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Tokyo 2020 Day 7 Review

Jul 30, 2021
80 min read

A golden day for both Australia and Canada today and we're back to go over everything that happened and more! How excited are we to see Emma McKeon win gold and Cate Campbell actually come through for a medal? What about Canada being good at having lots of people in boats stroking? How is Canada reacting to Rosie MacLennan not defending her gold medal? And what about both Canada and Australia having famous football wins? All of that and more will be discussed on another epic episode, so don't miss it!



EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

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BEN WATERWORTH: It is Off The Podium, an Olympics podcast coming to you today for day seven of the Tokyo 2020 Asterix 2021 Olympic Games. And it has been another big, big day, a golden day for both Australia and Canada. Canada, I've won a gold! Get on board the Canadian train or the boat, the Canadian boat, because they know what they're talking about. It's a boot with eight people in it, well actually nine. We'll get to that potentially. It has been another big day outside of the metal winds and everything else along those lines. But I'm so excited to be able to talk about what has happened today with our number one Canadian expert on all things a boot, boots. Colin Hilding, Colin, welcome back after a day away, you're back and you're back.


COLIN HILDING: I am back. I waited until we went on the goal that I was on strike from Off The Podium until we won another gold. So if you don't hear from me tomorrow means I'm on strike again and I won't be back until we win another goal, which means we're going to win another goal.


BEN WATERWORTH: And Jarrod's on strike because Ash and John lost the tennis, but Jarrod, in all seriousness, should hopefully be joining us throughout this episode. We will just have to bring him in because he likes to make an entrance. He's kind of, you know, he got really famous after yesterday's episode. So therefore, he's going to come out and make a grand entrance today. But let's talk about Canada straight away. We didn't have a chance to really talk about it. We still talked about you guys yesterday. We made sure to keep up appearances. But The Women's Eight, the first time you have won this event since Barcelona in 1992, you beat New Zealand, which made it even better for me as an Australian to watch this. And as somebody who lived in Canada for 12 months, I know that about half of these people from this team are based basically where I was from in Canada, in Victoria and on Vancouver Island. So I'm going to take credit for half of these medals because none of them are from Winnipeg, I believe. So suck it Winnipeg. This is a big deal, though. The eights are the prestigious events of the rowing and you won the women's. So congratulations. How is Canada feeling today?


COLIN HILDING: They're feeling very good that you did not interview another rower and it led to another medal. So if Ben is living in a city with a Canadian rower and doesn't interview him, we go on the medal. That's the that's the successor here. I mean, this is big. I think anytime Canada can win any medal in the Summer Olympics, it's exciting. It's becoming a lot more common. We're finding but to win a gold's fantastic. There was I'm thinking it was London. We only won a single gold the entire games. So the fact that we're not even halfway through this Olympics and we already have multiple golds is even more exciting. Plus rowing, as I mentioned in the last episode, I mean, this is sort of a staple for Canada. We know we're always going to medal somewhere in the rowing. Who knows where it is. But I think that we took silver in this maybe in London, and that was probably the last time that this sort of main event was big for Canada. But I can remember Barcelona was probably the first time I actually really sat down and watched the Olympics. It wasn't something where I was like Olympic fanatic yet, but I can remember my brother and I during the summer break just sort of watching it. Oh, the Olympics song, let's do it. And getting really into rowing because we would suddenly see Canada pop up over and over again. We're like, we're good at something in summer Olympics. Let's keep watching. So my earliest Olympic memories as far as viewing Olympics goes was probably getting really into the rowing in Barcelona. And now we've had a couple of Canadian medals in events we haven't medaled since Barcelona. So I mean, Canadian women's rowing is back.


BEN WATERWORTH: It really is. I actually woke up just in time to watch this one. And I love watching the eights. The eights is always fun and particularly with no crowd. And the sound effect is you can basically hear all of these crews yelling at each other. It's fantastic. And your cox in the boat, she she went off. She was just absolutely going crazy. And I actually didn't realise that the cox got a gold medal. I thought it was kind of like the coach in a lot of these sports where I think the coach, we talked about this, I believe, with Sammy Jo Small, didn't we? About the coaches not getting medals. But I think that coaches in in team sports should. But I'm glad that the cox gets a gold medal in and thrown into the water afterwards, too. Yeah. And I mean, you beat New Zealand. So I mean, that that's I know you are having a rivalry here with Canada and New Zealand.


COLIN HILDING: Forget about Australia, New Zealand, Canada, New Zealand and the rowing is a rivalry now.


BEN WATERWORTH: Well, it's not just the rowing, Colin, and the metal tally. You're only ahead of them based on the fact you've won three more bronze. You've both won the same amount of gold and silver. Now we're going to talk about the fact that New Zealand won a couple of gold today. But yeah, this is a deep rivalry now between you guys. But I mean, was this an expected win? Was this one of these ones that Canada sort of earmarked as a potential gold? Or is this sort of a bit of a surprise?


COLIN HILDING: No, I think there are only two medals that we were projecting we would win. One was in doubles and one was in singles, and we didn't win either of those. So both of the medals that we have won have kind of been surprises. I think we expect to make it in the finals in this pretty much every single time, but certainly not a gold. And you could tell their reactions. I think some of the biggest Olympic memories that you have are just on the reactions of the people. And the bigger the reaction, the bigger of a surprise I think it is. I mean, this was like an explosive reaction. The cool thing is you don't see them break. Even they realise we've got this one. It wasn't until they crossed the finish line where suddenly they explode. And I think that's a little bit different to a lot of sports. Like just to be able to see how if you're a swimmer, if you're a runner, you're laser focused. But this is an event where you know you're winning. And we sort of talked about the I think was in the triathlon, the our Olympia Olympic athlete of the day who won the men's. How he just kept sort of peeking behind him like, yeah, I'm winning. Yeah. You know, when when there's an event where you could have this big of a lead, but you just you can't break your focus. And then all of a sudden you explode out of nowhere. So that makes a great Olympic moment.


BEN WATERWORTH: Is it when it comes to the reaction of Canada? Because I can imagine most of the attention today was on Rosie and we'll talk about her. But was this something that I guess is it still the talking point? Because I mean, this isn't me being a dick. This is legitimately saying that obviously Canada generally wins around three or four gold in a summer Olympics. You've already won three and it's not even halfway yet. I mean, is this kind of like a big deal now or is kind of the news still around the fact that Rosie unfortunately couldn't go back to back to back?


COLIN HILDING: You know, what's interesting with Rosie is that they didn't even want to mention her name until her event started. But kind of in the way we get to that it ended, she is sort of the big headline that you're seeing right now. I will say, though, this was aired. I felt like I was living in Australia because this Woman's 8 was aired, I think, three times before Rosie's event started. And there was only about six hours in between those events. So you know it's a big deal when Canada is willing to re-air something multiple times within only a few hours. But yet now since the trampoline event, it has sort of taken a back seat.


BEN WATERWORTH: I will talk a little bit about comparisons recently with both Australia and Canada, because it's actually quite interesting when we're just on the cusp of the halfway point and we're both sitting right now on the metal tally. But for Australia, we walked away today with a gold and a bronze in the same event. This is the one that Jarrod and I talked up a little bit last night. I've actually been legitimately excited for and we were legitimately excited to try and see our favourite athlete, Cate Campbell, try and win the gold. But Emma McKeon took the gold for Australia in the 100m freestyle and Cate Campbell took the bronze. So I believe that is only her second individual medal. But the big talking point with Emma McKeon is that this is her very first individual gold medal. This is her eighth Olympic medal, which means that if she can win one more medal at these Olympics, she will tie Liesl Jones and Ian Thorpe for the most ever medals in Olympic Games in history for an Australian. And if she wins two, she will break the record, which I don't know if she's able to do it because she's not on the mixed relay team. But I believe she's in the medley team and possibly the 50m free. So I think she's maybe still got the two chances to do that. So this is a very big deal. And all jokes aside, I'm going to say this right now. I am happy for Cate Campbell winning the bronze. I am legitimately saying that I am 100% happy for her to see her do that. And I actually thought Bronte Campbell was older than her, but apparently it's the other way around. Bronte looks older than Cate Campbell. So she hasn't been drinking the right coffee of that. But did you watch this race for a certain somebody who finished fourth? Because I mean, I can imagine this is a big talking point that she's only, Penny's got to get one more. And in sort of the two chances she's had, she's finished fourth in both of them.


COLIN HILDING: It's a tough one. I think there were so few expectations for Penny in these games, which is because of the slump she sort of hit. But once she got going, we tied that record and most Canadians mispromoted it as even in Canada, we mispromoted as, oh, she set the all time record. No, she tied the all time record. She has to win at least one more. And we knew she had like three events to go. So I think we got comfortable like this will happen before the end of the Olympics. It wasn't even necessarily that she didn't medal. I mean, you know, that was one of her events in Rio. So we kind of hope she would. It's more now there's only one shot left, you know, and that's where you have it's that nail biter because we don't know if she's going to come back in Beijing and sorry, I'm not Beijing. She's going to come back in Beijing. Yeah, she's going to switch to speed skating. No, but but it's it's it's it's such a nail biter now, you know, is this actually going to happen? Is there a chance if she doesn't metal? Are we going to be disappointed? We're going to have to wait another three years for this record to be broken because now all sites on the record, even in her reaction after the after the relay, you know, we're kind of finished fourth. She was the one who was going on and on saying this isn't a disappointment. This is a success. You know, we should be looking at the success and, you know, previous to that, she had that famous comment where she says, yeah, I tied this record. That's great, but I'm not done yet. Last night, after she came in fourth, like her interview, it was definitely good sportsman like conduct, but she's like, I'd be lying to you if I said I wasn't really disappointed. So I think it's starting to kick in. Now, will that push her to be more competitive is the question. Like, I'm really interested to see what happens in this relay. She's not swimming bad. It's just there are so many people and she kind of commented on this on this after the relay. And she's like, you know, I can't, you know, fault myself in any way. I think I had a couple of things I could have done differently. But the competition I was up against, the three who are ahead of me, you can't, you know, you can't find bigger competition than that. So it's going to be a challenge now. But I'm sorry. Everybody wants that record broken.


BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I have to say that Canada have qualified fastest for the four by 100 metre medley relay. Now, Penny didn't swim the heat, so maybe she might not be in the final. I'm not too sure. But you guys will be starting in lane four in that one. Australia were the second fast, third fastest, I should say, behind the US. So we'll be right next to you in that one. So there's every chance there that Penny could go on to get that going on in that one as well. Jarrod will be joining us shortly. I've just heard word from him that he is going to be joining us very, very shortly. The one thing I want to quickly talk about before I talk about the other summaries, and I see he's about to jump on the line now. So this will be perfect timing. Actually, maybe I'll just hold off on this slightly just while he comes on here and I'll get his thoughts. There he is. Hello, Jarrod. Welcome to Off The Podium. Welcome back. Good to see your face again. How are you doing?


JARROD LOOBEEK: Good. Yeah, just got a little bit caught up in the Opals game, but good to join.


BEN WATERWORTH: There's so much sport happening tonight. It's been a very busy night. We just finished talking about Canada and I've sort of just mentioned, of course, our two medal wins today. We talked about it last night, of course, with Emma and Cate in the 100. Emma's come through to win the gold. Cate's got the bronze. How are you feeling after that race, Jarrod?


JARROD LOOBEEK: Oh, great. Happy for both of them. Almost got a little bit emotional with Cate's whole speaking to the press afterwards. So, yeah, really happy that she's been able to pull off another individual medal. It just feels like a nice way to potentially, I suppose, end her Olympic career, assuming she's not going on to Paris. So, yeah, just a really nice story and good ending to such a hyped athlete who has been, I suppose, really valuable for Australia in terms of the relays and everything.


BEN WATERWORTH: And the one thing I should mention too, I mentioned just a second ago, Jarrod, before you joined us, Emma McKeon's now eight Olympic medals. So she's only one away from tying Thorpey and Lisa was the most ever two away from breaking it. Cate Campbell's won seven. So Cate could hypothetically, should she be involved in the 50 or any of the, she wasn't in the mixed medley, but any of the other possibly the female one, she could also, so we could have four athletes in this games from Australia equal on nine. So things like that are pretty amazing. So it's kind of tricky that I feel this hasn't been talked up. Like Thorpey always, this was talked up, you know, I think when he broke the record in Athens, and even Lisa Jones talked up. Do you feel it's not talked up as much because both of these two have mainly won their medals in relays and some people just don't count them as heavily as individual ones?


JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think so. I suppose it's because every time they have their moment, it's with other people. So maybe that's why it doesn't stick out as much in people's minds. It doesn't feel like they've won as many. But I mean, ultimately a medal is a medal, whether it be a relay or an individual event. And the effort that they've put into the relays, some of those swims would have won medals in the times that they swam them in individual events. So I think it's all really relative to each other.


BEN WATERWORTH: The thing I wanted to quickly talk about in regards to the medals that have been won and where we're sitting at right now, obviously we are here on day seven. And so we'll be basically halfway tomorrow. But just looking at both Canada and Australia, and this is probably the famous Off The Podium curse right now that I'm gonna put on us. But we are both sitting very pretty compared to our Rio Halls. So Australia right now, we have already won more gold medals at these Olympic Games than we have in Rio and London. So we're on nine gold medals at the moment. So you gotta go back to Atlanta when we won nine. And as you and I were talking about a little bit last night, Jarrod, that was hailed as a huge success for us. And then kind of obviously Sydney sort of went out and destroyed that a little bit when we were in double digits in Sydney, Athens and Beijing. But even on the total medal count, we're at 22 right now, with eight days to go, nine days to go. Of course, the big thing is that swimming ends in two days. So obviously it legitimately usually slows in the second week, but that's still quite good really right now for where we're at. And for Canada as well, four gold in Rio already on three, Colin. Now you're at the halfway point of your total medal haul one in Rio at 22. So you're on 11 right now. But you've got to go back to Barcelona for when Canada won more than four gold medals when you won seven. And only in your history, have you ever got four or more gold medals at, by the looks of things here, four Olympic Games. So in 1904 in St. Louis, you got four. Amsterdam in 1928, you got four. Los Angeles, of course, that was a boycott of the Olympics, but you still got 10 gold there. And seven in Barcelona. So is this being talked about, Colin? I'll get your opinion on this right now. Is this like all- I mean, there you go. You're welcome, CBC. You're welcome to this information. But I mean, how is that sitting in your minds? It's three gold in, seven days in. I mean, again, usually three gold is what Canada has after 16 days. It's a pretty solid hole for Canada in a summer game. So I mean, how does that make you feel as a Canadian hearing that fact?


COLIN HILDING: I mean, I don't want to get my hopes up is the way it makes me feel. We definitely have more success in the second half than Australia does. There's a couple of events where I think that there's potential for a gold, but I don't know. I just don't want to get my hopes up at this point. I'm really thinking that Canada's probably going to end up surpassing our total medals from Rio, but I'm going to be doubtful that we're actually going to surpass four, or maybe even we won't even hit four for gold. But yeah, hey, I would love to be wrong on that.


BEN WATERWORTH: It's fascinating that we make jokes on this show about Canada not being great at the summer, and we're good at summer, and you guys are great at winter and that. But like, in all seriousness, you guys shit all over what we do in the winter games. So, I mean, but in all seriousness, it's a little bit different. I think Canada has a bit more of a summer pedigree than we give credit for, whereas Australia's winter pedigree is very limited, very, very limited. Jarrod, what about you? I mean, again, this is us doing a channel seven here, but I'm trying to do it as a calm channel seven, rather than just going, oh, look at us. Because like, again, realistically, in two days time when the swimming ends, we are gonna dry up and it's gonna be over to the team sports and maybe a sneaky athletics, bronze or silver here and there. So, I mean, as you and I both said last night, we never in a million years thought we would win 54 medals at these Olympics. But I mean, looking at our total right now, I think we can surpass Rio's 29 and maybe aim to beat London's 35. I think realistically that should be the goal here and is potentially potential.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I think so. And I think overall, I mean, we've been performing fairly well in the team sports. We said, I think, in like the preview episode that we had a good feeling about the team sports this Olympics. And I think so far we've been performing as expected in those sports. And there's definitely medal chances there. There's going to be individual medal chances in the athletics. So I don't think it's a stretch to say that we can definitely get up there with our Rio and London medal tallies and potentially eclipse them.


COLIN HILDING: Can I ask a question for both of you? I'll kind of get mine as well. It doesn't sound like either of us are that hopeful that there's that many more golds to come after this point. But if you have to pick, what do you think is your best chance at a gold in the second week?


BEN WATERWORTH: After the swimming? Cause I think we've maybe got- Yeah, cause I think maybe realistically in the swimming, there's maybe one or two. Like I think they talk us up in the mixed relay, although our heat time wasn't great and possibly the four by one medley in the women. So I mean, I think we could get a sneaky one or two in that. Possibly the 200 back with Kayleigh. We'll talk about that a little bit later. Look, as an avid hockey fan, I would like to think the Cookebaras can actually come through for their second ever gold. It's just, it's such a curse on Australia that we are the best team in the world when it comes to men's hockey and we just always choke in the Olympics. We broke through in Athens, so there's every chance that that could come through. There's a sailor that we've got that's, and we'll talk about him at one point, that looks like, and we always end up sneaking a sailing medal here and there that you never hear about until it comes through. I think outside of that, Jarrod, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I would like to think the Boomers could break through if the US don't do well. And I mean, the Boomers are due for a medal, so I really would like to realistically think we can at least get a medal in the basketball. But I mean, we've talked about this a lot, that there's always one that no one predicts and it comes out of nowhere. And I mean, track cycling, I should mention track cycling. Track cycling is always a pretty good haul for Australia too. So there's maybe one or two in there, but they're not really being talked up, I feel, these Olympics. Not many of our track cyclists have really been mentioned as big gold hopes. So I would think realistically, sailing, possibly hockey, maybe cycling, and there will be a sneaky one, like a Chloe, that will just come out of nowhere, that no one is thinking of. I mean, the Matildas might fucking pull out something out of their arse after today, I don't know. But Jarrod, I mean, I don't know if you're, what, if you've got any different thoughts to that?


JARROD LOOBEEK: No, I think similar, but I think in hockey, I just have this feeling about the hockey ruse this time around. Just been watching their matches, and it feels very calm and collected, and they're just, they're playing well, they're undefeated so far. So I think, for me, either the men's or women's team could win based on what I've seen so far, but I think I've just had this feeling that the women's team might do a little bit better this year.


BEN WATERWORTH: And they're traditionally the ones who always kind of save our bacon, right? I remember sort of back in Sydney and Atlanta when we were the best in the world, it was always kind of almost a solid guarantee that the hockey ruse would never let us down. And I mean, Athens to me is one of the greatest Australian gold medals of all time. Like seeing the Ku Klub arrows finally break through for that gold was just incredible.


COLIN HILDING: For us, I mean, I think Decathlon is the one that is the most likely for us to take a gold in. I'd be shocked if we didn't medal in that, but I think gold's a pretty good possibility. Other than that, like, it's really going to come down to is if there's a really good showing for Degrasse in either the one or 200 metre. I don't think he's considered the front runner in either, but he's like, he wasn't even considered, you know, necessarily a chance to medal in Rio and he ended up taking silver. The four by 200 relay, I think, might be our best option outside of Decathlon. But that's pretty much it. Like, I think there's a lot of chances of meddling going forward for Canada, but I'm not thinking that there's any golds outside of Decathlon.


BEN WATERWORTH: Is Degrasse a bit like Penny in the fact that sort of he's gone a bit quiet since the last Olympics and that maybe the Olympics is what brings it out of him?


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, well, Degrasse is a real competitor. They actually are very similar and even just the way they compete because neither are known for having great starts. They're known for, they know they have to chase somebody down. They will chase them down and come out of nowhere. But they've had very similar, I guess, careers since Rio as well. With Penny, her slump was more of a mental thing. With Degrasse, it was a lot of injuries and also being sidelined. Something that I learned during the, what was it, the final, Usain Bolt's final year is that the reigning champion gets to choose who he competes with on occasion. And he intentionally did not choose Degrasse several times because he wanted to go home as a winner. That was interesting. So he's been very cautious to not be in the media, to not do interviews, to not do a lot of speaking. But he's heavily like, you won't find any other athlete in Canada that has more sponsorship deals than him. He's like the sponsorship collector. Jamie keeps mentioning, oh, Andre Degrasse is some type of spokesman for some company. And I'm like, oh, is it this one, is it this one, is it? He's got three or four commercials on TV at any given time. But he's not one of these guys, he's not in for the money, obviously. For him, he's like, I wanna be the best. I wanna put all this money into my training. So as she's waving behind me, she heard her name drop. Maybe she'll have a segment later on, I don't know. But yeah, he's quite, it's hard to get a read on him, but you know that when he's in it, he's going to give it like 150%.


BEN WATERWORTH: And one thing I'll say is Bruce, Mr. Athletics himself, talked him up a little bit, I think in the opening ceremony, and Bruce is a smart man. So Bruce keeps an eye on these things. If Bruce is saying Andre is a chance, you never know.


COLIN HILDING: I believe Bruce.


BEN WATERWORTH: So you should. In terms of other medal results today, we should mention, congratulations, New Zealand, you got yourself two gold today, bro.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Oh yeah, bro, we got two gold.


BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, shoot, we're doing very, very well. Both in the rowing, the men's eight took the gold, and also Emma Tug in the women's single skulls, she took the gold in that one. In the other event of rowing, last day of rowing, of course, in the men's single skulls, the esteemed Greeks won it. I believe this is the first time Greece has ever won an Olympic gold medal in rowing. Stefanos Tuskos took the gold there, ahead of Norway's Jethil Borch and Croatia's Damir Martin. Germany took the silver in the rowing eight, and Britain the bronze. Rock Hannah Praxson in the women's single skull silver, and Austria Magdela Lobnig took the bronze in the women's eight. It was silver to New Zealand and bronze to China. Archery, oh, what a surprise. South Korea won another gold medal. Saint-Arne in the women's individual, Russia silver, Italy bronze. Athletics, we had one medal decided tonight. It just finished just recently as we were recording this. Selim and Berega of Ethiopia won the men's 10,000. You were watching that in the background, Colin. And Uganda, silver and bronze in that one. Badminton, it was gold to China, silver to China, bronze to Japan. In the men's K1 slalom, it was gold to Jiri Svec of Czech Republic, silver to Slovakia, bronze to Germany. Germany's had a very good canoe slalom week, it appears. Cycling in the men's and women's BMX, it was gold to the Netherlands in the men, Nick Kimmon, best Shriver for Britain in the women's, and silver for Britain, and bronze to Colombia in the men's. And bronze, the reigning two-time champ Mariano Pejon couldn't go back to back to back, but she still got the silver in the women's, and Merce Molder's Netherlands bronze. Fencing, Japan took the men's team, EPE, ROK, silver, South Korea bronze, still know Italy, they're still having a very bad fencing games. The women's trampoline, which we'll no doubt talk about very, very shortly. Zhu Yingzu, gold for China, China got silver, and bronze went to Britain. Judo, gold to the Czech Republic, Lukas Kraplek and Akira Sone of Japan took the gold in that one. Georgia and Cuba got silvers, France, ROK, Azerbaijan and France. Romaine Dicko, good host of Australian Survivor. Bronze there. In the rowing, I've already gone over that. Shooting, ROK, another gold for them. An Olympic record for Vitalina Batsarynka in the women's 25 metre pistol. Silver to South Korea, bronze to China. In the swimming, outside of, we talked about Emma McKeon, Evgeny Rylov went the backstroke double. He got the gold there ahead of, Ryan Murphy, I still like you as a TV creator. Silver and Luke Green back for Britain, bronze. Shun Wang in the men's individual medley, 200 metres for China took the gold. Duncan Scott, Britain, silver. And Jeremy Desplange, Switzerland, iconic swimming nation of Switzerland. Got a bronze medal there. Should mention in the women's 100 free. My pick last night, Jarrod, to look out for her. Siobhan Hawhe got the silver for Hong Kong. So two silvers for her, that was great. And a great story in the 200 metre breaststroke, Tatiana Showmaker, world record. Didn't everyone get around her today in the women's 200 breaststroke? Great scenes in that one took the gold. Lily King took the silver for the US, and Annie Laser Bronze. Can I just mention quickly, Jarrod, I looked at the medal tally in swimming. Australia equal first with the US on gold. They've just won a few more silvers. So I think one thing that would be great for Australia is to beat US in swimming. I don't know if we've ever done that before, Jarrod, have we?


JARROD LOOBEEK: Not that I can recall yet. That would be amazing. I feel like that's the goal moving forward in the last couple of days of swimming.


BEN WATERWORTH: I know we've beaten them in the World Championships. I definitely know we've beaten them at the Commonwealth Games. That's a common thing for us. Table tennis, men's singles final is the last event that is happening right now as we record this. I can tell you that China will win gold.


