, Eve Meerhead, in the curling.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, of course they did. That that happened. But the one thing, actually, I was scrolling through Twitter just as this biathlon started, and the headline was, "Oh, Canada leading early in the men's relay. And I'm like, "What? Canada winning in biathlon? This is you know, this is Germany being in Canada all over again in the ice hockey. Freestyle skiing, though. So much so have we been talking about Germans getting ripped in and Germany knocking over Canada. We haven't even talked about the fact that. You actually won a gold medal on day 14. You won a gold and silver in the women's ski cross. Kelsey Sir took the gold ahead of Brittany as it Pellen. She took silver. Phelan, Phelan, that too. And Fanny Smith from Switzerland took the bronze. So I mean, this is obviously great. You took out both the men's and the women's ski cross. So happy days with Canada.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, and it's funny because, as I said, I actually prefer ski cross over snowboard cross. But I don't know if I just don't pay close attention or if it just doesn't get a lot of media attention any other time of year. I didn't even realise of the three Olympics that have held this in the women's ski cross, Canada's won gold all three times, and this is the second time in a row because it happened the same in Sochi, where women won gold and silver because Kelsey Ciro, who won the gold this time, was the silver medallist, and Mariel Thompson, who we thought was our best shot at winning gold again when this event started, she was taken out like in qualification, but somehow we pulled off another gold and silver, so three Olympics in ski cross and five medals for Canada. It's kind of crazy.

BEN WATERWORTH: And the good news is too. What is this now? Three Olympics in a row where you're in the double digits in the gold. So and and your most medals. You've now officially broken Vancouver. Most ever medals ever won in a single Olympics. So I mean, you know, despite the fact that your curling and your ice hockey teams are choking, this still must be a pretty big day for Canada, considering your success.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, you know, the ski cross happened so early that I think people have forgotten about it by the time the hockey started. But all I'm seeing all day today is just Caitlin Osmond everywhere, you know, which is fantastic. Yeah, but sounds like it. Quite. It was so disappointing watching this last night, though, because we did have another skater in there, Gabrielle Daleman, I think her name is, and I don't know if you saw her routine. Like, it may have been the single worst skate anybody's ever had in the Olympics. It was, you know, you know, like when you you person. Not that we all dream of figure skating at night. I mean, I'm sure we have at some point or other. But regardless of what it is you're dreaming about, you have a dream, and one thing goes wrong, and then from there everything goes wrong, and that's what Gabrielle Damlin's skate was, where she had like one mistake, and then she slipped and fell, and then every single thing she tried was just flat on her face, like she was literally in tears by the time it was over, and yet somehow this is why I don't understand about figure skating. She ended up somewhere in the middle. I mean, there were people who finished their skate without a single fall or slip or anything like that who were last place behind her. I don't understand the scoring of this, but it just it started off so grim, and then Caitlin Osmond comes out there and you know totally redeems it for the country, it's one of only a handful of figure skating medals we've ever won. At least for the women, it's usually more men that dominate in this. But that's kind of been the big story today. I mean, I think without that, we'd probably be in mourning right now. But it was great. It was it was weird watching though because Jamie's watching Caitlin Osmond. It's like this girl looks so average, and I'm like, you shut your mouth! Go away, JB

BEN WATERWORTH: Hilding. Jesus,

COLIN HILDING: leave Caitlyn Osmond alone. Next,

BEN WATERWORTH: next time, like Hugh Jackman takes his shirt off, I want you to be like, oh God, he's fat. Just say something to piss her off. Obviously, the judges for the figure skating there must be the same ones for David Morris's aerials the other day. If they're giving people who didn't fall higher results than you know that lower results, I should say. That's that's where I was going with that. Yeah, I'll get to the fix case in second because I think we saw enough of it last night. Well, at least one of our athletes we saw enough of it. But you know, for us, it

COLIN HILDING: was a German hero, people.

BEN WATERWORTH: I'm talking more about the Australian, but anyway, she's Kalani Crane people. But Jarrod, the off-the-podium curse continues because it actually looked as though our Sammy Kennedy sim was in with a good shot. She made it through to the semi. She was in good stead. Then the semi-final happened, and she got off to a terrible start. Didn't make it through, and finished overall in eighth. But I mean, you know, she again great for Australia because she was extremely excited at the end of it. She was like, "I finished eighth in the Olympics. I'm not going to be sad about this. So you know, this nearly bit the AOC in the ass, didn't it? That we could have had a medallist that could have topped Jared Hughes, and they would have had to change the flag bearer.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I was getting my hopes up. Definitely the commentators jinx on this one because every single round before that semi-final, they talked up like her start and that she's getting out really fast and she's getting ahead if she can just stay ahead. And then, of course, come semi-final time, she nearly falls in the first two metres. But yeah, I had my hopes up. I'm like, there's only four people in the final. She makes it through like you've got a really good chance of meddling, but I think she kind of used up all her luck because in her first round there was only two people in her race, so she automatically got through. So I think that was kind of her luck for the day. And after that, it was like the second one went okay, but it was just over.

