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Beijing 2022 Day 8 Review

Feb 12, 2022
64 min read

Get yourself locked and loaded for another medal winning day as we go over everything that happened on one action packed day 8 of Beijing 2022! Why are some of us cross at the snowboard cross but some of us not cross at the snowboard cross? Does it count to lose in a group stage match in ice hockey at the Olympics? How are we feeling on Narracott night? Why is Canada so depressed about the curling? What on earth do Harley Quinn and the Joker have to do with Ice Dancing? And why does Colin love skeleton athletes from the Ivory Coast? It's another episode worthy of a gold medal so get ready to put one around your neck and have another great time! 



EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

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BEN WATERWORTH: It is Off The Podium, An Olympics Podcast coming to you for day 8 of Beijing 2022. We're excited because it's Naracot Night. Yes, thanks Basil. I'm going to steal that from you as we come on air right now, minutes away from seeing Jackie Naracot in the skeleton, potentially either maintain her lead or choke, like some other Australians may or may not have done today, because as Australians, we're very excited. We're very pumped. We're over the moon to see how this will happen. And on the Canadian side of things, well, they got a medal today. So there's always silver linings for at least one third of our hosts on this show. And speaking of which, he's back. He's from Canada and he's still got COVID, I think. I don't know how long it lasts for. Colin, welcome back to Off The Podium.

 

COLIN HILDING: Thank you for welcoming back me. I don't know where we're going with this. And you overestimate CBC's coverage that we're going to be excited that we won a bronze medal because we're still showing replays of our disappointment and curling over the last two days.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Just curling? Talking about hockey today as well?

 

COLIN HILDING: There's plenty of time to be disappointed about that. We have a double disappointment and a triple now.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, you've got to love Canada. You win a medal and you're still talking about losing games. You sound Australian, actually. That's pretty good. You're focusing on the negatives rather than the positives. That's doing well. Speaking of the negatives, he's not one because he's the go to Off The Podium. It is Jarrod Loobeek. Jarrod, welcome back to Off The Podium. That was a good segue. That was an eight on the Jarrod scale there, I think.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, that turned around real quick.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: That's the motto of this show. Turns around real quick, often not in a good way. But we're obviously we're hanging on here for Jackie. Her first runs in about eight minutes. Obviously, by the time you are listening to this, you know what has happened. But we've decided to come on air to see how she goes in the first run. Whether or not this episode is about three hours long, you'll then know if we've stayed on air for the rest of it, but we'll soon see. But I guess just quickly, I know this isn't really the headline. We should be talking about Canada's medal, and we will because it was a great medal for Canada today. But just quickly, Jarrod, how are you feeling? How has your mindset changed at all having nearly 24 hours basically since we recorded and thinking a bit differently maybe going into this now?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: No, I'm still feeling pessimistic, but that's good because I don't have my hopes up. So if she wins, amazing. But you know, it's just kind of a vibe, I feel, with Australia today. Hopefully she can turn it around. But yeah, the other Australian results today went about as bad as they possibly could have gone.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, they did. We'll talk about that a second because I think we should talk about the positive from that little event today. The positive being that Canada did walk away or snowboard away with another medal. I'm not too sure. And the snowboard cross, I mean, technically, I'd like to say that I did predict a bronze medal in the mixed team cross. I did say that's for Australia, but you know, it's not going to go to Australia. It's going to go to our other part of the show to Canada. Elliot Grandin and Marietta O'Dean. Grandin and O'Dean. Are they related somehow?

 

COLIN HILDING: That sounds like the new cure for COVID.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: It does. Maybe we need to get some help. If only I had known them a week ago, then things would be different. But how are Canada celebrating this? I mean, again, you seemingly don't give a shit. They're too concerned about losing curling and hockey. But I mean, this is pretty exciting. Another bronze medal added to the tally.

 

COLIN HILDING: And it's both of their second medal of the Olympics, second bronze for Marietta and second medal for Elliot. I mean, I watched it and Elliot blows me away. The leads that he built up round after round after round was incredible. What I will say as far as just some of the reactions I'm seeing is, of course, the big story that the Canadian media is making it out to be is what an incredible comeback we had after Marietta was landed on in the finals, which, of course, that was the first way that it looked. And then on replay, it didn't look like she was landed on at all. In fact, the commentary was saying, Oh, I don't think she was landed on at all, but we'll have to look at another replay of that. But that's the story they want to tell. She was landed on and somehow managed to win a medal. And of course, you got tons of people replying, saying, Oh, the bravery is incredible. Oh, I cannot believe that she was able to do that. OK, there were two people who were out of the race and she just had to beat one. And they both got up and moved again because nobody was landed on. So a little bit overblown as far as like how dramatic this story is. But still, I mean, I'm absolutely thrilled that we were able to pick up another medal in the snowboard cross. I'm really hoping ski cross that we can at least equal this or dwarf it maybe.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, just keep an eye out, actually. Significant medal win this for Canada, your eighth bronze of these games. This is your second greatest ever Hall of bronze medals at the Winter Olympics. Only two behind your Pyeongchang record breaking Hall. So fingers crossed Canada can break that very long standing bronze medal record at the Winter Olympics. It stood for four years. I mean, how's Canada feeling about that?

 

COLIN HILDING: I mean, this is the first time I've heard about it, but I'm excited to be third best and not be winning any more golds. I mean, I think that's pretty much the goal is to not win golds and to clean up on the bronzes.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: It's like again, though, is this something that is worrying Canada? One gold. I know that I'm with you. I'm with you with the total medals. Absolutely. You are like third on the medal tally based on total medals. I'm on board with that. But like halfway point, Canada only having one gold in the Winter Olympics. Like if this was Australia in the Summer Olympics, we'd be sending out search parties to find our athletes to get some gold medals here. Like, I mean, this is you winning medals. They're just the wrong colour, Colin.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, it's so weird that I feel like past Olympics, this would have been a bigger deal. And I don't know why it isn't right now. Maybe it's because we are doing good on the overall medals. But obviously Vancouver, that was a travesty. Oh, we have to win the gold. We have to win the gold. Same thing with Pyeongchang. I feel like even in Tokyo, there was a lot more of a push of, oh, we haven't had that many golds. But just nobody seems to be talking about it right now. And I'd love to know why. I mean, I think that we're sort of up until this point really holding out hope that we're going to clean up in the golds and curling and hockey like we usually do. But that's starting to look a little less realistic now.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, at least one of those teams in the hockey, I mean, 11-0 over Sweden in the quarters of the women. I mean, just a lazy win there. I think you're going OK there. Jackie's about to come up. They're getting pumped. They're pumping the tyres ready. But we should just quickly mention in the mixed team cross, because obviously Australia, not too good, but great for America. Like, if Canada or Australia wasn't going to win, I wanted America to win, not just for Jacob Ellis with a second goal, but Nick Baumgartner. Now, this guy was one I literally sent you both a screenshot of like two weeks ago going, we need to keep an eye on this guy, because he looks like somebody would shop at Walmart, basically. But like, this guy's about 40, has won all these things, never a medal. He's just so much fun. They kept telling the story on Channel 7 about how he was FaceTiming his son at the opening ceremony, and he put on Shaun White. And now his kid's son, his son's friends think he's the coolest dad ever, because he got to meet Shaun White, not because he was an Olympian or like a world champion or anything, because he got to show him Shaun White. Now he's an Olympic gold medallist. And what, he's 40, Jack Bellis is what, 35, 36, might age of like 75, 76, and they just won an Olympic gold medal, like fantastic for them. And Jack Bellis has two now, and she did the grab at the end. She actually did the trick at the end and landed it. Jarrod, she did exactly what you wanted to do the other day. She did it.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: This was so perfect. I feel like we put her like athlete of the day too early, but this is vindicated that decision, because when they played the replay, and then I saw it, I was like, that is just the best. It's the biggest boss move you could possibly pull off. And the fact she landed it, that curse is gone. She's rewritten history books. No one's talking about 2006. It's all about 2022 now.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: She should be back in 2022. When I actually saw the live, the first time I kind of looked, it looked like she grabbed the ball, but no, she wouldn't have done that. And then when they showed the replay, I'm like, oh my God, she actually did it. But such a great story for her. I mean, not too often happy for Americans at the Olympics winning gold medals, but I mean, this is pretty good. Is that making news there, Colin, about Jacobellis and Baumgartner?