COLIN HILDING: And big surprise, it's China versus China, just like the women's.


BEN WATERWORTH: Exactly, Germany bronze in table tennis. And in the tennis, the doubles, the men's doubles, Croatia won gold, Croatia won silver, Nikola Metcich and Matej Pavić took the gold ahead of their countrymen, Marin Cilic and Ivan Dodlig. And Bru, New Zealand got a bronze in tennis! Marcus Daniel and Michael Venus. What a turn up for the books, Jarrod. New Zealand got a bronze, Bru! Did you call that one?


JARROD LOOBEEK: I don't think anyone saw that one coming.


BEN WATERWORTH: I mean, New Zealand did. I don't think they've announced it, to be honest. I need to check on the, I need to get the stats book, because this might be New Zealand's first ever medal in tennis, because they're not really an esteemed tennis nation. I'll quickly check over the book. I mean, Australasia won a bronze. Does that count? No, this is their very first medal in tennis. Fantastic. Get on board the New Zealand tennis train. It's starting up, Bru! We're gonna hit some tennis balls. Outside of the medal, quick touch on the medal tally, I should go over that as we speak. China back in front, 19 gold, 10 silver, 11 bronze. Japan, 17 gold, 4 silver, 7 bronze in second. USA, third, 14 gold, 16 silver, 11 bronze. A bit of a slow game for the US, only a third. ROK, our dastly enemies, 10 gold, 14 silver, 10 bronze. And Australia still sitting fifth place, 9 gold, 2 silver, 11 bronze, 22 in total. Canada are just outside the top 10 on the fact that Germany have won one more silver than you. Ah, the bloody Germans. 11th place right now, but you're beating the Kiwis, bro, because as I said, you've got three more bronze than they have. And San Marino still in last place, but that's good enough for us, right, Jarred?


COLIN HILDING: Well, they're not last last. I mean, the countries have won nothing.


BEN WATERWORTH: They're right. Well, I mean, medals countries. Colin, Mr. Technical. How did Canada go outside of the medals today? Give us some other results. And I guess you want to talk about- The medal today? Well, outside of the medal. Cool, sorry, I forget you only win one a day. Rosie, is she the talking point outside of all these other results, no doubt?


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, like again, I just looked up the Olympic website, CBC website, and the top headline is still Rosie MacLennan does not three-peat, doesn't even medal, which is unfortunate. I'll kind of start with that because before the game started, I, let's go back even a year ago, she was sort of the athlete that was leading the charge of we should not be going to Tokyo while this pandemic's going on. So she kind of became the unofficial athlete spokesperson during the pandemic. But even at the time, she said, you know, I can't tell you if I'm gonna be there in Tokyo for postponement year, but I think it's the responsible thing to do to postpone it a year. Coming into this, she had an ankle injury, which I asked you if they even talked about that on the Australian commentary. You said that they didn't, but I mean, it was definitely a talk about here because it was still bandaged up as you could see. It was, well, when we talk about what we watch, we'll get into it more later on, but it's definitely one of the big heartbreakers, not like a, oh, that really sucks, but just it's unfortunate because imagine the history that could have made if she had won three back-to-back gold medals after becoming the first Canadian ever win, first trampoline to ever win two back-to-back.


BEN WATERWORTH: Can I interrupt and ask, to really quickly interrupt, I believe she would have been the first Canadian to win three in a row in any event. Is that summer and winter? Have you ever had winter Olympians go?


COLIN HILDING: Any sport. There's only three Olympians, I think, who have ever won back-to-back medals. I always thought of like team, you know, but.


BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I was gonna say, because the women's hockey team won about one.


COLIN HILDING: Exactly, yeah.


BEN WATERWORTH: The men's at least won two. Yeah, okay.


COLIN HILDING: She's the only summer athlete to ever do it. And I think one of only three to have done it in any games. And not to mention nobody has ever done it in the trampoline even twice. So to do three times would have. She is the goat of trampoline. I mean, that's kind of the big talk about even, I listened to some of the British commentary and they were saying the same thing with her. But fourth overall, I kind of knew that China was going to take, if it wasn't Rosie, it would have been China for gold and silver in this. But the other Canadian that we had in there in her first Olympics, Samantha Smith, she unfortunately fell during qualifying. Otherwise she actually would have been in the mix as well. So some of the other stuff, obviously we mentioned, Penny finished fourth in the 100 metre freestyle, but still broke the Canadian record. So that's something. When we start talking about the Canadian records, you know that maybe we're drying up a little bit, but still good for her. And both, we have two Canadians advancing for the 200 metre backstroke, which is coming up in a matter of hours, 12-ish hours, somewhere around there. Kylie Masks qualified fourth and Taylor Ruck's qualified in seventh. But in the men's side, we just missed out on the 100 metre butterfly, Joshua Lindow. He finished 11th overall. Trampoline I already mentioned. BMX, this was actually exciting. I don't know if anybody expected us to be placing in the finals, but Drew Meckelson, I think is her name. She first Olympics ever, and she ended up finishing eighth. I mean, I was sort of just excited to see a Canadian there, and then once it was over, I'm like, oh, and we came in last, but good for her, you know what I'm saying?


BEN WATERWORTH: I've got words to talk about her in this episode. Don't worry.


COLIN HILDING: Do you? Okay, yes, I know you were very upset about something, or I'll have some comments on that. I won't go through all the athletics because it's very preliminary. I guess one of the big things I just want to say is I'm going to say the best name in Canadian athletes right now. Django Lovett has advanced in the high jump. What a name. Him and John Gay are battling it out for the best name here, but Django Lovett.


BEN WATERWORTH: Django Gay combined them together.


COLIN HILDING: Yes. Well, let's be honest. If it was John Lovett, not impressive. Django Gay, there's a name. Yeah. Oh, we've got two Canadians, obviously advancing a high jump. And that's exciting because somebody cost us Derek Drew. And thank you again, Ben. Otherwise, we could have had a back to back goal here. That would have been our best success in the second half. A big disappointment, I guess, here too. Again, not sad disappointment, just end of an era. Mo Ahmed has always sort of been in the mix for the 10K, which just happened a little while ago. And I think everybody was really, hopefully, he was really, hopefully, would have medaled. And he ended up finishing, I think, sixth overall. There was like a big surge at the end. That was an exciting event. But sadly, he's out. Big story, I guess, next to the failures we had. I don't want to call them failures. That sounds mean. But outside of the gold medal win for Canada, I feel like Canada won another goal just by beating Brazil.


BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, Dwight, you didn't know you didn't beat Brazil. But we lost to Brazil in Rio, didn't we? So I don't think you know. Or did you beat them for the bronze? Maybe you beat them for the bronze.


COLIN HILDING: I think it was the bronze, yeah.


BEN WATERWORTH: Because they were talking up how you beat them in Rio. So I'm guessing you must have beat them for the bronze.


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, and I mean, this is sort of become, women's soccer in Canada has become a big sport. So that, I mean, that was like right down to the wire. I mean, how many, what was it, like five kicks that they ended up going?


BEN WATERWORTH: So they go, yeah, five penalties at the end. And it was four, three on penalties.


COLIN HILDING: And we weren't doing well at the beginning. We missed the first one and it was looking like they were gonna beat us. But yeah, that was good. Sailing, we're still in it, I guess. It's a thing. Pirates helped them. I don't know, maybe. Rugby, we're not.


BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, that was heartbreaking.


COLIN HILDING: And we medaled last time. So I think this is one where we had expectations going in. But I mean, the France loss-


BEN WATERWORTH: One point, one point. You basically, Russia Olympic Committee had to lose, I think 34-0 against New Zealand for you to make it through as the best third place team. They lost 33-0.


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, so we're gonna end up playing for ninth and tenth spots, it looks like. So that's unfortunate. Diving, I'm excited that maybe in the coming days, I could break out my original flavor, Jennifer Abelios, for some trivia, because she's moved on to the top 18 for the three-metre springboard, as well as Pamela Ware. So we got two divers still in there. Equestrian, this is really exciting. Okay, Ben, I don't know if you're reading this thing.


BEN WATERWORTH: Calm down, it's only equestrian, come on.


COLIN HILDING: Oh, well, hold on. I'm gonna read you what is on the olympic.ca website, and you tell me if this is not a great headline here. So first of all, we have Colleen Loach, and I guess this is a horse name, Corey Blue Darjujs, finished 20th overall. But unfortunately, Jessica Phoenix had to withdraw due to an injury sustained by her horse, Pavarotti.


BEN WATERWORTH: Aw, not Pavarotti.


COLIN HILDING: I gotta see the ridiculous, the horse injured her? I wanna kick to the face or something like that. Like, we got like-


BEN WATERWORTH: Can we just get another horse?


COLIN HILDING: Well, this is injury sustained by her. The first time I read them, I'm like, oh, Pavarotti's injured. This is gonna be big news here, but Pavarotti kicked her or something? I don't know, we gotta find out. Update tomorrow. It's gotta be Pavarotti. If it's not Zoet, it's gotta be Pavarotti. Golf, I'll just kinda skim through this. We got some golfers in it. Field hockey.


BEN WATERWORTH: You're gonna draw in field hockey today?


COLIN HILDING: We did, that's what it looks like. Yeah, with South Africa. Shooting, finished 42nd overall. Linda Kichko, sure. There's a lot of excitement for the team sports right now and things that I think we didn't necessarily expect. The other big one right now is volleyball because Canada had their first win in men's volleyball and I don't think Canada's ever made it past the first round. But we beat Venezuela, which has us in a good position right now. We still have a chance at the quarterfinals.


BEN WATERWORTH: Well, if you beat Venezuela, you know you're winning the chance at the quarterfinals, traditional volleyball nation.


COLIN HILDING: We've beaten Iran and Venezuela, so that's exciting. So now the big one's gonna be, this is gonna be main event time here, 7 p.m. I guarantee CBC's main event coverage tomorrow night is gonna be Canada and Poland. Because now all of a sudden, everybody's gotten really crazy about the volleyball. So that's kind of our other main event that we had.


BEN WATERWORTH: I love the volleyball, usually the women's, but anyway. For Australia, before I go over some of the big team ones, and obviously there's a big result that's happened tonight that we're all talking about, I just wanna quickly go over, because I don't often go over some of the swimming heats, but given that I think they're kind of all done now, we've only just got finals left. I should mention a few of these. So tonight, the 50 metre freestyle for both men and women were on. In the men's, we only had Cam McEvoy in it, Jarrod, and unfortunately didn't make it through to the semis. Canada's got on though, Brent Hayden there, so we don't care about the men's 50s, but we care about the women's 50s, because this is where Emma McKeon and Cate Campbell can push for these records. Emma McKeon, not only was she the fastest qualifier, another Olympic record, if you don't mind, by Emma to get through to the semis. So thank you very much. And Cate, third fastest. So Cate can get sweet revenge. I think this is where she medaled in Rio from memory. I think she got a bronze, did she not, in the 50s. So I know she'd won one individual medal in that. And they look like there are only two representatives in that, so that's exciting. Good on you, Emma. Our new golden girl of the pool. But everyone would think it's just you, Ariane, right? Like, don't you love how Ariane's getting all the credit? And yet we've literally got Kayleigh McEwan, who could potentially win double gold in these games. We'll talk about her a little bit after. And then we've got Emma McKeon, who has just done amazing. She's won more medals. She's won four medals at these Olympics. Ariane's only won three. So why aren't we talking up Emma more? Why aren't we?


JARROD LOOBEEK: It doesn't make any sense to me. It's that, it's the double gold. It's the Ledecky factor, I think.


BEN WATERWORTH: We've won the 100, the 200, and the 400 in the women. So the 50 seems like it will fit. Obviously didn't win the 1500. And I don't think we're going to win the 800, but yeah, it's kind of cool to think that we've got that. In the four by 100 metre medley for women, I think I mentioned earlier, we're the third fastest qualifiers for that one. Again, sort of neither Cate nor Emma swam, neither did Kayleigh. So I'm assuming they might have been rested for the heats and potentially might be in the finals. But there was Emily Seabomb, Chelsea Hodges, Breanna Throssel and Molly O'Callaghan swam those. So they'll get some medals if we end up coming through there. In the men's four by one, we just snuck in. We were six fastest in that one. So we will be in the final. Canada got in too in the men's as well. So they were eighth in that one there. And in the men's 1500 metres, I'm so sad that we don't seem to have a good 1500 metres swimmer anymore, because this was the one that growing up, right? This is the one we always won from Kieran Perkins to Grant Hackett. This was our event. And now it just seems so long ago that we've had one right. Jack McLaughlin was our only swimmer in this. He missed out by about four seconds. A fastest swimmer, a Ukrainian. I'm not even going to try and Roman Chuck is his name. I can pronounce that one. But yeah, I don't know. That's just the one that I'm always sad, Jarrod, that we just don't seem to do well in anymore.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it is. It's the nostalgia factor, isn't it? And it's just weird how you can have so much depth in an event and then just all of a sudden those swimmers retire and there's nobody coming through. And you would think that given the publicity of that event, that there'd be so many kind of young people wanting to swim that event and emulate their idols. But it just it hasn't come to fruition that way.


BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, I'll talk about the other ones in the swimming final tomorrow. Team sports, so I'll go over some of these first. Right now, live on air as we're recording this, the Opals 10 points down against China. What happened, Jarrod? The Opals were kind of almost like a lock for a medal. I mean, it's been a while, but like, come on, Opals, we lost to frickin Belgium and now we're losing to frickin China.


JARROD LOOBEEK: In this match, we were behind early and we caught back up. And I swear in the last five minutes, just nothing we throw at the basket is going in.


BEN WATERWORTH: This is this is crazy that we have to rely on the men in basketball all of a sudden, that's things have definitely changed in our Olympic history. The big one, though, the big, big one, we talked a little bit about this last night about the Matildas and kind of the hopes and chances. But this was an epic match. 4-3, Australia won it in extra time, got the early goal. Sam Kerr, who else? Then Britain got one back. Then straight after half time, got another one back. Then Australia with Sam Kerr, once again at the death in the 89th minute, tied it up, fantastic. Then Britain got a penalty early on in extra time, a bit of a dubious call, got saved, great. We went from the other end to the other to get it, to score, to take the lead, then got another one. I missed it, I literally messaged you going, wait, did we just score again? Like I walked away and we're 4-2 up. Britain then get another goal in extra time, but we hang on, 4-3. I mean, this is our automatically most successful ever in men's or women's football at the Olympic Games. And as I said to you last night, couldn't come at the most perfect time two years away from us hosting the World Cup. So I mean, this is massive. This is such a huge result for football in this country.


JARROD LOOBEEK: It is, and I've said kind of like, they found their form like two years ago and they kind of lost it and they didn't have a great lead up to the games. And just this match, just having that many goals scored, being that back and forth, like you say, Sam Kerr, saving us at the death there to get it into extra time. And the fact too that we held out when watching this, like the Brits had so many chances, they had the lion's share of the possession and then we were still able to come out with the win. It was just, it was amazing.


BEN WATERWORTH: And we, I thought we were set to play Canada. I thought we were in the same bracket, but it doesn't unfortunately work that way. We have to play our rival, Sweden, who we lost 4-2 in the group stage. They defeated Japan 3-1. US are playing Netherlands as we speak, so the winner of that play is Canada. So all things go to plan, Canada versus Australia for the gold. Can we all cross our little fingers and toes for that one? Because I mean, I talk about it in all seriousness about how big it is for just a sport in this country. I mean, Canada obviously, what, got a bronze in Rio. Is that the first time you'd ever medaled in football before Colin had the women won a medal before previously in football?


COLIN HILDING: Why do I feel like they either did it in London or they just came up short? I think they might have just come up short in London.


BEN WATERWORTH: But like generally the Canadian women's team are somewhat successful. You're kind of generally up there. Our women's team has sort of gotten better over the years, but this is the furthest we've ever made in a major, major tournament, both men or women. I mean, I think Australia made the Confederations Cup final many, many years ago, but I wouldn't consider, I'm talking World Cup and Olympics, and I'm not talking about junior World Cups. World Cup or Olympics, we've never made it to a semi-finals before, men or women. So this is massive for the sport and couldn't come out at a better time. And great for Canada as well, on a day where your men's team bowed out in extra time to Mexico in the gold cup. So sad news there, at least on that side of things, but great for the Matildes.


COLIN HILDING: And we did medal in London as well. So yeah, we've had two bronzes.


BEN WATERWORTH: Well, there you go. We had been eliminated in our past two quarterfinal appearances in Matildes, but I mean, look, even if you walked away with a fourth place, which is probably realistically gonna happen, you would take it. I think Jarrod, wouldn't you? Yeah. Yeah. It's a big deal. So that was, I think, our main one there, but gotta say, the curse may have been put in the purse a few days ago for Kylie. The curse is well and truly out of the purse again, because our rugby sevens women went down early on to 14-12 to USA. I actually thought that wasn't too bad. I thought, well, okay, we avoid playing Britain. I think I thought we got an easier run at it, because the Fiji women haven't exactly been as successful as their male counterparts. And unfortunately, we didn't quite get there. I think it all came down to this misconversion when we got to try, because our girl, Charlotte Kaslick, got to try right at the death to put it up there. But because we didn't get the conversion earlier, we lost 14-12. I'm calling it, I'm the problem. I'm the problem. Any guest that I've been on an interview with has never done well. Collins, I mean, the two medals that we have won based on guests on this show, it's been solo Colin interviews. So I'm the problem.


COLIN HILDING: I interviewed, now looking into week two, I interviewed Aaron Brown. We know he's a good shot for the 200 metre and the four by 200 metre. Who did you interview on your own? Who was it?


BEN WATERWORTH: It was another Canadian. Yes, Brendan Rodney, of course. So all the other ones, we've not had a single dual interview out of anyone that's left, because Tom O'Haller and I did by myself. Brendan Rodney, of course. And that is all. Charlotte Cassellick will mention. You interviewed Kylie Masks. Oh, and of course, Max, still in the team event. So yeah, cool, great. Abdi's gonna win a medal, of course.


COLIN HILDING: If Abdi and Aaron Brown win, then we know it's bad. So come on, Abdi, come on, Aaron.


BEN WATERWORTH: It's definitely me, clearly, but it's sad, though, Jarred, because this is kind of one I thought we'd at least medal in. I realise we're not as dominant as we were in Rio, but I kind of felt like possibly a silver or a bronze was still possible in the women's rugby.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, this is one that, as you say, it felt like it was a lock, maybe not the gold, but yeah, definitely some form of medal, or at least getting into the bronze medal match going out before it was kind of not even on the radar.


BEN WATERWORTH: Which I have to say, we've lost to Fiji in both the men's and women's. But again, if you're going to lose to a country, lose to Fiji, right? Because we loved the Fijians when they won in the men, now back to back. Sorry if I spoiled that for you, Colin, if you haven't watched it yet.


COLIN HILDING: I saw it as soon as you were over.


BEN WATERWORTH: But good to see the women have success, because Fiji is just such a great country. Any of those Pacific Island nations, if you've ever met someone from any of those countries, they're pretty much the nicest people on the planet. They're nicer than Canadians, I will say that right now. And just to see the joy it brings to those countries when they can do so well. So Fiji will play New Zealand like they did in the gold medal match, but this is in the silver medal match. New Zealand, of course, are the hot favourites in the women's competition. And Great Britain will play France. God, Jesus, you want anyone, you just want Fiji to win. Like none of those other countries. I'm over France hate. So like, come on Fiji and France, go the F words. Beat bloody Britain and New Zealand. New Zealand, France. Outside of that, other results today. We had Lucien Delfort in the Knus Lala made the final. Finished eighth in that one, unfortunately. But actually, I think fortunately, because I think he was happy enough just to make the final there. So good for Lucien. The BMX, that was a bit of a interesting show today. Lauren Reynolds made the final, finished fifth. But our other hope, Sayaka Kabira, she was leading and doing very well in the semis. And all she had to do was finish that third race. She was in the lead and just had to cruise home. But unfortunately, she crashed out in a pretty horrific crash with, I believe, this American, was it Elisa Willoughby? Or the other American, one of the Americans, either Felicia Stancil or Elisa Willoughby. And unfortunately, went out. And this is where I want to say, if we have an unathlete of the day, I'm giving it to the Canadian Drew Milchson.


COLIN HILDING: Did I miss something here? You go ahead, go ahead.


BEN WATERWORTH: All right, I will, because I'm angry at Canada today. I love your country. But here is poor old Saskia, basically almost like literally look like she was just unconscious and flat on her face on the course. They cut away straight away. You see all these people surrounding her and like lifting it like they wouldn't even show the replays because they didn't know if she was OK. They cut to one of the American writers. And I don't know if it was the one that crashed out with her. She was in tears. She was like being consoled by people. And basically people were so concerned. They cut them to Drew Milton, who's seen she's made the final. She's like, yeah, thumbs up into the camera and celebrated. But somebody's dead on the course.


COLIN HILDING: Well, she wasn't dead. The way that you the way that you sold this in the chat, because I was sort of waiting for the finals, right? But the way you sold in the chat, you're like, oh, there's a horrible crash or whatever in the Canadians laughing about it. I'm like, I expected to go by and see that like somebody was there, I don't know, with one of their eyeballs hanging out of a socket. An arm dislocated, a head gushing blood. And then a Canadian sort of walks by and is like, hey, hey, mum, like, wait in the camera. This was like she wasn't even anywhere near it. She was celebrating. If I thought I was going to see a Canadian walk by and be like, haha, it wasn't anything like that.


BEN WATERWORTH: I think it just came down to the fact that like the way it was kind of been shown, because obviously it was the editing.


COLIN HILDING: Yeah.


BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I mean, because a live event, you're not going to show a replay in case someone's dead. I mean, as a Formula One fan, this is something they used to do back in the day when people were dying. Now they know not to cut to an incident until they realise the driver is safe. So this is kind of that thing. But like it was just the aura around it all that people are like, Oh, my God, like she's like legitimately hurt. And she's fine. She's completely fine. But yeah, I mean, you know, dick Canadians. What can we say?


COLIN HILDING: Well, let's ask a question. This this honourable best friend of hers, the BFF American, did she stop the race to check if she was OK or does she?


BEN WATERWORTH: The race was over. Well, she was like dead next to the Australian. She got up on a blackened road to the end and then she started crying. Maybe she was just being arrogant.


COLIN HILDING: Hold on a second. She was there as part of the crash, is what you're saying.


BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, shut up.


COLIN HILDING: So devastated by it. But you know what? I'll get back to you in a second, dying friend. I got to walk across the finish line. Cool running style. That's our hero.


BEN WATERWORTH: Typical Canadian can never be the bad guy.


JARROD LOOBEEK: She needed those seven points.


COLIN HILDING: Exactly.


BEN WATERWORTH: Well, she actually, by crashing out there, she missed out on it. And I think she ended up fifth, didn't she, or something, so she couldn't quite get into the final. Beach Volleyball, Del Sol, Atacho and Clancy were undefeated, but they went down to the Russian pairing, but they still make it to the round of 16. So that's good news there. Actually, just quickly, this is not an Australian, but I do want to seriously mention a New Zealander here in the boxing. David Nyakar won through to the semifinals against his Belarusian competitor. And I know I'm kind of a bit biased and toot my own horn about the whole boxing experience, but one of the nicest, genuine boxers I worked with during the Commonwealth Games, Nick Chester, a good friend over on our other shows, he works with his sister. And this was literally a boxer that Nick said to me when I found out I was working boxing. He's like, oh, check out this New Zealand boxer. He won a gold, I think, in Glasgow, and he's quite somewhat famous here in New Zealand as a boxer. Very nice guy. And in an Olympics, he will win a medal because he is now through to the semifinals. So it doesn't matter even if you lose in the semis, because boxing, you get a bronze if you lose a semi. So great story there. I really do like to see David go through there.


COLIN HILDING: You get a bronze if you... You get a bronze and you get a bronze.


BEN WATERWORTH: I legitimately messaged Nick straight away and I'm like, David. And he's all like, oh yeah, like he's telling me that their work is literally stopping to watch these bouts, because obviously he works with his sister. So it's kind of like, it's a cool little thing going on there. In the diving, we've got two Australians through the semis in the three metre springboard, which is exciting. So both Essa Quinn and Annabel Smith are through there. You mentioned the Equestrian. I can tell you that, what are we in the team? This is the three day eventing. This is another one of those events, Jarrod, that is sort of nostalgic. We won three in a row, did we not, between Barcelona and Sydney from memory? One of our best Sydney gold medals. Shane Rose is in 11th on his horse Virgil. Where's Andrew? Is he ridden yet? Doesn't look like Andrew's hoided up yet. He's still to go.