BEN WATERWORTH: And no disrespect to our bobsledders who I. Leave might be our only athletes left. She was pretty much our only possible medal chance going into the remainder of these games. No offence to our cross country skiers, who I just will say, Phil Billingham and Callum Watson are still yet to ski again. So,

COLIN HILDING: are you at three or four now for me? Still a three.

BEN WATERWORTH: We're still at our beloved three. So, yes, just rubbing. I'm

COLIN HILDING: winning then because I think that's what I predicted Australia to have when we started this this Olympics. I think

BEN WATERWORTH: you might have. I have to go back and check my list. Good point there, actually. So we then had the speed skating, the men's 1000 metres killed news. I do I do watch these events and hear how they pronounce their names, and then I go to bed and forget about life. So the Dutch skater won. He beat and again celebrate that they again denied Norway from winning their 14th gold. Norwegian Havre Holm Lorenzen couldn't go back to couldn't go the double. Sorry, in the 501,000, he took the silver, and Kim Tae Yoon of South Korea took the bronze. And really, the only other one to mention, curling the bronze medal match, just keeps getting worse for Canada. What happened? They can't even win a bronze against Switzerland. Jesus.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I didn't catch that either. This is, you know, I mentioned it was either yesterday or the day before about the only real frustrating thing is that like we get the beginning of the day coverage and then we get the end of the day coverage. Like when I wake up, like beginning of the day is before I go to bed, end of the day is when I wake up in the morning. Everything that happens in the middle gets spoiled for me. Today was the day where I was okay with the curling being spoiled for me when I woke up, and then the hockey being spoiled for me. I'm like, I would have rather not been there to watch that than to actually sit through like three hours only to end in that kind of disappointment.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, we should also mention that we you briefly touched on it before, but the women's semi-finals are in the curling. So South Korea eight seven over Japan and yes Sweden 10 five over Britain so that's just a doubly sad day for Colin Hilding there in the biathlon I will say Canada ended up finishing 11th you did beat your great biathlon rivals of Estonia by one position so congratulations there figure skating you went over the Canadians there, and did did we know that Kalani Crane was skating at this at all, Jarrod? I didn't see any footage of this at all. Did you? No, no, no

JARROD LOOBEEK: footage of this was shown. Yeah, at all.

BEN WATERWORTH: Terrible Channel Seven. Terrible. She was 17th, but good job. You know, for somebody who finished 17th, generally think that's a disappointment. But it was all very much positives for her and a good athlete that appeared on this show. The last guest we actually had on previously before these games started, and you know everyone's talking about her Instagram followers.

COLIN HILDING: We’re so sorry.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, well, her Instagram followers are because of us, not because of being on the Olympics. Let's be honest. In the speed skating, so the best Canadian was Alexandre Saint Jean. He was 11th. Vincent de Hautre was 19th, and Laurent Dubrel was 25th. Is that where they just send all the the French Canadians? They just do speed skating. Daniel Greg for Australia was 22nd. He stayed up.

COLIN HILDING: Daniel Craig.

BEN WATERWORTH: Daniel Craig was 22nd. Jarrod he stayed up. He finished both races.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I mean, this has got to be a massive achievement. I think that's kind of worthy of a gold on our medal tally. So I just secretly penciled in a one there for Daniel Gregg.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, but good news. Take

COLIN HILDING: that, Blofeld.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, exactly. Damn it. Good news, of course, for New Zealand is that they didn't win a medal, so that's good, and the medal tally, no golds to either Norway or Germany. See, they're still both on 13. Canada though couldn't catch up. Well, they did with one, but they can't in the ice hockey. So 10 gold for them, but they're on 27. So Canada in second. If we classify this by total medals one, which again I'm going to say we should. USA in fourth, Netherlands are in fifth, and France, good news for them, is they're only in seventh. That's great. South Korea, four gold, four silver, four bronze. The four four fours, they're in ninth. Australia 22nd, and New Zealand 25th, and Latvia are in 27th. Just thought I'd remind people with that. Yes, yeah, I know you predicted then they'd be at least you know top 27. So your predictions are going well, Colin. I've never heard somebody so excited to hear Latvia read out in the middle. Yes, Latvia, come on. Enough.

COLIN HILDING: I just remember Latvia being one of those countries, whenever the Olympics came around, my brother would secretly be rooting for Latvia. I never understood why. I

BEN WATERWORTH: just love saying their name in like a Russian accent, Latvia. That just sounds like just like a country. Yeah, just like Thomas Bach at the closing. Oh God! Hey, actually, can we just point out at the time of recording this? I think Thomas Bach, if you're listening, start your. Speech now at the closing ceremony. You might actually finish by the time the torch goes out. So yes, what did we watch on day 14? Let's start with you, Jarrod.

JARROD LOOBEEK: I caught kind of the end of lots of things. So the end of the ice hockey, the end of the men's curling, basically just watching Canada lose, and then I did. No, I I I correct that. I did see them win in the ski cross because I watched the entirety of that. Yeah, and I think that was. Oh, and then obviously Kalani Crane ice.