 

COLIN HILDING: Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, and of course, the grab was the commentators were all over that here. But yeah, I think that Canada, at least from what I've heard, is kind of on board too. It's one of those rare instances where they're sort of happy that the Americans were able to win and not those Italians. I mean, filthy Italians, right? Although I was sort of secretly rooting for the Italians as well. Like, I don't know, every time I see Baumgartner now, all I can think about is Wall Gardens. I think we were watching last night, Jamie even said, you know, he kind of does look like somebody would be a greeter at Wall Gardens. Now, let's just become a big thing in Canada. Let's just say she was labelling everybody. I'll just say that.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, that sounds so unlike your wife.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, she made me promise not to say anything on air, but there was some good, good Walmart style labelling of Jamie last night during the Snowboard Cross.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: All right, breaking news in Skeleton. Jackie is off. She's running. She's running. She's running. She's running. She's running. And she's flat. We'll just interrupt our commentary of the Snowboard to see how she's going. And she's not done the nick. Yes, she's off to a good start. She's gone straight through the pipe section, although she's nearly put the wall there.

 

COLIN HILDING: She's gone straight through it. What kind of speed was she picking up?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: How are you feeling, Jarrod?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Oh, nervous. Nervous, nervous, nervous. But she's doing well. She didn't... She got out of the starting gate.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: That's the main thing here.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Nobody's been tampering with her board. We didn't get that into the wall.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: She's skeletoning. She's skeletoning around the corner. The photographer taking a good photo there. See it later on in his Instagram. There's the Chinese official just turning her back to Jackie because she's protesting her winning as she's coming down the chute. That's the technical term, right? 120 kilometres an hour. She'll be impressed with that speed. It's faster than Colin usually drives in Winnipeg. Oh, she's got a great line coming out of that turn there. Doesn't even nearly go to the wall. I saw all the Latvians going... Oh, she clips them all. She crosses the line. It's a track record, if you don't mind.

 

COLIN HILDING: Oh, I swear I just heard you say, it's a trap.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: That's what they want you to do. That's worth...

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: She's going to make me stay up now. That's ruined my night.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, wow. 1 minute 179 was that? And it's track record, if you don't mind. Wow. No pressure at all there, Jackie. That was a...

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Such a clean run.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: That was pretty crazy. So that time to clarify was a 101.79. So that is actually half a tenth, half a second faster than her second run. And about three tenths faster than her first run. So, come on, Hannah Nisey, you go. The Germans are coming. We're not anymore, Jarrod.

 

COLIN HILDING: The Australians are coming.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah. Did you listen to last night's episode, Colin? That was a funny joke. That was hilarious.

 

COLIN HILDING: I mean, it's a day later. I'm laughing now. So I'm sure it killed yesterday.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Jarrod's given himself like a 10 out of 10 for that one. Absolutely perfect on that one. Back to the Snowball Cross. We should mention Italy to get the silver, Omar, Vincentin, and Michaela Maiolli. So I like that kind of at the end. He had the 2018 gold medallist versus the 2022 gold medallist. That was kind of cool. Australia, just what happened, Jarrod? I mean, you know, Cam and Adam got us off to a decent start, and poor old Josie just once again fell over and then-

 

COLIN HILDING: Blaming the women, just like you, Ben.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I mean, it's kind of hard not to.

 

COLIN HILDING: Didn't see the men fall over.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I mean, touche, like, you know, not trying to be disrespectful to Off The Podium's Josie Paff and Bel Brockoff, but they fell over. Which, I mean, it was a bit concerning for Bel, obviously, because she was taken off to hospital, and I believe she's okay. But all the Germans are, oh, shit. Breaking news. The skeleton. The Germans are coming, because Hannah, nosy knives, just put Jackie into second. Well, screw you, Germany. I'll take back all those nice things that I said about you once. Good early night. Yeah, well, all right. I'm back to sleep. How do we feel about the storyboard, Jarrod? Because I mean, they were both out. They both crashed. It was wow.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: It was just the worst. It was one thing just finishing in third or fourth and missing out. But the fact that both of our teams did not finish. And the fact, too, that they were in good positions at the time when they crashed out. I mean, honestly, I felt sorry for Lindsay, because both of our girls were just smashing Angela constantly throughout the race. I'm surprised that she didn't fall over. But yeah, particularly, I felt bad for Belle, particularly because she was out in the top two. They had a gap on the third person. Our other team was already out. She just had to finish in the top two. There was no reason to be skating like that, aggressive. And then just... I just couldn't believe how bad... I didn't think that we were going to get both through. The pessimist in me said neither. But realistically, I was like, I'll probably win at least through this round. But for it to end that way, the worst possible way it could have ended, it's just terrible.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I think Cam Bolton summed it up basically when he was just like, yeah, this was a pretty rubbish performance from our snowboard cross team here.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: From our women.

 

COLIN HILDING: This is what you get from making women compete in this event.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: You did think about Belle getting a fourth. I'm thinking, well, Cam, speak for yourself, mate. You know, Belle did get a fourth. You got a quarterfinals. But yeah, the thing that I did like is that Josie and Adam were still very, you know, buoyant and happy afterwards. I'm thinking like, well, your teammates kind of in hospital right now. We're so happy to be at the Olympics. Meanwhile, Belle's probably just like bleeding out somewhere. Oh, yes, the other Germans only in third. That's what you get, Germany. Sorry. But yes, so obviously disappointment there for Australia. But one thing I wanted to comment on the on this event, and I think Dave Colbert was saying about how in the World Championships, obviously what happens is as soon as you cross the line, the rider goes straight away and then they kind of obviously it's kind of like the lose in a way. Whereas this what they did, they obviously waited for like, I don't know, 30 seconds to get back to the top of the hill. Then they had the second start. I definitely agree with Dave Colbert. That would have been so much more exciting. As soon as the rider crosses the line, it's loose style. Boom, off they go. So Jarrod, I mean, what did you think about that? Do you think that would have served it better?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Oh, absolutely. I thought it was stupid how they had to like, they had to wait until everybody was finished and go back to the top of the hill and do the staggered start, which I think as well, the staggered start wouldn't have looked as stupid if it was just happening when people crossed the line. Like when you had like, I don't know, hundreds of a second between athletes and they're like, okay, we're all doing this staggered start all together. Ready, set, go. It's like, it's nothing. But at least if it was at the bottom of the hill, it would have been like a little bit more interesting. I get logistically that you could have issues if people crash out and they're in the middle of the course and then the next person's coming down, but obviously they manage it at the World Cups. So it just seems weird to me that they changed it.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I mean, you know, Michaela Schiffrin was still sitting by the side of the course. So I mean, they could have easily navigated. She was just there still. Hey, John Michaela, good to see you there. Colin, what do you think about that? Do you think they should have just like gone, boom, as soon as someone crosses the line, they just, the next snowboarder goes?

 

COLIN HILDING: Well, I mean, I haven't seen it on the World Cup, but my first thought was exactly what Jarrod said. I mean, I don't see there's any other way to pull this off, although I agree that would be a fantastic way to be able to watch this sport. I just want to say, as I continue to get made fun of for hating these mixed events, like I have not hated any mixed events since Tokyo. Tokyo is so bad in comparison to what we've gotten. And I actually am going to go even further and say that I'm for all these mixed events, but with a condition, I think that we need to stop having 17 relays. If we're going to do this again in Tokyo, imagine doing it with a little bit of adjusted rules like this. And let's just get rid of the regular men's relays, women's relays and stuff like that. Let's just let relays be the mixed events going forward. I wouldn't even be opposed. I actually heard Mike Harris talking about this with curling. I wouldn't even necessarily be opposed to, we no longer have men's teams and women's teams. We just have the team. We have the Canadian four-person team and the Canadian two-person team because it's not like there is necessarily an advantage, like there is maybe in swimming or in sprinting. But even having it be the staggered start, waiting for everybody to cross, the mixed events are fun. And I like that they're a little bit easier to call than what we got in Tokyo. But yeah, if this just continues to be a thing and we get so many mixed events, I feel like you will have to take away from some of the regular men's and women's relays in order to make room for them.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Now, you are right about one thing, Colin, and I do sincerely apologise. We have been a bit harsh on you and your opinion. You are right. It has been since Tokyo that you haven't made some comments. One Olympics. So, I mean, it's been a long stretch.