COLIN HILDING: He was also injured by Pavarotti. Pavarotti was on a rampage.


BEN WATERWORTH: That horse is a bastard, let's be honest. In the golf, Cameron Smith is tied for 20th. He's four under par. While our mulleted man, oh, that's our mulleted man, isn't it? The other Aussie is Mark Leshman. He's tied for 51st, one over par. Come on, Mark, pick your game up. In the rowing, I will say that we did, we were in both the eights finals, fifth in the women's and the men's, they were dead last. They were kind of like that Sudanese roll from last week. I feel like they cut away and went to the medal ceremony. Like, geez, pretty embarrassing. In the sailing, in the laser, so Matt Verne, we talked a little bit about him yesterday. He did not have a very good race today, finished 12th. But luckily for us, his nearest competitor, Pavlos Kontadis from Cyprus also had a bad one. He was in eighth. So Matt leads that by 11 points. And the medal race is on Sunday, but it's the way Channel 7 were talking up today. He could basically do well enough in tomorrow's race and he could potentially have already wrapped up the gold. So of course, that's the 470s, what we've won the last two gold medals in in both London and Rio. So every chance there. In the shooting, I think we were involved there, but we didn't do very well. In the trampoline, Jessica Pickering did not make it through to the final. She finished last 16th, unfortunately there for her. In the athletics, good news for the field events. You can always rely on our field events. Matthew Denny straight through to the final of the Discus. That was good, I enjoyed watching the Discus today to see Matthew Denny there. And the Yo Bro Pro Curse is still not dead because Brandon Stark is through to the final of the high jump. Behind Django, actually no, he jumped the same height as Django. They all did, that's the qualifying height. That's generally how it works, right? And we had a runner in the 100 metre for women. And if I can find her name and it's gone off my screen, but she did not make it through, which was sad. Hannah Bassick went through, apparently the fastest time ever by a woman since Melinda Gaynst of Taylor, I believe, in Sydney. So she was pretty proud with that. Edward Tripis did not make it through to the next round on the Stipple Chase. I believe he tripped us over maybe. And Katarina Bissett in the women's 800 metres also did not make it through the heat phase, unfortunately. I was expecting more from her, let's be honest, Jarrod. We all were, weren't we?


JARROD LOOBEEK: Oh yeah, absolutely.


BEN WATERWORTH: Hockey, it was a bit of a heartbreak for the Kookaburras. We were leading at one nothing all match, and Spain got a last minute equalizer. Didn't they celebrate, Jarrod? They acted like they'd won the gold. So still undefeated, the Kookaburras, but a draw against Spain, no mean feat. Spain is generally a very good nation in hockey. Rowing, I've gone through. Rugby sevens, I've gone through. Sailing, shooting, swimming. We'll talk about them what we've got tomorrow. Tennis, Jarrod, oh, it was heartbreaking.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, the Yo Pro Curse lives on. Um, oh. There were champions there, like they can't, oh. Like it was on the racket and just, I don't know. It's just so disappointing to go down that way. I just, I hate, I hate super tie breaks and just, it doesn't seem fair that it comes down to it. I'm like, just play a third set.


BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, I forgot that was a thing, but yeah, Barty and Piers, unfortunately down in the super 13-11, it was a great match. This is what this moment where I had the tennis going, the rugby going and the soccer going all at once. You know what's going to happen though for bronze, because big news, you two are happy. Djokovic unfortunately cannot win the Golden Slam because he went out in the semis to Alexander's Veres. He will play for bronze, but he will also play for bronze against us because the Serbian pair is going to be an all Russian final for the mixed doubles. So we're going to have the world number one women's player and the world number one men's player playing off their Olympic bronze in mixed doubles. Jarrod, this is a pretty cool final.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, that will be cool. I did love today, like, Barty going head to head with Reblev, like, from the back of the court. Like, it's just so cool to watch. And the fact that, like you say, we'll get the men's and women's number one players on the same court, on opposite teams. Like, it'll just be fun to watch those two go toe to toe.


BEN WATERWORTH: I wonder if that's ever happened before an Olympics. Maybe we can hit the research files and see that. And the only other result, the Opals right now are three and a half minutes ago, seven down against China, not looking good for the Opals. And the Stingers, 15-9, lost to Spain in the water polos. So their first loss, if I'm not mistaken. What else did we watch today, gentlemen? I'm gonna start with you, Mr. Hildo Hilding. What was on the agenda watching today?


COLIN HILDING: Well, the rugby, the soccer, those are obviously big ones. Everything we talk about, the rowing. I watched a lot. I didn't even realise. I think it helps that the two events that I absolutely had to see, the trampoline and then the 10,000 metres, I had, I tried to stay up for the trampoline last night, but I ended up drifting off during the qualification. But then I woke up and figured, okay, I can watch the trampoline now because I needed to finish the trampoline by the time the 10,000 metres started. Fortunately, Candice didn't do the medal in either of them, but it's actually a very similar story on both of those because Rosie MacLennan, obviously, as I sort of alluded to words earlier, nobody really necessarily expected her to win a gold medal again, but it became such a big talking point what if, because she wasn't expected to win in Rio. I mean, she also was recovering from an injury before Rio and ended up winning her second gold medal there. You know, nobody had ever won back to back gold. So imagine if she can win three back to back golds. This isn't even just bragging rights for Canada. This is officially, she already is the goat of trampoline, but even more so if she wins three. But it was the reaction like, you want to talk about Olympic moments that are sad, but great moments. If you get a chance, try and watch Rosie MacLennan if they show anything from her perspective. The Canadian coverage, after she had gone, you have the British girl who went next who ended up winning bronze. As soon as she was ahead of Rosie, I'm like, okay, that's it, Rosie's out of it. Because I knew that the two Chinese year olds were probably going to take one and two and they did. But you could just watch Rosie's reaction. They just kept cutting back to her after each jumper. I don't know what you call them, trampolinas goes next. And her reaction just keeps you.


BEN WATERWORTH: Athletes.


COLIN HILDING: I know they're athletes, but we don't call shooters athletes.


BEN WATERWORTH: It's a real sport, Colin.


COLIN HILDING: I'm the one who's bragging on the sport. This is like a national sport here in Canada.


BEN WATERWORTH: Anybody say don't call shooters athletes? I'd call shooter an athlete. This is an Olympian.


COLIN HILDING: No, no, I'm not saying they're not an athlete, but you don't call them, oh, the athletes. No, you call them the shooters, right? Like you're going to call them the runners. You're going to call them the swimmers.


BEN WATERWORTH: It's all right, shooters, I like you. It's all right, I'm sorry, Catherine Skinny, you didn't qualify for the Olympics because you interviewed with me, but still.


COLIN HILDING: But like Rosie MacLennan had been interviewed before the event and they were asking her, do you feel any pressure about the fact that you could become the first Canadian to win three back to back gold medals? And she says, I try not to even think about that because if I do, there's no way that you won't be let down. But you could tell she did because every time they cut back to her, there was just more and more disappointment. But she had tears in her eyes watching the other people go. But then as soon as the event ended, you realise like her tears were kind of, you know, sad that I think her career is over because she hasn't officially said whether she's gonna come back or not. But I can tell just from her reaction to this event, that was like her goodbye. I've never seen an athlete be disappointed while congratulating somebody before and had it look so sincere. It was actually a really incredible moment to watch her going around to the three that beat her. The really sad thing about this is that this will be now the first time Canada has not medaled in women's trampoline ever. We have, since Sydney, medaled in every single Olympics. I think in the men's, we've medaled twice. So maybe if the men can pull off another medal here, then Canada's streak of medaling every Olympics and trampoline will be a lie. But this is, I remember in Sydney, when we did medal, it was almost like a laugh. Like Canadians like, can you believe we won a medal in trampoline of all things? And then all of a sudden, you know, you flash forward 21 years later, and this is like national pride of Canada. Trampoline day is on, you know, people are watching this live.


BEN WATERWORTH: Me, meanwhile, the only gymnastics medallist has ever won at the Olympics came in Sydney at the trampoline, and we celebrate that as our only ever gymnastics medal.


COLIN HILDING: We're all bragging on the trampoline here. But yeah, that was actually, it was so, I don't think there's very few times that I've, when Penny came in fourth, I was just, oh, you know, it's gonna come down to one more race. She could break this record, but like, it wasn't even about Rosie MacLennan's record. Like when she finished, seeing that she did as well as she did with her ankle bandaged up, I'm like, okay, there's a shot at a medal here. And as soon as the British girl went next, and you know, I saw that her score was better. Like my heart literally sank. And if it wasn't for Rosie's reaction, I probably would have been in tears by the end of this. It was so disappointing.


BEN WATERWORTH: I watched it all. And I mean, I got to say our commentators are very complimentary of her. They kept talking her up significantly. So I was really glad to see that. So yeah, I was rooting for her. I got to say that.


COLIN HILDING: Even more sad, that's the only cereal that apparently I can't buy. I mean, we've got three boxes upstairs. We got Original Flavor, Jennifer Abellio's, we've got Honey Nut, Andre de Grasses, we got Multigrain, Penny Alexiax. There's no way I'm buying the Cinnamon Toast Crunch Matt Burgers, our skateboarder. That's cereal I don't want to touch. But I asked you, because I can't eat Lucky Charms. It's not gluten-free. Rosie MacLennan, of course, is on Lucky Charms, Lucky MacLennan's. And I asked Jamie when I was at the store, I'm like, they've got the Rosie MacLennan one here. Do the kids eat Lucky Charms? She goes, no, they don't really like it. I'm like, it's marshmallows, it's cereal. How do they not like this? I've tried to feed it before, it's just gonna go to waste. I couldn't bring myself to buy it. I almost want to buy it just so I could have the Rosie MacLennan cereal box.


BEN WATERWORTH: Your children are smart. Lucky Charms are disgusting. Can I just say that?


COLIN HILDING: It's not great, but come on, it's Rosie.


BEN WATERWORTH: Jarrah, before I get to what you watch, just a couple of quick updates. I'm not done. Oh, sorry, I thought you were done. Jesus, can I just give you some breaking news though? Give me some breaking news. The women's singles gold medal match in table tennis is done. And as expected, Ma Long won. She defeated her country woman, country men, sorry, these are men. That was bad, I was gonna say. 2021, I don't judge by gender. And breaking news, Canada's semi-final opponent in the football has not been decided. It is going to penalties. Netherlands and the US are both to all after extra time. And this is a bit of a boil over, because I think US went out in the quarters, I believe, in Rio. They're the reigning world champions. We know this is one of those gold medals they always expect to win in the women's football. But I'm saying, come on the Dutch! Get on there, go on your Dutch, get on the train, you know, Dutch train, toot, toot! Knock out, like I honestly don't hate America as much as everyone else clearly does in the show. But I can't stand this rap indie, whatever her name is, that she's so arrogant and just ugh. So stuff you American football team, come on Dutch! Sorry, Colin, what else did you watch?


COLIN HILDING: Quickly wrapping up, the 10,000 Metres obviously was the next thing I had to watch, which I was watching. As we recorded another podcast, you didn't hear me explode on that podcast, then Canada didn't win. Mo Ahmed's kind of like the opposite of Rosie MacLennan. He's never won an Olympic medal, but he's always like, oh, he's going to be in there. And he was very vocal going into this saying, I want this, I want a medal. I've had a career that deserves a medal because he is one of the best in the world. He ended up finishing sixth. The funny thing about this race, this is where I worried about these distance runs, how the heat was going to affect them. Apparently, the race itself was the slowest in decades for the Olympics, for the 10,000 metres, obviously due to the heat. But the last kilometre was the fastest in history. So I really can't wait to go back and watch over this because at one point it looked like Mohamed was actually in the lead. But the last thing I just want to quickly comment on is that it was just the heats of the four by 200 relay, mixed four by 200 relay. Did either of you see this?


BEN WATERWORTH: I didn't realise the four by 200 was an event.


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, it's debuting, but it's a mixed event. So they're doing it where you have like two legs, one leg where it's just men, one leg was just women, and then two legs where you can choose to mix it up. I don't know how I feel about this.


BEN WATERWORTH: It's a four by four? It's a four by four. Four by 200.


COLIN HILDING: Oh, sorry, four by four. Sorry, you're right.


BEN WATERWORTH: I was gonna say the four by two is a very weird relay length. I knew there was a four by four mix. So I'm thinking the four by two, I didn't realise I just had it at last minute.