BEN WATERWORTH: What did she skate? Did she

JARROD LOOBEEK: get skating? Yeah. Yeah, that's the only athlete that I saw of that.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, did do you find yourself now since doing this show, Jarrod? Whenever Canada wins a gold, secretly go, "Yes, go Canada! Like, oh God, Colin's going to be gloating again.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, absolutely. Like every time there's an event on, and I'm like, "There's a Canadian there, I was like, "Oh, we'll just-that's who I'm going for because there's no Australians in this. Or if there are, I'm like they're going to choke in the first round.

BEN WATERWORTH: No Latvians either, so it's kind of like okay by default. It's it's Canada. Colin, what did you watch in your sporadic day? I think you already told us, but we'll ask you again.

COLIN HILDING: Well, I watched. I mean, all last night for me was the ski cross finals, like start to finish, all the qualifyings, the quarterfinals, semis, and everything, and then once that was over, it was just figure skating all night because Jamie did not want to change the channel from figure skating. I mean, the only point where she got disappointed was when Kaitlyn Osmond came on because she looked too average to her. Get your awesome

BEN WATERWORTH: glasses.

COLIN HILDING: She has a very thick glass. Terrible glasses. Should have gone to Smick Savers. But she did get excited when Kalani came on there. I mean, she's like, "We got an Australian on here! Like, it was very exciting for her. I kind of have the the same reaction you guys do. It's it's more just a surprise thing. I think every time there is an Australian athlete that's doing well, like because I'm I still transfer everything onto the computer. You know, I'll edit it and everything every day, and get maybe an hour, hour and a half worth of coverage. And if an Australian's competing in anything, I'm recording. I'm like, ah, we're probably going to talk about this tomorrow, or send them some type of you know hateful message on the website. Got to watch this. Other than that, the only things I watched was I did start the hockey game this morning, and then I showered. I think just at the right time when it went south, and didn't bother to watch the rest of it after that. And then spent my lunch watching poor Eve Meerhead go down the last two ends of curling there in the semis, which I went back to my desk and messaged Jamie and told her that Eve Mearhead lost, and she mocked me and was like, "Boo! I'm so sorry.

BEN WATERWORTH: Your wife's a horrible person. Can I just say that? Wow. Okay. With your editing skills, just send a resume into Channel Seven. They might actually hire you. Like, oh my God, this person knows what he's doing, editing the Olympics. I have

COLIN HILDING: more more Australian coverage than you do, and I don't have to have replays.

BEN WATERWORTH: You just sent in a demo reel. Like, oh my god, how do you have so much coverage of our athletes? It's like because I actually bother looking at them. Yeah, so there you go. I was out for most of the day, so I kind of only saw the ski cross result by a result on my phone, and I was like, "Yay, Canada won! But they replayed it about 30 times last night, so that was fine. It's not like I didn't see it anyway. Same with Kalani, and then obviously I watched the ice hockey from start to finish, which was a bad idea. But you know, I got excited with him. I loved the. I don't know if you saw the hit in the was it in the second period? Who was the Canadian player who basically just absolutely steamrolled the gym with his elbow into his head? It was a major penalty, and he was ejected from the game because the German player was like flattened on the ice. And can I just point out the calmness of the German team so much so are they in shock that they're even in the Olympic semi-final. This was an NHL match or America versus Canada. There would be the biggest punch-on in centre ice after this one. The Germans just kind of laid back and was like, "Oh, oh, Hans is injured. Quick, get to him!

COLIN HILDING: You know, it was the calming effect during in between periods. They were listening to the soundtrack of Schindler's List, and it just really had a positive effect on them.

BEN WATERWORTH: Quick, German aggressions must never be shown. This isn't a thing. Germany not aggressive. Peace or nation. It's all good. He's injured. Get him, stretcher. It's a massive, massive hit, and I love the fact that the Canadian guy, because I think he was the one who scored your first goal, and then like he basically was like mouthing off at this German who's flat in the ice, he's just like going off at him. So like the thing that I loved about Channel Seven on Twitter is that they're like, oh, a terrible hit in the semi-final. No one wants to see this, and I'm like, dude, this is ice hockey. Everyone wants to see. Yeah, like what are you? Talking about Channel Seven, you know nothing about ice hockey, clearly. But yeah, no, he's fine. the The German guy actually was back on in the third period, so he's not dead or anything. We're not laughing at a poor dead German. So there's that athlete of the day. I think you gave it already, Colin, didn't you?

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, yeah, it has to be what's her name, Nicole Schott or whatever the German, the the very inconsiderate German who skated to Schindler's List. How inappropriate!

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, yes, Jarrod, who do you have?