 

COLIN HILDING: How many hundred episodes, Ben?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: About three that you've been on. So, you know, I mean, we really do owe an apology. It's been too long.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, we're pretty rough.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: It is just terrible.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Do you like mixed aerials?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, that was the done one. That was one that even Jarrod and I got. No, mixed aerials. No, that's a no from us.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I mean, I wasn't like jumping on the moon, but I still prefer it over just the chaos of what we got in Tokyo. But like, you don't necessarily have to have mixed. I feel like you shouldn't have mixed events for everything. But if we get to the point where there are 10 different relays in speed skating for men's and then 10 different relays for mixed events, then it's just too much. Really, really should be the main event. That's the other thing I don't like, because I don't like having the I think was in speed skating. Speed skating where they did the relays, the mixed relays first. Like relays in any case should always be the main event. That's like you've done the individual events. Now it's time for the relays. It's almost like the big skating program that you use to showcase at the end of the Olympics. Like I don't want to see relays at the beginning anymore. Maybe there's a reason why they did that first in speed skating.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: It's interesting you say that because I always think that with the figure skating on that topic, that yeah, the team event should be the last event. That's kind of that. Because does that not give like shouldn't you have the individual ones going forward and then say the best ice dancing team will then go into the the team event? Like and you know, rather than having them all go out first. Because yeah, I'm with you. I think it's kind of a bit more prestigious to have it. I guess that's why, like in the curling, you've got the mixed team first and you've got the normal team. That's not appropriate. And the full teams, the gendered teams, not mixed. But yeah, it's an interesting one. It is. We're still on skeleton. Breaking news in skeleton. Jackie's still in second. So the other Germans are choking and now we've got the Dutch. Dutch don't do well in skeleton, right? This is a different type of ice for them. Obviously, outside of the mean, just talk curling and hockey, not curling for a second hockey. I mean, great for the women into the semis. Not a surprise, of course, just a small 11 nothing win over Sweden. Good job for them. But I watched this. This actually was on Channel 7 today. They showed the whole game. It was great. Wasn't a whole lot else on today, but they still show from start to finish. And props to Matt Nehmer for making it fun with the hockey in the brakes. That was kind of fun to watch. 4-2, USA won. What happened here, Colin? This isn't meant to happen. Canada doesn't lose to the USA. They haven't done it since Vancouver. But I mean, I guess what happened then? They went on to win the gold. So maybe it's just an omen.

 

COLIN HILDING: Well, yeah, I was about to say. But I don't know. I fell asleep watching it after. The second period was over last night when I fell asleep. So I kind of skimmed through to see the third period. I don't know literally what happened as far as you know, there's the Canadian goalie kind of fucked up on the fourth.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: He handled it and it fell in between. And yeah, it was he's bad.

 

COLIN HILDING: Like with he's very bad, bad goalie goalie. Yeah, I think that this is it's not that unexpected. And in comparison to something like curling, where you have teams that go in and they have all this experience because they always play together with hockey. These teams are thrown together at the last minute. And I was actually thinking, even before the game started yesterday, that really what we're seeing this preliminary stage, it's no different than the NHL preseason. It's almost meaningless. I mean, obviously there is meaning to it. You have to pick up enough wins. But as far as like getting how the teams are going to click together, it's not the first time this has happened. And there are keys you have to work on. And the other thing that's interesting, I mean, Claude Julien, who's the coach of Team Canada, I mean, he had tested positive before the Olympics. So he hadn't coached. This was his first time coaching them. He wasn't there in the first game. So I mean, he's going to be taking a lot of abuse right now as being the only thing that has changed. But I mean, if we're going to lose, I would rather we lose to the US than Germany. You would have been very happy, though. I know that your notes... Oh, yes.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: We talked about last night. Don't worry.

 

COLIN HILDING: Your notes weren't necessarily passed along to Channel 7, but CBC picked up on them because they did make mention of the Germany-Canada thing from Young Chang. Of course, they waited until Canada had the lead after the first period to mention it. But yeah, I mean, I'm not terribly worried yet because it is the equivalent of preseason. I mean, as long as we can make the playoffs, I think I'm comfortable. I think it's a very interesting team we have. I mean, there's a good mix of young guys, old guys, experienced players, not experienced, a couple of people returning from the last Olympics. And then you add Claude Julian in there. I mean, we have the recipe for success. We just need to see if we bake it long enough.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I do love the American coach, the former Rangers coach. Every time they cut to him, like whenever Canada go, he's got like resting bitch face.

 

COLIN HILDING: He's intense, isn't he?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: He's like the saddest guy on the planet. I'm like, Sam Keanu, eat your heart out. With resting bitch face, he had a really weird just facial expression going on there. Like that would have fit well in New York. No wonder he probably didn't last long at the Rangers. But we should mention China nearly beat Germany today, if you don't mind. 3-2. So this side they reckon was going to lose every game like 20-0, nearly beat the reigning silver medallist. So obviously Canada have got China to come. They've got eight goals to try and make up and hope that Germany knock off the US to lock in a quarterfinals, but they should still make it through because obviously if you're finishing second, it's sort of a possible quarterfinals. You've got to basically go through the playing round essentially. So they may have to play an extra game Canada now that they've lost to Team USA in that one. But in the women, yes, 11-0. Canada beat Sweden. So they'll play Switzerland on Valentine's Day, if you don't mind. While the US play Finland. Now the US beat Finland 5-2 in the round robin. Now Finland, you know, if there's going to be one team that upsets the top two, it's going to be the Finns, because the Finns did that against the US not that long ago, I think, in a game. So I know the Finns beat Canada, that great country, well checked in 2019. Yes, exactly. But I would love to see Finland knock off the US and then just be a Canada-Finland final because what Canada beat Finland, 12-0, 11-1.

 

COLIN HILDING: I haven't seen it in a couple of days, but I know there was a big deal being made about the goals for and against average of Canada. What's it at now? Do you know?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: For the women?

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: For women? I can definitely tell you that once I get the screen back up again, for sure. Don't bother. Canada in the round robins were 33 goals, four and five against. So with an 11-0 win, they would be now 44 goals, four and five against. Whereas Team USA were 24 and 20 goals, four, not the TV show, and six against. And they won 4-1. So they would now be 24-7. So yeah, okay. That's how it works. Jarrod, did you watch this this afternoon? I mean, I know you hooked on ice hockey after watching the women's yesterday. Were you hooked on the men's today?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: I caught a fair bit of it. Not all of it, but a fair bit of it. I think I got to where like the USA was up 2-1, and then by that time, I had other stuff to do. But it was a good match.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: The one thing, and this isn't just Ben sucks up to his employer, but I actually did really appreciate that they showed it in full, and they actually really talked up the rivalry between the two. So they actually really did push it out there. And I can safely say that I had no involvement in that. I'm thinking like, God, if I wasn't shooting, I'd be one there going like, this is what you need to do, pump it up, talk it up. So we've got a Canadian going on. This is Reneva, the one that choked yesterday. Oh, you're ahead of me. Well, that's in more ways than one.

 

COLIN HILDING: I was watching the American limping. I don't know what happened there. It looked like she was falling off when she was crossing.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: She's American. She probably got shot. The curling. So obviously both men and women lost today. So I mean, is this legitimately the thing that Canada are really worried about? Because obviously didn't do well in the mixed doubles. So I mean, because you've never not medalled in the Olympics if you take out 1924 when you didn't actually compete in curling.

 

COLIN HILDING: Um, well, I don't know. It's we we put so much on, especially Jennifer Jones, because of the undefeated Olympics in Sochi, which had never been done before until Italy did it this time with mixed doubles, but still has never been done in the team events. It's the Japanese loss. I think we could take. And it's funny because I wasn't on yesterday, but I had woken up like, I don't know, like 430 in the morning when a child was screaming in my house. It was mine. It was one of yours.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: But I wake up with a child screaming. My house, the cops come. There he goes.

 

COLIN HILDING: It's happened one to more one too many times with Ben, though. Um, it's different.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Quarantine. I have COVID.

 

COLIN HILDING: But, uh, yeah, I had fallen asleep during the ninth end, and I remembered having a dream that Jennifer Jones team lost, and it was the first loss they've ever had in the Olympics. And and what a big deal that was. And then I woke up and I'm like, Oh, I never got to see what happened. I realised that they lost. So I mean, I premonitions. I'm just I'm going to be really cautious about my dreams going forward, because apparently I could predict when they're going to lose. But the Japanese one, there was a nice story behind that. Jennifer was talking herself that when she was going through the mix zone, she actually overheard the Japanese team doing an interview and talking about, you know, I'm just really happy. I got to play against Jennifer Jones, let alone beat her because she's my idol. And she actually grabbed the Japanese skip and was hugging her. So I mean, I think even they were OK with it, because that's a lot of pressure to go in the Olympics. We were undefeated before. Let's just get one loss over and done with. The Sweden one, it's harder to take, but then you can also say, you know, reigning gold medallists. Plus, they're Swedish, so we know that they're superheroes now.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: And they're beautiful.

 

COLIN HILDING: Well, I just want to claim a bit of a victory here, OK? Because the Off The Podium curse is a real thing, as we've discovered. It has led to people being hospitalised now because of Ben.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: But crashing into walls, crashing on the snow, it's just it's happening.