COLIN HILDING: But yeah. But it was just weird. Like, I get the appeal of it. Okay, so A, we want to make a statement, men and women competing equal level and everything. But like, some people are gonna listen to say it's chauvinistic, but like the fact is that, not even statistically, like the men who are running are going to be running because they are usually under a certain limit and the women are naturally a little bit slower. It just looked bad in this race where you had one leg where every country put up a woman, but I think it was Nigeria decided to put a man up. And he goes, he's third coming into the transition, like third last coming into the transition. And then he ends up pulling so far ahead of all the women that he's got a 40 metre lead by the time they trade off again, which just sort of looks like, oh, well now we're mixing up the events, but now we're just gonna see the men blow the women away. And then as soon as they transition away from there, Nigeria falls so far behind that it was like Australia putting their fastest swimmer first, which I know you guys talked about yesterday, where all of a sudden they come in last and it's like, oh, well what a dumb strategy that was, putting a man against all the women and then it backfires the next one. It will keep things unpredictable where I don't think you're ever gonna be able to call a match because you're not gonna know who's coming up and who's gonna put a man up a woman. But I don't know how I feel about mixing them up in the running.


BEN WATERWORTH: Great. After our great conversation last night with Jarrod and I praise the addition of mixed events in these sports, now Colin comes along and just bags it out.


COLIN HILDING: I know, like I'm saying, I honestly don't know how I feel. There's some excitement to it. Where you're like, I don't know. It's just, you know that when you've seen these parts where you know the men are going to run faster, if we get a woman who runs faster, that's gonna be great. I'm gonna be like, wow, that's incredible. She ran faster. But we know that 95% of the time, just based on what these athletes have to qualify at, the men are going to run. And then it just sort of looks bad, like the women are being left in the dust.


BEN WATERWORTH: I, we talked about this last night about like, it's a big thing at the Youth Olympics, and they go even a little bit further at the Youth Olympics, how they do mixed nations, not just mixed genders, but I like it. I don't know. I think it's kind of, it adds an extra medal. I'm never gonna complain to an extra medal, and I enjoy what I saw in the swimming. So yeah, I say bring it on. That's my idea. Just also quickly, Jarrod, before I throw to you as well, I will mention in that 10,000 metres, Australia's Patrick Tiernan finished 19th. So good job there for Patrick. I love how here they're running this at 27.4322. Silliman Brega did it. My 10K that I did last year, I think I did in about an hour and a half. That was half walking, half running.


COLIN HILDING: And so, this is like, I do a lot of running, and 10K is my best distance. The closest I've ever come to a medal in local competitions was I finished fourth once. Oh, but that was my best. That was exactly, yeah, I've won a Canadian gold. But that was my best 10K time, and that was 48 minutes and 45 seconds, I think. So it just blows me away. And they're doing this when it's 35 degrees outside. Who knows what it is? What's the temperature right now in Tokyo?


BEN WATERWORTH: I don't know, hot. I saw Evan Dumphy on Twitter today was talking about how he's partitioned Canadian athletes because they finish fourth so often to get a maple medal. So he was talking that up for Rosie. Just quickly, the Dutch have had their first penalty kick and it's been saved by the US goalkeeper. So just like in the Canadian versus Brazilian one, it started off the same. Jarrod, what did you watch today?


JARROD LOOBEEK: Mostly what we've already mentioned. A bit of the athletics, the women's 100-metre heats, which were exciting. A couple of the field events, the discus, the rowing, the tennis, the BMX. Shout out to, actually, in the BMX, shout out to Lauren Reynolds, because I feel like she's just being completely overshadowed by the amount of coverage of Saia Sakakibara, which is not, not that that's unwarranted, but just, it was, it's almost like, well, we did have another athlete, Australian athlete, who made the final, finished fifth out of the field of eight in the final. Like, it's a really impressive achievement, and she just, zero coverage. Even watching it live, it was just, it's like, she's in the final here, you could mention it. But outside of that, the team sports, watching the Opels lose currently, the soccer, of course, but yeah, that was about it.


BEN WATERWORTH: I gotta say, quickly, you mentioned the 100 metres, I didn't catch it, but I don't feel we've talked that much on Shellyanne Fraser Price, the woman with the most names in the world, I think. Her fourth Olympics, of course, she went back to back Beijing and London, got the silver in Rio. And obviously, all the talk came over Usain for doing the triple. But I mean, Usain's not back to do the quadruple. I mean, I realise that she didn't get the gold in Rio, but I mean, she wins gold here, three gold and a silver. Like that's 100 metres. Like that's an absolute insane achievement. So I'll be watching that one tomorrow with Shelly and Fraser Price. Maybe, I think we're all set to commentate the men's, but maybe we can commentate the women's as well. Maybe we can add that. I will mention today, no commentary today. Unfortunately, we couldn't quite get out to the golf course, but we will tomorrow. Well, maybe Sunday. We'll delight Sunday. We'll talk about that a little bit after. But yeah, I watched a lot. Today was sort of, a lot was going on. And as I mentioned earlier this evening, it was kind of, I had three screens growing on all at once. It was very, very tricky. And I was, of course, watching the AFL because Carlton won tonight. We're still on a chance for the finals. I know you're both big footy fans, but anyway. Caught some of the rowing, the canoe. Had a bit of the archery going on for a little bit there as well. I'm literally watching the soccer right now. So yeah, that's kind of where I go from that. Athlete of the day. Now I've got a few potentials here, but I wanna, let's go to Colin. Colin's always like, who's your day two athlete of the day? Colin, you're catching up, aren't you?


COLIN HILDING: Well, I was just gonna say, I had said, because I wasn't on the episode yesterday, I'm like, what do you wanna bet that there's just going to be, no matter, this is like a day before, I'm like, there's gonna be a unanimous agreement of, oh, it's definitely an Australian for Athlete of the Day. And lo and behold, just Fox.


BEN WATERWORTH: You wouldn't agree with just Fox. Like that is like-


COLIN HILDING: Actually, I was gonna say, I don't say, okay, no to just Fox or whatever, but there wasn't even a discussion about- San Marino, I'm like, as soon as I woke up and saw the San Marino thing, I'm like, okay, they may actually go with San Marino here.


BEN WATERWORTH: Did you listen to the episode? She was close.


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, you blew it off. You're like, I guess the only other one in discussion is San Marino, but no, it's just Fox. Of course, Australia takes another Athlete of the Day on the day of the... I just wanna add, can I just add? I wanted to add one thing from yesterday. This isn't me putting up an Athlete of the Day, but there was another one you very much glossed over that you probably didn't see the event, which I would have made a big case for yesterday. Bobby Fink, whatever event it was he won. I don't know what exactly the discipline was, but he was an American who won. It was probably the quickest comeback I've ever seen in Olympic swimming history. So much so that they were just cutting to the reactions. I think they cut to the reaction of Caleb Dressel, who was sort of in the warmup pool watching it, where his jaws dropped because this Bobby Fink guy went in probably the last 20 metres from fourth or fifth place to winning. It was just insane.


BEN WATERWORTH: You didn't watch Stubbly Cookwin, did you? He did the same. Come on, look at you, bias against Australians.


COLIN HILDING: I had to give a shout out there. I was like, oh, okay, if I'm not on the episode today, I know another Australian is taking it. But no, I will say, I mean, I did think Jess Fox said that. I would have like a little more discussion on it though with San Marino.


BEN WATERWORTH: Well, can I just add, I wanna add to the level of the Jess Fox win and what that means to us in this country right now. We talk up Channel 7 replaying things to death, right? Like they've done that a lot with Jess, but like the difference is with the Jess Fox stuff, they legitimately showed today the whole race with like her dad's reaction and everything. And they showed him like tearing up everything, like I legitimately teared up watching that. And this is Channel 7 finally buying into that crap, like just the way they did it was so good. And like, shut up, Colin, this is our gold medal of the Olympics. This is the one we all wanted more than anything. This is like you winning gold in Vancouver. And meanwhile, by the way, USA have just gone through, so you're playing America in the semis. Good luck with that. But screw you, Colin, Jess Fox is an icon of this country. You leave her alone.


JARROD LOOBEEK: We just tied up the basketball, two seconds left.


COLIN HILDING: Oh really?


BEN WATERWORTH: Oh shit, you like the soccer, I'm on the wrong channel. Screw America.


COLIN HILDING: I was gonna say, you know, my, I guess, selfish athlete of the day would actually be Rosie MacLennan just because it like everything about that event and her reaction just tells me this is sort of it for her and the sendoff that she was getting. As well, Mohamed, who, you know, came in sixth in the men's 2000 metre. If I were to put up a Canadian athlete of the day, it would be him as well because I also have a feeling that this was like, okay, this is my last shot. I've never won a medal. And it was weird watching the end of the 10,000 metres because every athlete who finished was coming up and hugging him. They weren't going to the winners, the gold, the silver, the bronze medallists. It was like everyone, it almost felt like, okay, they know something that we don't. Like he said, I'm out after this. I really want to win a medal. And all of his colleagues were just like, you know what, you're the man. You should have had something to end your career with. But I'm telling you just from following a Mohamed, it's coming back in the next Olympics. So I'm not going to be selfish enough to say, yes, let's give Mohamed a send off for Rosie MacLennan. I do have a good one that I do want to put up though. And I think Ben might be angry at me for it.


BEN WATERWORTH: No, no, no, I'm angry at the basketball because I'm literally chipped it over. And with 0.6 seconds ago, it looks like we've fouled China. Australia are not happy about it. And they're going to get two shots here. Where's the foul? Okay, Australia is holding her arm. I think that's a foul. Stop complaining Australia. That's a fair foul.


COLIN HILDING: I think, Jarrod. I'm going to...


BEN WATERWORTH: She's holding her arm. How is that not a foul? I was in Australian E-Line saying the Chinese girl was fouled. Jesus.


COLIN HILDING: Well, I'm going to nominate them for Athlete of the Day. How about that?


BEN WATERWORTH: Go for it if you want to. And then what?


COLIN HILDING: I actually really worried about my reaction for putting up somebody from Great Britain for Athlete of the Day. Ben's going to say, I held off on it for Tom Daley, even though I think Tom Daley probably should have gotten a fair shake a couple of days ago. But the BMX, the woman who won the BMX, Bethany Schreiber, now you gave it to Kaylee for dropping the F-bomb. Did you notice she did the same thing, but didn't apologise for it after she won? Right into the camera?


BEN WATERWORTH: The thing I saw is her collapsing the British silver guy, picking her up without consent. She's literally like, oh, I'm dying. He picks her up and is like, yay, yay, yay. And then I saw her getting put down and she's literally like, I just need to sit down.


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I just need to rest my legs. Like, I think that's gotta be one of the great celebrations. But afterwards, once she was able to stand on her legs, she goes up to the camera, she autographs the lens, and she drops an F-bomb or something. No, no, no, but hold on. She drops an F-bomb there. And then the commentators, which were the British commentators, we apologise for the language, but she is very excited. But what I really want to put her up for is not just the fact that she won, and it was this great victory celebration. So I think that's half of it. But just reading up some of the history, we have said the idea of creating multiple sports for men versus women isn't the big issue. It's not like, oh, women have a chance at more sports because that hasn't been the big thing. A lot of the sports that there weren't female sports for was because there's not enough competition. You don't want to have two countries dominating every time. With her though, she actually made a good case where funding was cut for women's BMX in Great Britain. They said, we're only gonna fund men's because we only have the money for it right now. She took it upon herself to take a full time job as a teacher's assistant while starting a GoFundMe campaign just so she could train for these Olympics. Not only does she fund herself all the way to the Olympics, but she goes on to win gold by like a split second. Like that was just such a great story when I read that. And just sort of reading up a little bit on her, like a ton of personality and very few athletes have to go through that. When we talk to, not we, when I talk to you, so maybe there's a chance she'll actually come back. What was, oh, I'm forgetting the name now, the Nordic Combined guy.


BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, yes, him, yep.


COLIN HILDING: The Nordic Combined guy. When I talked to him and he was talking about how underfunded sports, Nordic Combined is like the most underfunded sport in Canada, it still receives some funding. He's like, you know, oh yeah, we look for donations and stuff like this. She worked a part-time job to get herself to the Olympics while starting a GoFundMe campaign. Like that's just ridiculous that there could be so little funding for somebody like that.


BEN WATERWORTH: I will consider it's possibly, but she's British. So if she actually, hang on, when I say she's British, is she English? Or is she Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish? Because if she's Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish, I'll have it. But if she's English, then I've got a problem. You look it up, Jarrod, your thoughts.