JARROD LOOBEEK: Well, we've already mentioned mine as well. Doping bobsledder Nadeza Sagava, just because it's not even the fact that like like with the other guy the curling guy doping it was like funny like doping and curling in this I can understand like maybe curling gives you some sort of advantage in Bob slave but it just looks like she's kind of taken the same drug as the other guy so I don't really know but it's just the fact that prior to the game she's done a video with the shirt I don't do doping like you can't even script that. The fact that that's happened, and I just love that people are so like quick onto these things, and that's like the first photo, and like every article of her is just her in this shirt. That's like I don't do doping. I am the sport. Yeah, just just amazing and brilliant.

BEN WATERWORTH: It's kind of like Lance Armstrong whenever you go back and watch like all these interviews of oh no cycling is disgusting I would never dope you know or like Marion Jones or all these sort of things like it's just yeah it's kind of cringy but that that shirt is just hilarious that she's actually wearing that shirt I found the name of the Canadian ice hockey play because I want to give it to him Gilbert Brule who was ejected he actually formerly did play for the Columbus Blue Jackets, the Edmonton Oilers, and the Phoenix Coyotes. So he's a former NHL player. But yeah, I just I just love the sport that you can basically just shove an elbow into somebody's head, knock them out cold, and basically just trash talk them as they're dead on the ice. Fair enough, he got ejected from the game, and they got a five-minute penalty against them. But you know, I mean, if this is soccer, right? That's a red card. You're a man down for the rest of the game. Only in ice hockey, where it's like, oh, it's only five minutes with a player down, then you're all back up to full strength. It's all good. That's what I love about this sport is that you can just get away with stuff like that. So yeah, I'm giving it to. And his name's Gilbert Brule. Was it Brulé? It's got that little omulet at the end. It's probably Brule, but I like Brule. Reminds me of a very Canadian name, Joseph Gruul, the biggest asshole in the world. Gilbert

JARROD LOOBEEK: Brawl.

BEN WATERWORTH: Brawl. Yes. Ah, good call. Good call. Ah, what else? What else do we have? What else do we have? Oh, commentary fails and things. I don't really have any because I didn't really watch a whole lot. And what I saw was just Kalani, and I enjoyed the Canadian commentary on the ice hockey and Hamish McLaughlin just making a complete utter dick of himself. He's got a way of talking Hamish McLaughlin. He's like, and this is the ice hockey, and that's how it goes. And now we're like, I can't even do it. He has a style about the way he speaks, which is so fricking annoying. Jarrod, did you pick up any on Channel Seven that I was missing?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I didn't notice anything. I think it's like it's hard to have commentary fails when you don't see many of the events, and the parts of the events that you do see is just the Australians over and over. So there wasn't really that much footage to get commentary files from.

BEN WATERWORTH: I think actually I'll backtrack and say the one thing that I am starting to get annoyed with is that you know Channel Seven aren't really giving a shit about the Winter Olympics at all anymore. Not they have entirely in the last two weeks is the fact that they are running long athlete profiles on Commonwealth Games athletes. You know, and they're basically advertising the Commonwealth Games more than they are the Winter Olympics, so you know I'm I'm learning a lot about you know Emily Seabomb and all the swimmers and just how much the Commonwealth Games mean to them and things like that. Like I love how they talk to the marketplace. Go go, Jarrod.

JARROD LOOBEEK: No, I was just I I just thought of something when you would when you're talking about the athletes. I am so sick of far out every time Switzerland does anything. The fact that they have like Hamish particularly has to bring up Roger Federer. When you won their bronze medal in the curling, it's oh Roger Federer will be cheering back home. I'm like, what if you did this for like every single like country? When like Canada wins a gold, Eugenie Bouchard, mail us around it. They'll be cheering back home. Like we understand, you covered the tennis Spain with a couple of bronze medals. Nadal very happy back at home. Like you can't do this. It's so annoying. I'm like they won a bronze. Federer doesn't care. He's probably playing in an event somewhere. He's probably not even watching

BEN WATERWORTH: it. I think I think they should just do this not just for tennis. Like I get it, like the summer of tennis. They love their tennis on Channel Seven, but it should just be for everyone. Like Austria won a bronze. I'm sure the spirit of Adolf Hitler is very thrilled right now at this. Just on the spirit of Schindler's List and everything. Yeah, it's it's it's terrible. Like we get it, Channel Seven. You like the tennis. Great! Oh yeah, I'm with you there. I'm with. I can't wait for the Commonwealth Games. Oh, and the gold medals from St. Tom and Prince. Oh, Roger Federer wants to do it there once on a holiday. San Marino

JARROD LOOBEEK: competed in an event. Valentina will be cheering back home.

BEN WATERWORTH: Big reference there for our Eurovision fans. Portugal doing well there. Catch Eurovision this May on SBS. Actually, Basil did give a Eurovision reference, didn't he? When Ireland walked into the stadium during our coverage. So yeah. Anyway, Colin CBC.