 

COLIN HILDING: The only difference in the women's curling is that, as I point my finger at Ben, I wasn't intending to do that. But the only difference in the women's curling is that one person who was in Sochi who led to that undefeated gold medal is not here now. And that's Jill Officer, who is a guest and friend of Off The Podium. So if we're going to lose, I'm glad that it's not Jill losing. If anything, we could say, hey, if Jill had come back, you would be still undefeated. You'd be winning another gold medal.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: No, because she was on Off The Podium. So that's a connection. So I'm seeing here that Canada are in seventh place right now in the women's and in the men, you are fourth. So still in that medal contention in the men's.

 

COLIN HILDING: Same record, though. It's one and two for both, which is not a good start.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Is it? Saying here Canada are two and two in the men's.

 

COLIN HILDING: They've had one.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: But they've been Norway and Denmark and lost to Switzerland and Sweden.

 

COLIN HILDING: When you look at how it went in the mixed doubles, we were doing much better than this and it sort of fell apart in the end. So I'm really hoping it's not the same. Having said that, we've had some of the tougher opponents early here in the round, Robin, and maybe we're going to have an easier time at the end. I don't know.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, we'll keep an eye on that. Australia, we're doing better than we expected in the team's curling Jarrod. Haven't lost the match yet. So I haven't won one either. But still, that's pretty good for Australia, I think. So that works. Let's go over the medal results for today. And also a couple from when I say a couple from last night, the one from last night that wasn't decided. That was the skeleton, the men's. Nick did not win, unfortunately, but it could result for him to finish in 25th. But seriously, he feels so mean. I'm not trying to bag him out. I really enjoy talking to Nick, but he's memorable because he crashed into the wall, apparently. But the gold went, fuck Germany, won a gold in sliding. What are you talking about? Christopher Grunzer, or is it Grosthia? I'm not calling him Grunzer. He got the gold head of his fellow German, Axel Junk. And the first ever Chinese sliding medal went to Yang Weng Yang. So great result there for him.

 

COLIN HILDING: Poor Martin Dukers.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah. What did he get? Like fourth, wasn't it?

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah. I mean, he's the new latency Jacob Ellis. I mean, we're going to have to wait another decade or something for him to finally get a gold.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: He should have done that trick on the last start.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, exactly. If he had done the skeleton grab, he would have had the gold by now.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Bloody hell. Bloody hell, mate. Like, what are you doing? So that was one last night that wasn't decided today. We had the biathlon, the men's sprint. It was a goal to Johanna Sings Bow of Norway, Silva to Quentin Filion Mallette of France, and a brother, two brothers, on the podium because Taje Bow of Norway got the bronze. So the Bow brothers, the brothers Bow.

 

COLIN HILDING: And two Canadian brothers off the podium. The brothers Gull, Gow.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Christian was what, 14th, I think, and Scott was 34th. So the Bow's and the Gow's.

 

COLIN HILDING: That's the rivalry we need.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Gow Bow. Gow Bow. What was that? Wasn't that thing in the 90s? It was like the late night infomercials.

 

COLIN HILDING: I thought you were going with the Simpsons. Gabo, Gabo, Gabo.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, Gabo. Must be that same guy. Some guy called Gabo. Jarrod, were you a Taje Bow fan? Did you stay out watching Channel 10 at 2 in the morning to buy your Taje Bow tapes?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: I didn't. It's Taje Bow like some yoga thing.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: That's something. I think it was like a mixture between... Was that one that Chuck Norris used to advertise as well? Chuck Norris used to do one of those.

 

COLIN HILDING: That was the Billy Blanks one. It's basically a kickboxing exercise video. Jazzercise kickboxing.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: And I always got them confused with Tony Robbins. I was thinking, Tony Robbins selling me Taje Bow now? And then there was like that fricking crunchy one that you're like, stop working out really badly. Some like old guy going, oh, my back. And then it cut to like some buff fit guy going, yeah, man, look at my six pack. I'm like, dude, show a fat guy doing that, doing that. Don't show me fricking like Olympians.

 

COLIN HILDING: On the whole, as seen on TV, do you guys remember the ShamWow? Was that a thing? Oh, ShamWow. That guy was crazy.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: ShamWow's are the best. And then the Snuggie.

 

COLIN HILDING: The Snuggie.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: You know, I knew I failed at life. When I did the Hollywood Homes Tour, and we were going through the Hollywood Homes, and they're like, yes, and there's Simon Cowell's house. He has a massive mansion. See this massive mansion next to it. Like, guess who lives there? The person who invented the Snuggie. He just woke up one morning and was like, look at this dressing gown. I'm going to turn it backwards. Fuck, I'm rich. Like, seriously. If you met that, I'm sorry if it's a woman. Like, I shouldn't automatically assume that somebody invented something. They're a man. But the reason I want to hope they're a man is because the sentence I'm about to say. If I ever met that person, I want to punch him in the face. Like, it's just, hi, I invented the Snuggie. Punch. Just go away. Just stop it.

 

COLIN HILDING: Just punch him in the balls. Then it has to be a man.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I'll punch him in the sham-wow. So anyway, congratulations to the Bow Brothers. Sham-wow. In the cross-country skiing, Rock won the gold in the women's 4x5 kilometre relay. They defeated Germany, and Sweden took the bronze in that one. In the ski jumping, which has just finished, it is a gold medal to Norway. Again, Marius Lindvik took the gold. This is a large hill, I should say. Raúl Kobayashi, the silver, Carl Geiger for Germany 3rd, and Camille Stock 4th again. Talk about Jack Abel. I mean, I know the guys won 50 gold medals, but come on, Camille Stock, 4th? Who are you, Sean White? I'm just... I should mention Casey Larson did not make it to the final round. He finished 42nd. Great day for Off The Podium guests. But still, we love Casey. The reason why I don't think Jackie said yes coming on this show, so, you know... We do love Casey. Hello, Casey, if you're listening.

 

COLIN HILDING: Just quickly on the ski jumping.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: What would you like to say? Yes.

 

COLIN HILDING: Big victory again for Canada, for a sport that had no attention, for a sport that nobody cared about, Canada never placed well in. We did obviously cover live the team event, but this is the first time I think I've seen CBC just go to live coverage of ski jumping, like maybe ever. So interest is picking up, and they're taking this seriously.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I find it fascinating because Channel 7 was showing it live tonight. We've never been in bloody Australia, even remotely close to qualifying for ski jumping. So we're on board the Canadian train. We're just on that. I mean, obviously we'll go over the Canadian results more in depth, but Mackenzie Boyklaus was 33rd and Matthew Sukup was 49th. So the reigning bronze medallists couldn't back that up when it came to that. In the speed, we obviously went over the snowboarding, gold, USA, silver, Italy, bronze, Canada, in the mixed team, Snowboard Cross. And in the men's 500 metres, I don't know how Canada are feeling about this one, Colin, because you had a guy in this who basically had been on the podium in every single bloody event in the World Cup, and he got fourth. But it was history as China got their very first ever speed skating, long track speed skating gold medal, Gow Ting Yu took the gold ahead of Charmin Q of South Korea and Waturu Morishige of Japan. So an Asian podium there, great result. But so your guy, Laurent Dubrell, is it? Dubre, basically a shoe in for a medal, and he got a shoey Ron Ron fourth. He got the chocolate medal. What's going on, Colin?

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I want to revise my whole, I'm too afraid to name names now, because this was like one of our sure bets, and it didn't matter. I'm not to blame, obviously. This, CBC is very cautious with how they sell athletes' potential going into it. He had a video package before he went up. They were talking up, you know, reigning world champion, this many World Cup podiums, and it's all come down to this. Gold medal chances. It's not even like medal chance. They basically say gold medal chance. And it was like three one hundredths of a second or something like that, that he was off from even the bronze position. This was like a huge disappointment. And you could tell in the interview afterwards. I mean, he was really... They even said, you know, rarely have I seen somebody cross the finish line and look as disappointed as you did. He still has a shot in the 1,000 metre though, but I mean, this was his event. So kind of crushing. And that's really been Canada's struggle. I mean, if our medal total is down in these Olympics, it's speed skating. I mean, I think all of our bigger disappointments so far have come. Hey, we expected we would have picked up a medal here in speed skating. We expected we would have picked up one here in speed skating here.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Meanwhile, Isabel has just won two medals, but let's ignore her.

 

COLIN HILDING: Poor Isabel. She's a woman, Colin. No, I mean, we had Kim Butien with three medals last time. Cindy Claussen with five a couple of Olympics ago. Winning multiple medals, I mean, obviously, that's a big deal, but I mean, that's pretty much all we've had. And we're not seeing much. I mean, obviously, there's the men's relay that's coming up. So Hamlin, you know, has his shot at bumping himself up on the all time medal rankings chart.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: But he needs to win two more, does he not, to equal Penny, doesn't he?