JARROD LOOBEEK: I will. I mean, it's gotta be Alexander Zverev, the biggest upset. No, like the biggest upset of like the entire games so far. Be somebody who was on like an absolute streak. Novak won all three Grand Slams this year, was on track to win the Golden Slam, hadn't faced, and like, I odor of competition so far on his way through. Won the first set 6-1, was just looking like he was just gonna completely dominate. It was up a break in the second. For Zverev to come back, win that second set, win the third set 6-1, it was just like massive achievement, and this is like, I mean, I'm obviously happy as not a Djokovic fan, but just anybody beating Djokovic on any level is just an amazing achievement. So I think it speaks for itself.


BEN WATERWORTH: Look, I'm gonna put mine up, and because we're all got different ones there, I like when we get different ones, but I'm sorry, Colin, I'm swayed more on Jaros, just because I love Djokovic. But I mean, it is actually, like, he sells that well. It is a pretty good story. And I'm sorry, other people have to fund themselves to get the Olympics, too. Suck it up, princess. Oh, I'm British, and I can't get to the Olympic, boo hoo. She won a gold medal. Colin's so angry.


COLIN HILDING: At this point, I'm just convinced that there is, like, a don't pick Colin's athlete going on behind the scenes.


BEN WATERWORTH: Hang on, you haven't heard Ben Waterworth, because I might sway you yet. You never know.


COLIN HILDING: Hold on, you are more swayed, but you just basically stated you are more swayed towards Jaros. His is based solely on his hatred for Djokovic.


BEN WATERWORTH: But no, well, I think Jaros sells it well, though, because he legitimately has a point. Djokovic has had no competition, and he's been on such a high- And this is one of the biggest talking points of these Olympics.


COLIN HILDING: Well, I'm sorry the gender equality in sports means nothing to Ben Waterworth.


BEN WATERWORTH: And also, I want to say, as I think I mentioned on the show last night, I feel like we don't always have to just choose a gold medallist. We can choose people who do things outside of-


COLIN HILDING: I agree, I tried to put up Kylie, and you shot me down.


BEN WATERWORTH: Well, Colin's getting emotional. People I want to put up there are just honourable mentions.


COLIN HILDING: You think I've just been racist against a Brit?


BEN WATERWORTH: So I'm about to put up a fucking Kiwi, all right? Hamish Bond, part of the Men's Aids, won his third gold. He was a flag bearer for New Zealand. And three gold for New Zealand is like 80 gold for Australia. I mean, that's a pretty big deal. I think he's about their third most successful Olympian in history. So that's a pretty big deal for him. The other honourable mention I want to put up is Tatiana Schoenmaker, the winner of the Women's 200 Breaststroke, their first female swimming gold since Atlanta. And just getting the scenes. Literally everybody in that pool got around her and like hugged her and like was just...


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, that would be a good alternate there, yeah.


BEN WATERWORTH: As a world record too. I legit, and the other one, this is kind of a two prong one, but mine will get to a minute. Sam Kerr would be the obvious one if we look at the Matilda. But I'm going to put up Tegan Mika because her saving that penalty really swayed that game to the Matilda phase. We went from one end to the other, got the goal, got another goal. So it really went our way. And if Britain scores that goal and that penalty, we're probably screwed at that point. I am putting up though, a Canadian, I'm putting up Stephanie Labay, the goalkeeper for Canada. They were getting routed by Brazil. They should have had plenty of goals scored against them. Then in the penalty to have the first Canadian penalty saved straight away. And then Brazil just went on a streak and thinking, oh, they're screwed here. Stephanie comes out and then saves the last two to put Canada through to the semifinals. So my nominee is Stephanie Labay, the goalkeeper for Team Canada. So we've all got three ones here. I'm not voting for the Brit. Sorry. So you're not swaying me on that. Unless I've swayed either of you to choose the Canadian, I'm voting for the German tennis guy.


COLIN HILDING: Well, actually, I was gonna say, I would really like to go with Tatiana because very few people react like that. And it's a big deal that in and of itself. But the fact that not only her own teammate was like coming over, but she was basically being swarmed by Americans who were so happy for her. Like, when the Americans are happy for you, you know you're the athlete of the day.


BEN WATERWORTH: But were the Hungarians happy for her?


COLIN HILDING: Hungarians are always happy.


BEN WATERWORTH: Our man, our guy the other day made it through to the final and he cracked like an inch of a smile. All right, well, let's throw out to Jarrod then. Cause I mean, if you just ran a vote for thing-o, we're gonna be kind of screwed there. So have you been swayed on Showmaker or you're sticking with Zavira?


JARROD LOOBEEK: You know what? I'm not budging. I'm over swimmers getting athlete of the day. And I think this-


BEN WATERWORTH: You know what, Margaret?


JARROD LOOBEEK: I think this is just like, this is a huge, just like this eclipses the Olympics. This is just a huge sporting moment that nobody saw coming.


BEN WATERWORTH: You know what sways me? And you know what sways me? A, I hate Colin and B, I'm sick of gold medallists winning our athlete of the day. And I realise the various could probably go on to win the gold, but today he's not a gold medallist, today he's just a finalist. And plus I'm sexist, I hate women. So, I'm gonna use that sound clip for my future. Ben Waterworth goes on to make it in life and all of a sudden they play that clip. I hate women, I hate them, all of them.


COLIN HILDING: They're coarse and rough and irritating and they get everywhere.


BEN WATERWORTH: They are, some of them are. All right, Colin, you're gonna leave us in a couple of minutes, so I'll let you quickly give us some of your-


COLIN HILDING: Oh, commentary. We can extend by a few minutes here. We can extend by-


BEN WATERWORTH: All right, good, all right, good. Good to see that we're working this out on live. Yeah, CBC fails and good stuff.


COLIN HILDING: First, before I get to that, I just wanna quickly update you. Jamie has been watching some of this with me and as I mentioned to both of you last night, she has some great alternate commentary, which is basically when I'm trying to watch it, she is talking about things that I've not heard. So where we were watching one of the men's swimming events, she just looks at the TV and says, you ever wonder why men have nipples? And I'm like, no.


BEN WATERWORTH: I legitimately always ask that question.


COLIN HILDING: She spent the entire race Googling why men have nipples. And then as I'm trying to watch another event, she's like, oh, this is really interesting. You'll be interested in this. It's like, apparently, she's talking about cat's nipples, apparently cat nipples. And I'm like, I have no idea what else she's saying, but she's giving me statistics. And afterwards, I'm like, I'm like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. And she's like, are you even listening to me? I'm like, no, I like flat out was like, it wasn't one of these things. Sure, I'm listening, Jamie. Yeah, I wasn't. I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm more trying to watch this. She's like, I'm here telling you very interesting things about nipples and you're not paying attention to me. And she wasn't making a joke. She was legitimately upset that I wasn't listening to her nipple story.


BEN WATERWORTH: And true story, to this day, Colin still has not seen nipples, so.


COLIN HILDING: But yes, so two commentary moments here. One was just sort of funny during one of the swimming events. I can't remember what the guy's full name is, but Duncan something. So our analyst, our expert or whatever, Byron McDonald, he kind of goes through all the statistics on people. And after all his introductions are over, the co-commentator was like, Duncan was checking his phone when you were introducing him, Byron. And he just sort of paused, like he was upset about that. Like, oh, I shouldn't be checking my phone during the Canadian commentary. He goes, making sure he didn't miss any calls probably. But the really good one, this will especially be a winner because of Canadian math. So during the end of the 200 metre medley, the play by play guy says, and they're gonna flip for the last 50 in the 100, four, five, 50. You know what I mean? The 200 metre medley.


BEN WATERWORTH: Sounds like our commentary during the week, doesn't it? Brilliant.


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, those are the good ones.


BEN WATERWORTH: Jarrod, do you have any?


JARROD LOOBEEK: No, I don't have anything particular. I feel like I've already just said, just like the overexposure in the BMX, like the fact that we had two athletes in there and it just really didn't feel like it. And they'd already kind of pre-planned what story they were going to run with. Just, yeah, I just thought that was a bit disappointing.


BEN WATERWORTH: The thing that I have with the BMX is whoever the guy is was a bit of a dick, because when What's Her Face is basically dead on the ground, at that point, we were worried for it. His go-to comment was, sadly, she won't be in the final. How very Australian.


COLIN HILDING: You all said we were worried about them, not all of us, not Canada.


BEN WATERWORTH: I want to say this would be to last, because I feel that's where it leads there. Our good friend Edwina Bartholomew, when talking about our sailor's chances that he has to do well and he can basically win the gold already. Her line was, oh, he can basically kick back with a cheese platter and a bottle of wine and still win gold. Very Australian there. They had Aaliyah Green on, of course, rugby seventh player who sadly got cut, one of the stars of Rio. She got cut very last minute. It was very controversial. They had her in the studio, and they're there going like, come on, what's your moment to the games? And she's like, oh, look, the men's Fijian team winning. I love it. You know, I was born in Fiji. It's such an emotional moment. To which then Edwina Bartholomew goes, yeah, but you also loved Jess Fox, right? And then I love her reaction. She literally says, yeah, well, I've had to see it a few times.


COLIN HILDING: That also, if I had been on the show yesterday, would have been my reaction. It's like, Canada, where are you gonna put up for athlete of the day, Colin? Yeah, but you love Jess Fox too, right? Right?


BEN WATERWORTH: Swimming. First of all, I have to say, happy birthday. 50th birthday to Lord Mayor Basil Zempelis. It was his 50th birthday today. So what a way to celebrate there. Now, I'm not too sure though about his little, we've talked about some of the chemistry in the box between Basil, Liesl and Thorpey. Liesl and Thorpey have been having a bit at each other. I know Basil had a bit of a comeback to Thorpey the other day when Thorpey was saying, oh, I don't like that. And Basil was like, oh, as long as you win. Today, it came from the form of Wang from China. So Thorpey goes, there's Wang from China. Sorry, Wong. To which then Basil goes, Wang from China. It just basically overrides Thorpey. Can we also point out that at some point during the 200 backstroke, after calling her the correct name of Kylie Mass throughout the entire race, Basil then goes from Kyle Mass to Kyle Moss, to which then Thorpey and Leesle both started calling her Kylie Moss. Not sure how that picked up there before. And then I also enjoyed Leesle Jones's explanation of backstroke swimming styles. So the swimmer from China was bouncy, Kayleigh McKeown was less bouncy, and Kylie Mass slash Moss was beautiful and smooth. So I prefer the less bouncy.


COLIN HILDING: Can we make that part of our commentary tonight, or is it just gonna sound terrible if we do it?


BEN WATERWORTH: I think so, you know, I think both maybe. And the one I wanted to point out with Nick Green in the rowing, similar to our New Zealand friends the other day with the archery, he said, oh, USA are so strong in the men's eights, they were fourth in Rio. Bloody great, weren't the men's eights. And I just have to have my little sexual innuendo bed moment of the day when Nick Green said, a delighted cocks there, why wouldn't you be? Just because I'm a sick individual. Before we look ahead to tomorrow and what we've got going, Colin, we took up your advice and went to the Sobeys. Feed the dream. Now we put in a message yesterday. I want to leave this up to you. What do you want to send a message to today? And then also we'll read a couple of these ones. What would, in 20 characters or less, what do you want to say to Team Canada as you get your breakfast right now? I see. Look at you.


COLIN HILDING: Jamie, which Cheerios is this?


BEN WATERWORTH: Jamie can't cook you anything. Has to bring you a bowl of cereal today.


COLIN HILDING: I asked her which Cheerios it is. She says it's André de Grasse, so it's honey nut André de Grasse's. Topped with blueberries, okay. André de Grasse topped with blueberries.


BEN WATERWORTH: Please tell your wife as well, I also wonder why men have nipples too.


COLIN HILDING: Jamie, Ben also wondered why men have nipples. Okay, so. It's really a cool mystery. I know.


BEN WATERWORTH: I actually have always wondered that. I need to message your wife and ask her about nipples.


COLIN HILDING: No, no, no, you won't. You can stop that right now. All right, so this is just all Team Canada, right?


BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, so this is a 20-some minute, share your message with Team Canada. What do you want to type in right now?


COLIN HILDING: All right, how about you go, Canada.


BEN WATERWORTH: You go, Canada.


COLIN HILDING: Stay bouncy, less bouncy, beautiful and smooth.


BEN WATERWORTH: Stay bouncy, less bouncy, beautiful and smooth. All right, can I just say, I was saying this to Jarrod yesterday, I used to shop at Sobeys every now and then, and I'm kind of jealous now that you can get these bags. I want one of the, I want Kylie mass on my shopping. Can you get me one if I buy that jacket and send it to me?