COLIN HILDING: Ah, it's not that big of a fail, but it's more just funny. Partly because I'm sure you have the same type of commentating there with figure skating. It's almost like commentating golf. I mean, you you basically don't say anything during their routine, and then everything is so polite and so elegant afterwards. Or maybe yours is just like all you know weird Australian slang or something, but here we have like the most distinguished commentators, and it was I think it was either Caitlin Osmond or the other skater where they were talking about having already won in the team competition, and the one guy was saying, you know, she already is going home with a silver medal from these games, so to win another one would be great. And he's going on for a minute, and then the commentator say, "Did you mean a gold medal? And then he's like, "What did I say? Oh, you said silver. I'm so sorry. And like he was like really serious. Oh, I'm so sorry. And then the the the woman who was correcting was like, "That's okay. We knew that you meant gold. It's like, oh, thank you. It was like so polite and overly dramatic. I am so sorry. That's okay. That's okay. We knew what you meant.

JARROD LOOBEEK: So can I? Poor guy getting ready to hand me his letter of resignation. I brought

BEN WATERWORTH: shame on the great sport of figure skating, I can no longer handle this. Throws itself off the building. Yeah, it's it's actually interesting. Some of the sports that you like you watch at the Winter Olympics. It's not just Winter Olympics. The Summer Olympics as well. Is that some of them really? You think about it. Do they really need commentary like the Ariel's. Like you don't commentate them doing the tricks in the middle of it. It's all like, and here comes David Morris down the slope now, preparing for his jump. He's in the air, flip, flip, flip, lands. Oh, fantastic result there! Like I think it was because you can tell Basil's empty really doesn't know the interest the the big bits about. I can't even say the word the bits about the sport because I think there was one where like he like there was one of the athletes landed and Basil's emphasis is like and that is an outstanding performance and then Jackie Cooper interrupts goes yes Basil but lots of moves there in the middle there his legs are spread he's like really not a good form in the middle of that and then Basil

COLIN HILDING: spectacular he

BEN WATERWORTH: landed the jump, though. It's kind of like what had happened. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna miss these small little things talked about. Can I

COLIN HILDING: can I watch the the hockey finals on your app there so I can hear them going? And it's a home run for Germany. No, it's called a bull in this sport.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well we

COLIN HILDING: Touch down Germany!

BEN WATERWORTH: We get the Canadian commentary, so like at least some some Canadian with um one of the ice hockey ones I was watching. There was a bloody Brit commentating. Like, what do the Brits know about ice hockey? Um, and yeah. So anyway, before we get to my name is and fan and everything else. The question I want to ask you quickly, Colin, because we've had Jared Hughes announces our flag bearer for the closing ceremony. Have they announced that Canada's flag bearer yet, or because you're probably still going to win medals in the coming days, you just save that to the last minute? I mean,

COLIN HILDING: will we? Usually, these last two days are reserved for hey, we know we're getting curling in hockey. That's not happening now.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh well, actually, on our coverage, they were talking up your big air athletes. They were talking about like coming up tomorrow, the snowboard big air envisioning the two Canadian big hopes. Like they were the two they were talking up.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, and again, I didn't even realise that was on. Like there was so much attention on curling and hockey that I didn't even realise that was on until curling in hockey suddenly became a bust for us, and they're like tonight in big air finals. Mark McMorris, Max Perot. There's really no talk at all about who's going to be the flag bearer. If I had to guess, I would say Sam Girard might be one of locks. Either that, or because we did the dual flag bearers coming in for the opening ceremonies. They might go with Laws and Morris as our only success in curling or hockey. So those would be the ones that I would be betting on. But there's not even really speculation at this point. I don't think the decision's ever really made until a couple of hours before the closing ceremonies with each Olympics for Canada. The the one the good news is that I want to say because I mean I'm only seeing Jared Hughes I'm trying to see if anyone else has been announced but breaking news here I can officially say that the beloved Jess Diggins will carry the United States flag like get excited we pumped her up the other day so here she is she's she's gotten the nod to carry the American flag not from there, you know. All that Apollo Anton Ohno has done during these Olympics, snubbed again.

BEN WATERWORTH: Which I had to. I loved just quickly on America before we get to this. My name is too. I loved NBC. Their Twitter, I think, was like on this day, you know, 38 years ago, the miracle on ice. Today, it's redemption on ice, and they had a picture of like the women's ice hockey team winning the gold. Like, oh god, that's a bit of a stretch. But anyway, whose name is it today, Colin? Who are we learning about?

COLIN HILDING: Well, it's one of our failures in the women's hockey because they decided. I guess they thought this was such a sure thing. They added about 16 profiles in the last few days on almost the entire women's hockey team. It's not the. I mean, tomorrow I'm probably going to do like the greatest hits of anything that we haven't gone through yet. But for this one, I'm going to save. There's one main question here I want to reserve this for, and that'll be the last one I do. So, hello, my name is Brienne Jenner, and I am Canadian. My favourite Olympic moment is Women's Hockey Gold in 2002. If I could have any superpower, it would be Super Smarts, which I guess is the first person who doesn't want to be Iron Man or Fly or Teleportation. She just wants to be smart. My favourite sports movie is Remember the Titans. My favourite pump-up song is The Mull River Shuffle. I've never heard of that song before? Are either of you Mo River Shuffle fans?