 

COLIN HILDING: Well, he's hit five.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: We can't win two more now, can we? He's not in the five, he's only in the relay.

 

COLIN HILDING: But it would put him tied with Cindy Clausen for the Canadian with the most medals.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: For winter, yeah.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, and I mean, I can't remember if we even talked about this or not, but Ariana Fontana in the... We mentioned it, yeah. Yeah, like she's going to end up dwarfing the record if she keeps going like this.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, she got 10 now, hasn't she? She's won two at the Olympics already, so she's in the double digits. So she's Eclipse, Apollo and Vincent, Victor. Victor. Victor, thank you. I knew there was a V in there. But she's got at least potentially another one or two, I think, in her. So there you go. So we've got one more medal event to be decided, obviously. The Women's Skeleton, funnily enough. I'll actually just give a medal tally update now because I often forget this. So Norway, good day for them. They didn't win eight gold today. They're on total eight gold. They all bloody won eight gold today. They bloody win everything. What was our predictions for Norway? Like 52 gold, 72 silver, 33 bronze. Eight gold, three silver, six bronze for them. 17 in total. Germany second, seven gold, five silver, one bronze. You can tell the sliding event is going to run out soon. I'll see what the bobsleigh is. 13 for them. USA third, five gold, five silver, one bronze. 11 in total. Netherlands, five gold, four silver, one bronze. 10 in Sweden in fifth, five gold, two silver, three bronze. Canada, 14th with one gold, four silver, eight bronze. 13 in total, but they're third overall, if you're doing the correct way of doing it. Australia, we're in 17th, one gold, one silver, one bronze. Three bronze. We're still, like, if Jackie can get this gold tonight, we will go ahead of Finland. If she gets the silver tonight, we will go ahead of Finland. So no pressure, Jackie, that we can go ahead of Finland.

 

COLIN HILDING: Have you ever had two gold medals in an Olympics for winter?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, yes, we have twice. Salt Lake and in Vancouver. But we have never had more than three medals. So we're where this is our fourth winters in a row that we've won three medals. So we're looking for just one more. That will be our most total we've ever won in a winter Olympics. If we get one more medal.

 

COLIN HILDING: Now, can I just say if that happens, I am 100% on board with Daily Dale, going to Australia this time around, because that's record breaking. Now, we may not be on the air when it happens, but I will throw it out there that I think it could be amended because that is as history making as Penny Alexiak becoming the most decorated Canadian Olympic in the wrong Olympics, Ben.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, God, here he goes again. He's just, you know, just settle settle pedal.

 

COLIN HILDING: And I wish that there was a protest today that I could that I could put up in place of that, but I think it's fair.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I'm not going to deny that fact if it happens, because I 100% am on board, and I think it's groundbreaking on many levels, not just for the fourth medal, but for winning a fucking medal in skeleton. I think that's the big groundbreaking one. It would be for Australia more than anything. I mean, you talk about, you know, your Canadian ski jump is not training in Canada going to Slovenia. I mean, you've technically got ski jumps in Canada. They're just not worthy. We don't even have anything remotely resembling a skeleton track in Australia. At least with our snowboarders and our aerial skis, you can, you know, put up something slightly resembling a snowboarding course or, you know, we've got some snow, you can put a snowboard on it. You can't do anything when it comes to lose bobsled or skeleton in this country. So, but my only hesitation is, and again, this is holding out for shit, is that if Laura or Danielle wins a gold or Brie wins a gold, to break the Off The Podium curse. Which, me just saying that out loud is not going to happen. Well, I'm Ben Waterworth. That's all I do. Uh, that's my motto. Um, other results today, uh, for Canadians and Australians. Well, Australians, we don't really have any other results today, do we? Um, well, we just didn't have any athletes competing today. Um, Greta was on the, uh, downhill training today, which, um, judging on the results, Esther was 11th, uh, Greta was 28th, but having said that, there are about, I think, 10 skiers ahead of Greta who apparently, uh, they've got this lovely little, uh, three letters next to their name, a DQP, which means a potential disqualification. So obviously in training, they mustn't measure them, you know, correctly when it comes to if they miss a gate or not. So they just put it, oh, they might have cheated. So their time's a bit iffy. So I'm calling Greta was 18th, and Esther, I think, was seventh, uh, in training, because neither of them cheated. I'm looking at you here, Priska Nerfer of Switzerland. Um, typical Swiss skier, always cheating. Uh, good news is Michaela's shit friend didn't crash. So, um, she's on track to finishing two races at these Olympics. So good job for her. Uh, and there was also more monobob training today. Uh, Brie got second in the final training, and I think she was fifth in the first training. So, uh, Brie's looking good. Uh, Ben going down that track tomorrow. Jarrod, how are you feeling about Ben going down the track tomorrow with Brie?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: I'm feeling good. The first, um, practice run today was a bit iffy, but after that she corrected it and all the others have been fine. So I think she was just trying a different track and has decided, let's, let's not go that, uh, that angle around the corner next time.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Shaking out the cobwebs basically, just making sure that everything's, everything's going fine.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Lulling the rest of the field into a false sense of security.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: That's what you've got to do. That's a smart, that's a smart way of doing it. Um, in the biathlon for Canada, so the 10k sprint, uh, yeah, Christian Gow is actually 12th. Uh, great job for him. Scott was 34th. Uh, Adam Ranaus was 35th, and Jules Bernot was 20th for Canada. Unfortunately, all of Australia's biathletes were at home watching on TV. Um, in the women's four by five kilometre cross country, Australia did not have a team in that, but Canada did. They were ninth. So good job. Beat their traditional cross country skiing rivals of China. So I'm sure they'll be celebrating back in the lodge. So you're back in the lodge. That's they use that bond line. Yeah. In curling, as we know, Canada lost seven, six, six, seven to Sweden in the women's and four, seven to the men, which of course, we know with Oscar Ericsson sweeping, it's distracting.

 

COLIN HILDING: You just, you're going to lose. How can you not lose to Batman?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, what a man. Oh, I just want to, I just want to go sweeping right now next to Oscar sweeping with Oscar. In the Ice Dance, it's on right now. Breaking news in the Ice Dance. Just actually, we've seen the Canadian pair of Zachary Lagard and Marjorie Lajoie. They've just gone and they're in second right now. They've qualified for the next phase. Congratulations Canada, of course, defending the crown of Tessa and Scott. They're not there, Colin. Is there actually much talk about in the shadows of Tessa and Scott with them not being there?

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, because Tessa and Scott are in the studios doing CBC coverage of this now. So yeah, it's all over TV. And I think that's the first time Tessa and Scott have actually done anything together since.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I saw that. It was like the big reunion. They're being reunited. Did they have a fight, Colin? What's happened?

 

COLIN HILDING: No, no fight. But even when I interviewed Tessa last year, I have to say, it's kind of surprising. This is no knock against Tessa Virtue. But you go into an interview and you expect somebody who is at that level, who is one of the all time greats, to even when they step away from the sport, be like, oh, I still love everything. And I asked her on that interview, I'm like, do you still skate? She's like, no, not really. She had no interest in it. I asked her, do you keep in touch with Scott? Oh, yeah, definitely keep in touch with Scott. But it wasn't like she had this huge... Exactly. But it wasn't like she had this huge interest even a year ago in still being involved in the sport. So it's great to see her and Scott out there. And maybe they're going to make a surprise appearance and they're going to end up winning this thing again.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, it's just like us three. We hate each other outside of this show. We only just show up together. And every now and then I'm like, oh, Jarrod, how's the...

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: You only hate each other outside the show?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Touche, I'm sorry. I forgot about the whole me spoiling things for you. You haven't let that go, have you? I shouldn't talk about Colin not letting things go. But so, I mean, within all seriousness, Colin, you've got three pairs in this. So you've had one go. You've got Nicolas Sorensen and Lawrence Thoregnais-Baudry and then also Paul Poirier and Piper Gilles. Anyone talking up the likelihood of any of them getting a medal at all?

 

COLIN HILDING: Paul and Piper, for sure. I'll just name names now. I mean, that's one of what we're candidates considering one of our sure bets. They're on one of the cereal boxes. I'm trying to remember which one it is now. Unfortunately, I wanted to have my collection of cereal boxes this time around. Maybe I could still pick them up and send them to Jarrod, not Ben, since I hate him more. But the only one I can eat so far is the Cheerios, which they have multigrain Sarah nurses and regular Connor McDavid-Os. Mark McMorris is Mr. Cinnamon Toast Crunch, I believe. So there's Mark Toast Crunch. And it might, Paul Piper might be the Lucky Charms. Literally on the box of Lucky Charms. I can't remember.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I just, I still don't like, I love this North American obsession there is of putting people in cereal boxes, because it's not a thing here. Like they've done it, Jarrod. It used to be on Weet-Bix boxes, I think. You'd have like Brett Lee or like Tim Cahill on your Weet-Bix. But it's not something you see here much, is it?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: No, it's not like a collecting thing. And not for like the different, like it's, it's, you're right. It's always like Weet-Bix where there's just one type. But I like this, it's across like all the types of cereals. So we're just renaming them all after famous people.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I think, I think in Australia, it's just that Ariane Titmuss is at Harvey Norman. Go buy you kitchen top. Ariane Titmuss, there she is. How you doing out? Good, Ben. Enjoy your new stove.