COLIN HILDING: Well, hey, it's the closest grocery store to my house, so I'm gonna be going there this afternoon now.


BEN WATERWORTH: Input your name here. Let's type in Colin Nipple. Your email, oh, I sent this on air again last night, Colin Hilding at gmail.com. That's where all the spam was from. So let's quickly have a look at Canada's messages. I should have really picked up the 66 pages worth, but let's just try and find a random one here. The Howe family. Damien, you're such an amazing athlete. London is cheering you on. Go for gold, Damien. Famous Canadian athlete called Damien.


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, he's our decathlon. He's most likely to win gold.


BEN WATERWORTH: Shirley and Rick, you've got this. Short and simple. I like it. Let's see here. What have we got? Erin Wright. We are so proud of all our Canadian athletes for training under such difficult circumstances and getting to Tokyo. Go Canada, go. Um, wow, Canadians are so boring. What happened to like, hi, this is Jenny. Did you get my message? Um, I miss those days. Oh, hang on. I wonder if this has been sent in by somebody who works for Sobeys. Isha, Sobeys is amazing. That's it. A bit of a self-advertising.


COLIN HILDING: Look at the savings.


BEN WATERWORTH: I guarantee that will end up on the damn quilt. All right, last one here. Juan Cruz, today's the day that you have dreamed. Do your best no matter what. You are a winner and enjoy the adventure. We will always be proud of you. Oh, so nice. Come on, get some stuff out there. What are our Australia moments of the day here? T-Miles, Olympics. We can vote for Zach Stubblely-Cook becomes an Olympic champion. Go Gobbledygook for Zach Stubblely-Cook. The Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay Winbron. At least the Olympic Committee can celebrate that, unlike Channel fucking 7. Fox wins C1 to become most successful canoeist. Or Barty and Piers advance to semi-finals. Well, that's a bit dated, that one. I'd go with Fox, come on. What does the Fox say? She gets the number one there. Tomorrow, I haven't even mentioned once at all today, Jarrod, because it's been obviously so well publicised in this country. Happy Green and Gold Day, by the way. The Australian Olympic Committee have promoted that very well, haven't they? Did you know it was Green and Gold Day today?


JARROD LOOBEEK: You know it, I look forward to that day every time it comes around.


BEN WATERWORTH: I did enjoy the AOC press release, where they were like, to celebrate several iconic buildings across Australia will be lit up green and gold. Every capital city, including fucking Darwin, was listed, and Hobart not even listed on that list. So there you go. But we have 21 events being decided tomorrow, and metal events. Probably the big one is the Women's 100m, as we talked about before. Also in the Athletics, we've got the Discus, we've got the 4x400 Mixed Relay, Colin's favourite event. And in the Swimming, I will say that a bit of focus going on tomorrow for us in some of them, because we have got in the Mixed 100m Medley Relay Australia, Canada did not make that. We have also got the one that we will be commentating on tomorrow. So our golf will wait another day. The 200m back straight, can the purse be put back in the purse? Can Kylie Moss break through and win the gold? She will be in lane six while Taylor Ruck of Canada. So two Canadians in it and two Australians, two Americans and two Chinese. So look at that, we've just got four countries in that, but Emily Seabom was the fastest qualifier for that one. Kayleigh McKeon was not quite up there. She got, that's another commentary fail I wanted to point out that basically Basil and that were calling her lazy because she got tapped on the line by Kylie Moss. Like, oh, lazy finish there by Kayleigh. So, okay, just a subtle dig there, but I'm looking forward to that one. The 800 metres, oh yay, Arianne. It's so sad that as a Tasmanian, I'm sick of hearing her name. It's not her fault, it's channel seven's fault. But Arianne Titmuss will be in that final, as will Claire Melverton, but Katie Ledecky, the favourite in that one. And we will have the final of the men's 100 metre butterfly, Matthew Temple is in that one there. Caleb Dressel, I just want to say, I forgot to mention yesterday, Caleb Dressel tees on the podium. I liked seeing that. That was a nice little moment there.


COLIN HILDING: It's actually quite refreshing to have a male American swimmer that you don't want to punch in the face, isn't it?


BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah. Hey man, what are you talking about? Like, what are you saying?


COLIN HILDING: I was telling Jamie when we were watching last night, I'm like, when I see Ryan Lochte's name come up with world record, all I think is if anybody breaks that, they are our athlete of the day.


BEN WATERWORTH: You know, I actually get a little bit nostalgic every time I hear his name. They're like, oh, world record holder. I'm like, oh, Ryan, there he is. I should also mention tomorrow for Off The Podium, we've got our biggest day yet tomorrow. I mean, Charlotte Kaslick technically is in play tomorrow in the placings, but we can scrap her. Sorry, Charlotte, that was my fault. Kylie Moss is back, of course, tomorrow in the 200 fly, but we've got our two sprinters. It's Colin versus Ben, Aaron Brown versus Brendan Rodney, who will do better? Clearly, Brandon's going to go out in the heats, but both will be running tomorrow. Are they, them along with Andre, you've only got three, or do you have an extra one that we've not mentioning?


COLIN HILDING: I thought Jerome Bleak might have been, but I'll have to Google that.


BEN WATERWORTH: We've got our Aussie that news.com Today, you reckons a medal chance, but I say I've got more of a chance of winning a medal in the 100 metres, but I'm excited that we've got four. We've got the next couple of days, we're quite busy. Literally the next two days, we have four athletes on the next two days. So no pressure, anyone. But obviously, medal wise, Kylie Masks is the only one with a chance of a medal tomorrow. We'll be commentating that one. Jarrod, I'll start with you. What are you looking forward to watching tomorrow?


JARROD LOOBEEK: I think it's probably, I would say the pool. It's gotta be the backstroke, the 800 metres freestyle. I just think, I'm over the pool, but these last days are obviously jam-packed with medal events. But then apart from that, it's the 100 metres men's track.


COLIN HILDING: Beautiful.


BEN WATERWORTH: Colin?


COLIN HILDING: Honestly, at this point, anything on the track is fantastic, even if it's just the heats. I was just glued to the heats last night, and I don't think I would have done that for the swimming. But kind of like Jarrod, I'm ready for swimming to be done, but just to see if Penny can win that last one, the four by 100 relay, obviously that's going to be a big one. But I don't know, there's no soccer on until Sunday now, so Canada's going to have to have a break unless we can pull off something other than Penny Alexiak. That's going to be all that Canada watches.


BEN WATERWORTH: I should also mention that New Zealand freaking made it to the quarterfinals of the men's, yet Australia didn't, so there's a problem going on there. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the 200 back. I'm also looking forward to the women's 100 and also seeing the men in the heats. Another one I'm actually really excited for tomorrow is the archery. Of course, Taylor Wirth is in the quarterfinals. He's playing Turkey's Mete Gezoz. So I'll be glued to that. I do love me some archery. So I'll be excited that the Boomers are back on the court tomorrow, we'll just have a good basketball team out there. Jarrod, we're playing Germany. So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. And also the boxing, our remaining boxer, Harry Garcide is playing one of my favourite boxers. I remember him vividly from the Gold Coast, Jonas Jonas from Namibia, the Jonas Jonas. Maybe I'll hit record on that one tomorrow and we can save that one for a rainy day next week to record Harry Garcide versus Jonas freaking Jonas.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Does Jonas have a middle name?


BEN WATERWORTH: Probably Jonas. Full name, Jonas, Jonas, Jonas. The men's quarterfinals are on tomorrow, so New Zealand play Japan in soccer, Cote d'Ivoire against Spain, Brazil against Egypt, Republic of Korea, Mexico, Germany didn't even make it through. So, shit, I might have to go for Egypt. Egypt or Cote d'Ivoire.


COLIN HILDING: That sounds so disappointed.


BEN WATERWORTH: Or Mexico. No, Mexico, raining gold, I like Mexico. Go Mexico. We've got some more golf going on. The Hokie Roos are back against Argentina. Sideway beat for gold in Sydney. So 21 years on, can Argentina get revenge? Probably not. Just jinxed it then, didn't I? Australia will play for fifth against Rock. So look out there. And yeah, Barty and Piers will play for bronze tomorrow. I mean, bronze is our first tennis medal since Athens, if we can go through that one there. But I'm going to say right now, good for me. If we lose, Djokovic gets the medal. I know he's won a medal previously in the doubles, I believe back in, was it Beijing? But yeah, and also the women's, can I say, you talk about the curse, the Ben Waterworth curse, I realise it's not an Off The Podium curse, like I did it for the brink, but Belinda Benchit, she can go for double gold. She's in both the women's doubles and the singles tomorrow as well. So you watch her win silver in both. Just saying. And the men's, the sharks can get revenge for the singers losing today in the water polo. The men also play Spain tomorrow. So there you go. But gentlemen, it has been a lot of fun. Colin, you won't be joining us tomorrow, sadly, but you will be on at least the commentary. So that's a positive, right?


COLIN HILDING: That's very positive.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Yes.


COLIN HILDING: Yes.


BEN WATERWORTH: And Jarrod, are you afraid of the swimming? Are you going to join us in the swimming commentary tomorrow or are you going to stick away from the chlorine as well?


JARROD LOOBEEK: Oh, I feel like I should. It's about time I give it a go.


BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, look at you. The burden of joining us at the Aquatic Centre. Likes on Facebook, follow us on all the channels out there. We appreciate all your feedback and support. Shout out to our newest fan out there. Why am I going blank on his name? This is really embarrassing.


COLIN HILDING: You're not important enough to remember the name.


BEN WATERWORTH: Kyle Charmers, thank you. That's his name. You know, Olympic gold medallist for Australia, silver medallist in the 100. I like one of our posts, so good to see brags, subtle brags that our Olympian friends love us. So Kyle, you're welcome on the show, so you won't have another chance of winning a medal ever again. And yeah, up to date with all of our great posts that we're putting out there. They're a lot of fun, and we appreciate everybody getting involved with that. I got some more Aussie heroes today, and I still haven't got Chloe Esposito, so I'm still very fricking sad. I got Oceana from the sport climbing, so there's something. But anyway, Jarrod, always a pleasure. Thank you very much for joining us.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Thank you, it's been fun.


BEN WATERWORTH: And Colin, maybe you'll get an athlete of the day eventually, so keep trying, champ. Keep that chin up.


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, maybe tomorrow.


JARROD LOOBEEK: You got the Hungarian swimmer, I don't know what more do you want?


COLIN HILDING: Yeah, exactly.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Come on.


COLIN HILDING: Oh yeah, that was a victory.


BEN WATERWORTH: You brought a smart person. Just remember.


COLIN HILDING: Can we just, hold on. Can we just put up Katinka now?


BEN WATERWORTH: No. Again, she was good in 2016, Colin. It's called athlete of the day, not athlete of the past.


COLIN HILDING: Athlete of forever.


BEN WATERWORTH: Athlete of the day, the day. Like in Beijing, you cannot put up Eddie the Eagle. All right, you are not allowed to put up Wayne Gretzky. Okay, just, no.


COLIN HILDING: Well, fine, enjoy your battle tomorrow for host of the day when I'm not there.


BEN WATERWORTH: I would never win host of the day, even if I was the only one on it. We know that. I can't, none of our guests win medals when they're on the show with me. Like seriously, I am the curse. Like I'm telling you now, if Bree, you're listening to us, don't go to Beijing, you're not winning the bobsleigh. I'm telling you now, you're not. All right, guests who I'm not gonna spoil right now is gonna appear on after Tokyo, who's a legitimate medal shot in Beijing. She's not gonna win a medal either. All right, I am the problem.


COLIN HILDING: I admit it. I am the problem.


BEN WATERWORTH: Jarrod, next interview, you're doing them.


JARROD LOOBEEK: I don't want that part out.


BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, well, look how it works out. Otherwise, just future Olympians, say no.


JARROD LOOBEEK: Just to interview Australian athletes, and then it's fine. You're interviewing the rivals.


BEN WATERWORTH: Americans, let's get all these Americans on the show. Zoe, Chloe Kim is our next guest on Off The Podium. There she is. Is Lindsey Vonn competing still? Yeah, we'll get them all on. Any American moguls, skiers that I should look out for, Colin, get them on the show. I'll do them. I'm happy to do it. Oh, look, I've got the Fela Point sisters on the line. Yay, I'm doing them as well. Hey, I would do them. Close the show, Ben. Thanks for tuning in to Off The Podium. We will speak to you tomorrow.

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