BEN WATERWORTH: Just was listening to it just before we started. I can't get enough. Of course, it's my pump up song. Yeah, I find that song

JARROD LOOBEEK: offensive. Yeah,

COLIN HILDING: a Canadian should not be pumping up to the Mo River Shuffle. That's like a

BEN WATERWORTH: German listening to the Schindler's List theme. Disgusting. The

COLIN HILDING: most recent TV show I binge watched is Broad City. My favourite chip flavour. I was wondering if you guys even had these all dressed. Do you have all dressed chips, or is that a Canadian thing?

BEN WATERWORTH: I've heard of it. I don't know if you've told me that or Mallory. I'm familiar with what they are, but I don't think we have them here. So

COLIN HILDING: probably a Canadian thing. Yeah. All dress ships are fantastic. This is specifically for Ruffles All Dress, but I remember them coming out when I was a kid. I don't even know what you would describe it as. It's literally just a mix of everything, but it's fantastic. If I weren't an athlete, then I would be on Broadway, probably singing the Mul River Shuffle or something. My favourite vacation spot is Sedona because of the great hikes? Draw a picture of your favourite animal. So she drew a loon. If either you're familiar with the the Canadian dollar, which we call the loonie, there's a bird on it, which is called a loon. But she wrote it as the common loon. So I don't know. This is just like there are variations of the loon out there, and this is the common one, you know, that's in everybody's backyard. But the common loon specifically is what you drew. Here's the main one I wanted to read this for, and I love this question. I think this is what saved the my name is ones for these Olympics. My funniest childhood memory is, I stole my brother's tooth from under his pillow so I could put it under mine and get more money from the Tooth Fairy.

BEN WATERWORTH: That's that's good. That's good siblinging siblinging. I can't even say the word, but that's a good sibling.

COLIN HILDING: I have to wonder if it works. I might try that next time Casper loses a tooth. Take it under my pillow. Poor

BEN WATERWORTH: little Casper, you lost all your teeth. Daddy will take those. That's funny. I'm looking at her profile, and I just love how they just they use like social media now. They just put like you know the Instagram post, or here's a trailer for you know Remember the Titans and things like that. Just quickly as well, there is an article on Olympic.ca about who will carry the flag for Canada, and they've put their

COLIN HILDING: like every put.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, they've put their tips here as Ted Jarn Blowman, who what the $10,000 gold medallist. You've got Laws and Morris, as you said, are on there. They've got Virtue and Moyer again, Mikhail Kingsbury, Alex Goff, and Samuel Girard, and Kim Buton. So they're the front runners, apparently. So I want those

JARROD LOOBEEK: ski cross snubbed again. Yep, ski cross Canada's national sport, and they won't even let them carry the flag.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, it's it's a big controversy brewing there in Canada. I want them to give it to the the woman, the ice hockey player who ripped a silver medal off her neck. Walking into the stadium, throws a flag down. No, picks up like the American flag. Yeah, I I finally saw that footage of her doing it because I actually did make news here. I just. Ordered apparently. So once again, fan messages. We would read these if there were any new ones. It's now been three days. The AOC have gone home. So let's just remind people from the last one here. Dylan, New South Wales, is Scotty James. Hey, Scott, just wanted to congratulate you on the medal you got. You should be proud of what you have accomplished, and you are an amazing snowboarder. There we go. No, I don't know if this was there before, Jarrod. But I noticed that there's an ad for Swiss powering the dreams on there. So now Swiss is making the fan messages choke. Add it to your list. All right. So is there any point like messaging anyone, we've got to we've got to complete this off. All right, David Morris, the robbed man he is. All right, he's next on our list here. Name judge. We'll go judge email judge@hotmail.com overseas fan message. Sorry, that's it. Judge, sorry. All right, so there's one down. Let's go here for our next one. Is another one of our areas, Laura Peel. Now, was she the one who got fifth? Was she not, Jarrod? Was she the one who actually did well? Yeah, I think so. I think that was her. We remember. There's only 50 to remember. We remember where they finish. Okay, name. Give us a name. Somebody.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Tony Blackhost, top five baby.

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, Jarrod got a roll. Email and tony@home.com overseas top five baby. All right, cool. I've lost so much. Like that's that's one that should make it. If you know these will get published for Tokyo, I bet. Like they will be up there. Oh, we've got one of our other bobsledders who actually is in action today. We have Lachlan Reedy, Reedy, Reedy. Well, maybe he's ready to be Reedy. I don't know. Name Derese Bannock.

COLIN HILDING: I got

BEN WATERWORTH: okay.

COLIN HILDING: Just ask him. Is it reedy already?

BEN WATERWORTH: Is it reedy or ready? Done. All right. Again, we're not really changing much here. I love how it comes up with under moderation. No, it's not. You've all gone home. I love. They've

JARROD LOOBEEK: started the Commonwealth Games messages, moderating them already.