 

COLIN HILDING: You have to tell me, though, were the Penny Alexiak cereals, were they stale by the time they got there, had they expired?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: They weren't. They were great. I'm going to say a couple of colons. Some of the best cereal I've ever had, actually.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Have you never had North American cereal before, Jarrett?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Probably not.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I'll tell you one thing. If I'm in New York soon, then I'll be shipping you a bunch of stuff.

 

COLIN HILDING: Now that you said that, you're going to be fat by Paris.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: They weren't sweet or anything. Probably the plainest cereal you can get, but that was just so good.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: But the plainest cereal in North America still got more sugar than anything in Australia, so that's the thing.

 

COLIN HILDING: They were sweet. Do you have multigrain Cheerios there?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: We just have Cheerios in Australia.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, and on the regular supermarkets.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, we just have Cheerios.

 

COLIN HILDING: Multigrain is the healthy one, but I swear it is way better than even like Honey Nut Cheerios or Apple Cinnamon Cheerios. If I find some multigrain Sarah nurses, maybe I'll send you a box, Jarrod. Just Jarrod though.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Expect them in December.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Expect them by Paris. My memory of the first time I went to America, when you go into a store and you see like all these cereals that you just hear about. And so I see Lucky Charms, you know, these things that I hear about on TV. And I just remember biting into half of these ones, going like fucking hell. Someone just poured a bag of sugar down my throat. Like there was literally ones where they were cookies. Like it was like a, you put like mini cookies in a bowl and you put milk on them. I was eating a bowl of cookies with milk. And I'm like, what is going on right now? I didn't understand it.

 

COLIN HILDING: They, I don't know if you have them there. Cinnamon Toast Crunch is one of the big ones here, but they actually released a French Toast Crunch, which they made gluten free, which is fantastic. But yeah, it took me a long time to get through that box because it feels like having dessert for breakfast. Jamie, though, as a treat to herself, decided to buy Captain Crunch, which is like, that's just sugar cubes that will not melt. You know, it's a problem with the advertisers here. It doesn't matter how long it sits in the milk, it will always stay crunchy. That's a concern to me.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, that's what I'm saying. Were you asking Jarrod, were they stale? You could have sent them to him and then ride by Paris 2024 and that would still be good to go. You know those videos when you see people put a cheeseburger from McDonald's on the kitchen bench for three years and it's still edible?

 

COLIN HILDING: Super size me the fries, yeah.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, God. Super size me just made me want to eat McDonald's. It was meant to put you off it, but I remember when I watched that for the first time. I said to my friend, let's go get some McDonald's.

 

COLIN HILDING: You know, there's the famous scene where on the first day or whatever, he has to order one of everything and he's downing, I think it's the McFlurry or something, and he throws up. And you just look at him, it's like, what a baby. I can take that.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: The worst I ever had for anything like that was when I went to the World of Coke in Atlanta and they've got the tasting floor. And it's like literally every flavour of Coke product in the world. And I'm like, challenge accepted. I was pretty sick that night. I can't imagine. When you're having over a hundred different flavours of Coca-Cola products around the world, your body doesn't like you for the next day. But yeah, bring on the McDonald's. What else do we have today? So in the skeleton right now, I mean, God, we might still be on air. They're still in the fucking first run, guys. I mean, it's only like number 13. Actually, no, hang on. What am I looking? I'm looking at the ice dance, Ben. No, here we go. Because I'm looking here going, why do they have double skeleton? We talked about this, but I didn't realise that America were leading in the double skeleton right now.

 

COLIN HILDING: Oh, I can't believe that they just did that twirl on the sled.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: The 21st rider is going down right now, DS. And we talked about this last night about the Brits. Britain have medalled in every single skeleton event at the Olympics since 2002. The Brits are not happy. I mean, typical Britain, who would ever thought that Britain would complain about something? They're complaining about the equipment not being up to standards. They're saying that it's the equipment's fault, that it's changed since the last Olympics. How about this, Britain? You guys are fucking shit, and you haven't done very well these Olympics. How about we accept that? Cool.

 

COLIN HILDING: Thanks. They're obviously not Scottish. Ben's angry.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, that's the English that are complaining. Come on. Like, the Scots, they don't complain. It's like, oh, fuck, we just fucked up. And they just move on. Like, I mean, come on. Scottish are tough. English pansies. The point is, Laura Diaz is in 20th. She just sucked right now. And Canada's Meryl Reneva, she did all right. She's back up to fifth now. So she's nine tenths off. So there you go. And I will say Jackie is 0.14 off the lead there for Hannah. Nice. Wouldn't be nice if she fucked up in that last run. So I'm trying something there. Ski jumping went over those results, snowboarding. There was another team in the snowboard. I believe that Canada went out in the quarterfinals as well.

 

COLIN HILDING: You did.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: So Canada too did not make it through. Canada too did not make it through.

 

COLIN HILDING: I wonder who decides the pairings. And if you would get somebody who's angry, you know, when you have two teams, let's say on your side, I mean, if it had gone, it doesn't really matter because the women just suck, right? But let's say if one of them was good, let's say if Belle crossed the finish line, and then you have, I don't know, the Sasquatch guy or whatever, I don't know who was paired up with her.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: It was Lambert.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, Bolton. So let's say Lambert's like, you know what? I would be a medallist right now if you had just given me Belle.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: No, so it worked for us because like we were only meant to have the one team. So basically, Belle got the spot because she was the higher place between the two. And then ultimately Cam got that because he was highest place. And then we got a second team last minute. So then, I mean, Josie was always going to be chosen because she was the only other female. And then they gave it to Adam because I think he basically of the two Adams and Jared did better. So that's how it was decided. So I don't know how Canada does it.

 

COLIN HILDING: I just mean when you have multiple teams though, and it's decided for you.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Who is one or two? Do you mean?

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, like it's different when you have only like when you when you do a relay and they just determine here's our six people, there's two alternates, there's four people. I mean, you know that it's going to be even one way or the other. But now we're actually deciding multiple countries. You have you this partner, you have this partner. I mean, there's got to be somebody who's kicking themselves afterwards saying, couldn't you have given me Johnny?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Maybe. I mean, I still firmly think that they should have picked Jared anyway, because they were the world champions. And I think they might have had some camaraderie. I'm not saying they don't have it with Cam, because Cam did well in, well, as well as he could. But there'd be criteria there. Jared Hughes posted on social media today basically saying, like, yeah, I fucked up. I did really shit. Like, I'm sorry. So, yeah. Did you see Jakar on the summer chill tonight, Jarrod?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: I didn't. I switched over to some live sport instead.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: That must have been interesting. No, I saw a little bit of it. They had Eddie the Eagle on the summer chill tonight as well. So there you go. But I was very jealous seeing everybody over at the studios posting pictures with Jakar in a gold medal. You know, I am stuck in this hotel. I was so tempted. I was just going to run over there. Like, I'll just give a COVID. How you going, Jakar? You're loud. They're chasing me out of there. Back to the results. Canada in the Pursuit team, Pursuit and Women's Speed Skating quarterfinals went through the second fastest, only behind Japan. But you beat the Dutch, Colin in the quarters. There's some hope for you there. Go through there. And in the 500 metres, as we've said, Laurent was fourth. But you had a couple others. So you had Gilmore Junior was 21st and Antoine Guilinès Belou Blabla. That guy, he was 29th. So pick your game up there, Antoine. Come on, mate. Doing Canada not proud. What did we watch today, gentlemen? Let's start with you, Colin.