BEN WATERWORTH: I do love that. Actually, one thing I've noticed they weren't doing for a while, and I think they finally started doing that. They do like the games update, where they do you know quick little you know five minute news update of what's happening. And I noticed Scotty James is back home, and he's already going to schools, like showing you silver medal. Great way to support your fellow athletes, there, Scotty James. Just buggering off back to Australia. So

JARROD LOOBEEK: you mean the bronze medal?

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, the bronze medal. What did you say? Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. For shame, for shame. Oh, I'm just gonna go hang myself. Anyway, so we're now on to the next day. That's just once again for those at home. Pyeongchang 2018Olympics.com.au. Your messages won't be published, so by all means, say say talk. What you feel about this Schindler's List? You know things like that. Day 15 is upon us. At the time of recording right now, it has started. We have a massive eight events up for grabs today in the medals, including our girl Esther's back. Esther Ledecker can she double gold in these games in the women's parallel Giants slalom? But for the very first time at the Olympics, we have the mixed team alpine skiing. So, Colin, get excited for CBC just showing nothing more but alpine skiing all day.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah,

BEN WATERWORTH: the 50-kilometre classical in the cross country-that's basically like the marathon of the the Olympics-is here. We will have the curling, the men's gold medal match and the women's gold medal match none featuring Canada. So sorry about that. Actually, just the women's bronze medal game. The women's gold medal game will be tomorrow, it seems. Snowboarding, men's big air. Can New Zealand get another medal? Because remember, the highest qualifier was Carlos Garcia Knight. So shit, this could be the day which New Zealand unseen Australia on the medal tally. We also have the men's parallel giant slalom, the women's parallel giant slalom. Come on, Esther, do it for the Czech Republic. And this one, I'm interested to see the men's mass start and the women's mass start speed skating. Now, it was explained on Channel Seven whilst showing footage of short track. I hope they realise that they're showing the wrong sport. That it's like 30 odd skaters on ice. And like, Colin, do you know anything about this? I've never heard of this before in my life.

COLIN HILDING: Um, it sounds like something I've seen before. Is this the first time they've done it in the Olympics?

BEN WATERWORTH: It is. It's the very first time that they've had it at the Olympics.

COLIN HILDING: I'm sure I've seen it somewhere, like maybe a World Cup event or something like that, because it sounds like something I've seen before. But I mean, it sounds really complicated too. I mean, I have enough trouble trying to watch a relay in short track speed skating. I don't know what it'd be like with like you know 10 times the amount of people on there.

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, this this isn't this isn't short track. This is long track. This is oh, then

COLIN HILDING: that's easy. That's no problem because this

BEN WATERWORTH: is what I think Channel Seven were confused with because they were showing footage of like short track relays and they're like blah blah blah athletes on the ice, and it's like, dude, this is long track, not short track. So I found a just like the Royal Rumble and just be done with it. Well, I think this is kind of like comparisons to track cycling. This is where it comes in. Maybe like the the what is it? The Kirin, isn't it? That's where they all are on the track. Yeah. So from what I'm reading here, mass start two semi finals and a final will be on the same day. Each race consists of 16 laps with intermediate sprint, intermediate sprints after four, eight, and 12 laps and a final sprint. Event rankings are based on points gained in sprints, and by finish time for athletes not scoring any points. That's just like the Kieran, but you're on skates. So I'm intrigued to see this actually seems like quite interesting. So just crash bash in the long track as it should be. And outside of that, there's the bronze medal game between the Czech Republic and Canada in the ice hockey. What happens if Canada finish fourth, Colin?

COLIN HILDING: At this point, we've just given up. It doesn't matter. We

BEN WATERWORTH: just we just don't care anymore. The last time a Canadian team won a bronze medal was 1968 in Grenoble. I'm sure you remember that very very well, Colin. The great Canadian coach, Jackie McLeod, was your coach back then. Remember Jackie? Good

COLIN HILDING: old Jackie. Good

BEN WATERWORTH: old Jackie. Still with us, Jackie? Born in April 1930. Played on the

COLIN HILDING: show, Jackie

BEN WATERWORTH: played for the New York Rangers. Bring up

COLIN HILDING: another medal.

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, exactly. He was inducted into the Saskatchewan Sports Hall of Fame in 1984. So they,

COLIN HILDING: I actually saw I probably have a picture of him somewhere then because when they had the Canada Games here, uh back in the summer on Saskatchewan Day they had the Saskatchewan Hall of Sports Hall of Fame on display here so

BEN WATERWORTH: pretty big hall then if it can travel yeah exactly it was a

COLIN HILDING: traveling trailer no joke and you pull out like you'd pull out like a drawer, and it would have a bunch of stuff in there, and then you put the drawer in, so you could pull out another