 

COLIN HILDING: I watched the Snowboard Cross as soon as I got home last night. I then fell asleep to the Canada versus US hockey. I caught some of the men's and women's curling as well. Watching the skeleton currently. And I saw poor Laurent have his Olympic dreams crushed by an all-Asian top three.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Good job, Jarrod. What did you watch? You said you watched live sport today.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I caught the Snowboard Cross, a little bit of the USA Canada game and hockey, and also a bit of the speed skating, the men's 500 metres, and just a tad of the lovely ice dancing.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: In all fairness today, there actually wasn't a lot on in terms of it was spread out a lot throughout the day. So kind of what was shown was kind of what could be shown from at least what I could see. I'm not just don't look at me like I'm defending them. Like I mean, seriously, they didn't have much else to show. If they're showing ice hockey live on a Saturday afternoon, you know, there's not much to be shown.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: You know, there's not much on when now we have to get clips of Scotty James cheering for everybody on. And now let's go to Scotty's good luck message to every Australian athlete. I hope this continues like moving forward for everybody. And then also like the, let's now, now we're going to cross to Lydia Laszlo to go through the aerials and give her thoughts on how the team's training. Good work, Lydia. Go to break. Now we're going to cross live to Alisa Campland to talk about the aerials and how the team's going. Like, okay, so the same content we just got, but with a different person.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Just imagine them sitting down with Scotty James just handing him little place cards. Right, so this is Casey Wright in the cross-country. Go, Casey. You and I shared that drink together that one time. You're great. Go for top 40. The literature just recorded this for the AFL season. Go, Richmond against Sydney. You looked really good in last week's game.

 

COLIN HILDING: I think you should just be grateful that they're airing this and not the newest TV show CSI Miami. That's such a big deal over there.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I mean, look, to be honest with you, I wouldn't know if any new shows are coming up after the Olympics. I've not seen any ads. Channel 7 are great when it comes to that sort of thing.

 

COLIN HILDING: We talked about this during Tokyo. There was a huge media campaign around all the new shows that were going to debut after Tokyo. Not even necessarily literally like the next day, not like they have the post Super Bowl slot, but just all the TV shows that are coming in the fall. I mean, I've never seen so much promotion. I haven't seen one thing advertised on CBC as far as upcoming TV shows.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I wonder what that's like, Jarrod. I mean, is Dancing With The Stars coming after the Olympics? I couldn't tell you.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Is there a pun joke about Grant and his hiding there?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Is that SAS Australia returning?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Is Melissa Wu on SAS Australia? Is anybody else on it?

 

COLIN HILDING: Is she the only person on the show?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I don't know. Did Wayne Carey cheat on his wife 20 years ago and they bring that up again?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Is Melissa Wu short? Is that her defining characteristic?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I'll check when I return to the office on Tuesday to find out when these shows are returning. I couldn't tell you at all. But Colin, make the most of that.

 

COLIN HILDING: I'm disappointed because we had some good shows. I remember I mentioned even...

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Channel 7 has got some great shows, great quality entertainment.

 

COLIN HILDING: They're all great shows, especially CSI Miami. But no, we had the one Race Against The Tide, which was basically an extreme sandcastle building show that turned out to be really great, like surprisingly great. We watched it and Jamie was like, Oh, can you record this next week? So yeah, maybe we can have something. Before these Olympics end, I want to see advertisement for one new show that I actually want to watch here, because we're on polar opposite ends here, Canada and Australia.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: We'll get Race Against The Tide in five years.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: And holy moly, coming soon to CBC. Get involved on D-Lift Celebrities playing mini-golf in pirate costumes, Colin.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: That sounds amazing! The issue with all the after Olympics stuff is just everything pales in comparison to like the amazing like after the tennis and like the whole like quiet please after the tennis and then the commentators pretending to feign interest in the show that's coming up.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I always love Bruce McEvaney interest in what's coming up in home and away after the tennis was great. Like, oh yes, that Alfie's really up to some bad things.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Something's going on there.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I have to say I did catch a Ray Ma ad for some sort of circulation booster on his legs. Good to see old Ray's doing some bads outside of home and away. So Colin's going, what the fuck are these guys talking about?

 

COLIN HILDING: I'm just wondering if this third heat is ever going to end.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: There's a reason why. It's ended now. I'm seeing Baz and Georgie on my screen. That must have ended.

 

COLIN HILDING: We can give you the Daily Dale for tomorrow, because Heat 4 is only going to happen by tomorrow.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Can I just actually, I want to see if I can get this to Colin there. Can you just try and see the height difference between Bazel's Amplus and Georgie Parker right now?

 

COLIN HILDING: It looks like in The Lord Of The Rings when you have Gandalf next to the hobbits.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: It makes Bazel stand a little bit further back to make the perspective look a bit more on level.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I actually like, I want them to put Georgie Parker on a stool or something. I feel sorry for Georgie. They're standing literally like two metres apart. He still looks like he's up on a ladder. I know Bazel's tall, but I didn't realise Georgie's at short. So anyway, I watched the snowboard. I watched the ice hockey. I saw some of the speed skating, the ice dancing, which I want to talk about in a minute when we get to our daily day because I fucking love that sport. Skeleton, of course. And I think I saw a little bit of the biathlon on a highlights package, which was nice because I need to watch more of the biathlon. Our fails, I don't know if we just went through them there. Jarrod, anything on your side today?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Well, we had the lovely segment before the hockey with Matt and Emma shooting the fake hockey puck at the graphic goal, and then Emma caught a real hockey puck. It was so exciting. And then we had the lovely pun from Shervo of let's get the puck out of here. Other than that, we had also like the amazing moment in the Snowboard Cross when they crossed here. I feel like it was Cam's family like potentially like on the coast or whatever. And we had another great line of like wouldn't want to be swimming today. Everybody's at like the surf club. There's nobody out there patrolling the beaches. And then like the beaches closed, shark in the water, put out a shark alert, get everybody out of the surf, get them in here to watch Australia crash out in the first round of the Snowboard Cross. It was a good moment.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I like the banter between Steph Preb and Dave Colbert when they're trying to make bets. And they're basically like, Dave Colbert's all like, I'm on Team Canada here, like, absolutely. And it's just, oh, no, no, I think I might go for Team USA. It's like, oh, what do you want to bet on this? Like, tell you what, Dave, when you can give me an athletics lesson, if you say I'll give you a snowboard lesson, he's just like, I don't think that's going to be happening. Good banter game between the two of them there. And I also did like M. Freeman's little joke there when she had the hockey stick there next to Shervo. And basically, she's like, I didn't realise the hockey stick was taller than me, which it was. Anyway, Colin, any fails from you?

 

COLIN HILDING: No, I was too tired when I was watching everything last night to really pay attention. But did you mention what was on from the previous day that I sent you the CBC screenshot with the...

 

BEN WATERWORTH: No, we did not, actually. You can update us on that, Colin.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, because I had only seen it. I hadn't heard the commentary, but this is from the previous day. So CBC decided to put a nice graphic on the screen during Shaun White's, right before his final run, which ran through notable events. Even the commentators were like, fail at launch. Wow, that's classic. Who put that together? I would love for this to have been like a Ben Waterworth thing. Whoever is the Ben Waterworth of Canada that decided they wanted to throw Sarah Jessica Parker, this has to be an in-joke, where they decided we want to throw a launch joke reference out there during the monumental final run of Shaun White.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I actually would like to know who the Ben Waterworth of Canada is.

 

COLIN HILDING: Well, it's not Devin Haroux. I mean, he's good.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, he's the Jarrod Lubik of Canada. Come on.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, he's the GOATS.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: What a man. We were talking about that yesterday with other Ben.

 

COLIN HILDING: Hold on. We've got the greatest researcher of all time. You could be the GROOT.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: The GROUT. Well, isn't that what you find in between the tiles when you're in a shower? No? That's it. Jarrod knows.

 

COLIN HILDING: That's a Jarrod fact.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Failure to launch. Coming to 7 after the Olympics. Finally getting it. And as a justice for Pluto. I'm sorry. I'm not over that.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: No one is. No one is. It's one of these things that I feel that it's all of a sudden, it's got to come back in. It's all of a sudden like somebody's going to wake up one day. It's going to be like Pluto is a planet again. Like who are scientists to tell Pluto what it is? Are you defining its planetary status? You know, it can identify whatever it wants to. It wants to identify as a planet.

 

COLIN HILDING: Why do humans get better rights than planets?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I think a planet is bigger than a human.

 

COLIN HILDING: Come on now.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Get Jupiter involved. Jupiter would shit all over any human, literally kill them in a heartbeat. What is our day of celebration, Colin? I don't know what mine is. Australia is. I actually know what yours is supposed to be today. Do you have it? I'm going to let you read it. You're the Canadian. It sounds better with a Canadian voice.