BEN WATERWORTH: one. Oh, we're so proud of the Saskatchewan Sports Hall of Fame. Let's go on a national touring. That was like when I went to Alaska, and you go land at the Anchorage Airport, and it's like, come see the Anchorage Sports Hall of Fame. No, the Alaska Sports Hall of Fame. It's literally just like a corridor in the airport with like 20 pitches of famous Alaskan athletes. Which right now here's a challenge for both of you: name two famous Alaskan athletes. Yep, that's my answer exactly. The Yeti, Mystery Alaska, Russell Crowe. Yes, that's a good movie actually. Anyway, so go Canada for bronze. Repeat the great bronze medal win of 1968, Grenoble-that famous moment in Canadian ice hockey history. Forget Vancouver 2010. Forget Salt Lake City 2002. Think back to the boys of Grenoble. They've actually only ever won two bronze medals in the Olympics. You got to go then back to 1956, the Great Gains of Cortina. Isn't that a isn't that a car? Isn't that like a Ford Cortina or something like that? Anyway, what are you looking forward to on day 15, Jarrod?

JARROD LOOBEEK: I think watching the men's big air with bated breath over over where New Zealand finishes and that. I think that is going to be the highlight of the day. And then, other than that, I think yeah, the mass start speed's getting sounds like a recipe for disaster. So it'll be interesting to watch.

BEN WATERWORTH: What happens if everyone crashes? Like, did anyone ever establish like this is something I don't want ever change in history? Let's hypothetically say Stephen Brad. Crashed out on that final corner as well in 2002, and no one crossed line. That means that the B finalist is the gold medallist, right? Like we established that the other day in the in the relay. So God, this could happen in the math start. This is going to be exciting. Colin, is it all about bronze for Canada on day 15? Bronze medal match, the match you've all been waiting for.

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, you know, actually, the one I'm really excited for is the what is it? The snowboard slalom. Yeah, that's still coming, right? Esther,

BEN WATERWORTH: Esther Day, yes.

COLIN HILDING: Well, it's it's for the men's that I'm most excited about because I remember this was the event that was well, this was the event that was the big deal in Nagano when they added it, and there was an athlete, one of the two Canadians. The Canadian, of course, won that event. Is the one who tested positive for marijuana, and that is gold medal taken away briefly. But the one who was in the lead prior to that was J.C.J. Anderson, who I knew, you know, as a kid watching in the X Games, and he was like, you know, on a record pace, well, record for the first Olympics ever, but just like way ahead of the pack in his first run, and then the second run he wiped out, and it was so disappointing because I was like the athlete I was watching, and he's been at every Olympics since Nagano, and somehow out of nowhere in Vancouver he won the gold in this event. So I'm kind of hoping just for nostalgia that you know 58 year old J C J Anderson has a shot this year.

BEN WATERWORTH: I parallel giant slot them just reminds me of the Nagano 1998 Nintendo 64 video game because that was like one of my favouriteest favourites games ever. I used to play that to death, and I used to really enjoy playing it. And it was a lot easier to play on that than on this goddamn forsaken Pyeongchang video game that I play, which is just ridiculously bad. So yeah. But the good news is for Australia is that not only do we have no competitors in this, there's no New Zealanders as well. So, but let let's cheer on Esther. She could create history, the first ever winter athlete to ever medal in both snowboarding and skiing. She'd be the first athlete to medal in two different sports in Olympic Games in like 80 years, so she's basically the reigning world champion, I believe, coming into this in this event. So this is no doubt where she pulls in Australia or a Canadian ice hockey team and chokes. But I don't really know about the Czechs. The Czechs renowned for choking. I mean, they got thrashed by the Olympic athletes from Russia in the ice hockey, but Canada got beaten by Germany, so I guess we can't really hold that to gospel. How's your Czech sporting knowledge, Colin? Good, yes.

COLIN HILDING: Well, just listening to you try and say Czech and choke. I mean, those two words are very similar. I'm sure that there's some correlation there, and that we're going to see a check choke today.

BEN WATERWORTH: Czech choke, starring Esther Ledecker. No, Esther doesn't choke. She's a she's a god amongst women. She's amazing. So I'm going to be rooting hard for her today. So go, Esther. So we'll be back tomorrow for our penultimate day of coverage, and then basically after that, it's going to be wrapping up the closing ceremony, wrapping up the final day, and looking ahead to I guess Tokyo, Beijing, and more so looking ahead to the Commonwealth Games and working out what the hell we're doing during them. But it's an exciting day if you're a German. Well, unless you're playing Schindler's List, then you probably should go rotten hell. But always a pleasure to have both of these esteemed experts on the episode with me, Colin. Thank you very much, and please go for bronze today in the match against the Czechs.

COLIN HILDING: And go for bronze for Great Britain in women's curling. That's the more important thing.

BEN WATERWORTH: And Jarrod, for us, go for ninth place for New Zealand in the men's big air.

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, yeah, ninth or fourth. That's that's the only two places I'll accept.

BEN WATERWORTH: And we'll be back tomorrow. Same place. Remember to like us on Facebook, hashtag us off the podium on Twitter. And we appreciate your company. Good night, and speak to you tomorrow.