 

COLIN HILDING: So because I wasn't here yesterday, what was yesterday?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yesterday was the Cindy Clausen day. So today, I miss Cindy Clausen day. It's the bobsled team day.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yes. So this is exciting because this is Canada's Cool Runnings, basically, and not the fact that the Cool Runnings movie decided to create a fictional character who is a cheat. That timeline matched up with this so that people thought that that was real. This is the real Canadian Cool Running. So Team Emery came into the 1964 Olympics as the first. This is like the Nigerian skeleton. This is like the Jamaican bobsled, the first ever Canadians to compete in bobsled. And they were made up of athletes from other sports, just like in Cool Runnings. And they were the underdogs, like big time underdogs, and somehow pulled off what was considered even at the time, a huge upset and won the gold medal. So a better finish than Cool Runnings. Let's let this be a movie. And you got to love the names of these guys too. Vic Emery, John Emery, Peter Kirby, and Douglas Anakin. Anakin! Anakin! Gold medallist Anakin. And even in the same Olympics, Peter Kirby and Vic Emery, the captain, the pilot, whatever, they ended up finishing fourth in the two-man bobsleigh.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I was about to say, very impressive. They finished fourth in the two-man curling or something like that. Like, good for them.

 

COLIN HILDING: The mixed doubles.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Essentially. And good to see George Lucas, a big fan of Canadian bobsleigh, to name one of his characters after a gold medal-winning bobsledder there. So I did.

 

COLIN HILDING: We almost could have had Obi-Wan Emory too.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Indeed. Padme Vic. R2D2 Emory. Jar Jar Kirby. Yes. Ray. No one cares about that sequel trilogy. Breaking news in the ice dance. Currently leading is Team USA's Jean-Luc Baker and Kaitlyn Horak. Looks like Hawkeye. So we'll call her Hawkeye. Kaitlyn Hawkeye. So currently in silver is Liu Zhenyu and Wang Xiaoyu of China, Canada. In third place in the women's, well, the mixed ice dance. The women's ice dance. The new event at the Olympics. For Australia, this is very poignant that this is happening. Today is Emma Lincoln Smith Day. Now, Emma Lincoln Smith, until let's say today, hopefully all things going to plan, is Australia's greatest ever skeleton racer. She finished 10th in Vancouver. Our only top 10 finish ever in a sliding event at the Olympic Games. She represented Australia in one Olympics. She finished 10th. Pretty decent effort. Her sister actually was part of the water polo team that won bronze in London. I interviewed Emma, I think, just after Vancouver, from memory back for the brink way back in the day. Great chat and great athlete, great lady. And her record will be broken today. Fingers crossed. Jackie crashes and bombs out and does a cool running, and Emma will still hold that distinction. But potentially in four years' time, we'll be having a Jackie and Aricot day. So we'll see how we go with that. Speaking of day-ly, daily dales, now this is an interesting one, because I don't know how we're feeling, gents, because I mean, I think it starts in about half an hour. So I can bullshit for half an hour, but you two are looking tired. I have no idea how this works. We can have a break, we can come back on, or we can just, you know, put an asterisk on this, on how we do this. But we can, I've got some nominees here, but are we all going to say right now, if Jackie wins a medal, she's our daily dale? Is that what we're going to put out there with an asterisk right now? We're all in agreement for that?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: 100%.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: She's got to win a medal though. Like, force is not going to get... She's got to win a medal.

 

COLIN HILDING: Unless somebody protests and holds up the event, in which case I'm switching my vote.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: You're funny. But with that in mind, I've still got some nominees outside of Jackie. So I don't know, if you do Jarrod, or are you hedging all your bets on Jackie?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: I'm all in on Jackie.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: You're all in on Jackie. Okay, all right. Colin, are you all in on Jackie? Do you have some other nominees for today?

 

COLIN HILDING: You know, I just saw that the Ivory Coast was in 25th place. So I'm like, well, that's a story. But then I realised it's an American-born, and those don't really count, do they?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: The Ivory Coast in what? In this? In Skeleton? Are you sure you're not looking at somebody from the Virgin Islands? Often confused, very close to Europe geographically. Flags look very similar. I knew there was a V in there.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Island coast, you know.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Just often confused. Whenever I meet someone from the US Virgin Islands, I often think they're from Côte d'Ivoire. Is that an accent? Ivory Coast? Oh, US Virgin Islands, sorry. Close.

 

COLIN HILDING: Basically the same thing.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: You know what it is, Jarrod? Colin just can't say the word virgin.

 

COLIN HILDING: Stop talking dirty on this podcast. Children are listening.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Sorry, I will never mention Oscar Erickson again. So you've got no other nominees either, Colin? You're just hedging your bets on Jackie?

 

COLIN HILDING: No, I mean, my other choice would have been the Japanese curling team, but that was from yesterday, so that doesn't count.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Wow, Jesus, look to see I'm the only one doing the homework today once again. I will give my, was it Matt Shervington? Or who was it today? Was it Jason Richardson? They were pumping out the Jack, Jack, Jackie for Jackie, if she wins the medal tonight. Great 90s trance song. No, I'm the only fan of that. Cool. Awesome. All right. Well, my nominees should Jackie, good to see I've got the one here ready to go in case Jackie chokes. I've got two. I have the German ice dancing pair of Katarina Muller and Tim. I don't want to say Dick, even though it looks like Dick. I think it's Diek. I don't have either of you caught them dressed as Harley Quinn and the Joker. Absolutely going gangbusters dancing to Spirit in the Sky, Toxic by Britney Spears and Seven Nation Army by The White Stripes. Now, they're currently sitting, I think, in second last. Didn't do very well in terms of the judges. Third last, I should say. But I was on board. This hooked me not only because Katarina can hook me next to Oscar Erickson. We will all sweep stuff together. And Tim as well. Good looking rooster. But this is a great performance. And anyone at the Olympics who can dress up as Harley Quinn and the Joker has my vote. So putting them up. No, you didn't see it or don't care.

 

COLIN HILDING: I haven't seen it. So I don't know if I feel comfortable. But you won't be comfortable when you see it. My bigger complaint is like, has Germany not taken enough from us?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: What are you trying to say, Colin?

 

COLIN HILDING: This is not a Holocaust reference. I'm simply saying.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: What have they taken from you, Colin? Are you Polish?

 

COLIN HILDING: We've already had a German athlete up, and we probably could have put up six others by now.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, it's fun.

 

COLIN HILDING: It doesn't matter.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: When any of those German athletes put up the Joker or Harley Quinn. No. If Claudia dresses up as the Joker, if Natalie dresses up as Harley Quinn, then fine. But they didn't. As Jarrod said last night, the Germans are coming, and they're coming to steal the Daily Dales every day.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Just imagine if you show up for your routine as Harley Quinn and the Joker, and then you see another ice dancing bear who dresses the same. You're like, damn it, they had the same idea. It's so popular. Who would have thought?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Or, like the Ukrainians, who dresses Batman and Robin. It's like, oh, there you are.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: When you get the ice dance battle.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, there's another event, the ice dance battle. It's like one of those rap battles, right? They just, you know, drop it in the ice, down there. All right, well, if we don't like our German ice dancing pair, how about we raise out with a Chinese ice hockey player? Now, he's a bit of a mystery, this guy, because he's got two names. You might know him in Canada as Parker Fu. He has played in many Canadian teams before, and is actually drafted by, I believe, by the Chicago Blackhawks. He hasn't played a game for them, but he's going by his Chinese, traditional Chinese name of Fu Shuai in China. He scored China's first ever Olympic goal in ice hockey. Congratulations to him. For men's. Thank you, Colin. Yes, you're correct. Sexist Ben. He scored that against Germany. His brother is also playing on the team, Spencer Fu, who I'm a bit of a fan of Spencer Fu because he's actually played for the Calgary Flames before. He's going by Zhang Fu in China. So history there for a team that, as I said, everyone thought they were going to lose 20-0 in every single game. So, and a bit of a Canadian connection there as well. He was born in St. Albert in Alberta. So there you go. So look, we don't like how German ice dances. What do we say for a Chinese ice hockey player if Jackie doesn't get up tonight? Are we on board with Fu Xue or Parker Fu, whatever you want to call him?

 

COLIN HILDING: I'm more for it. I mentioned days ago, I was loving especially the women's hockey, China's performance. And yeah, it's fun to watch. We're going to have to give it to somebody from the host nation. How appropriate we're going to give it to somebody who has no shot at winning, against what China's gone in here for. But I'm a little more for that. Did you have any others or is that it for you?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: That was it. I mean, I was tempted to put up the Chinese speed skater, but we've had like 48,000 speed skaters up every single night. It's always bloody speed skaters and snowboarders, I swear. So yeah.

 

COLIN HILDING: I mean, why not the speed skater though? Oh gosh. How many speed skaters have we given it to?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: One, two, one, two, two, one. Claudia, two.

 

COLIN HILDING: Oh, it is two already?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Two is the second.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: I think someone else had it there.

 

COLIN HILDING: Both in short track or any in long track?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: We haven't had, no.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Is it only one?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Claudia, Claudia is long track. So yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. We remember. This is like three days ago.

 

COLIN HILDING: Of all hockey players, though, we're going to give it to one of the, what are their names? Shoes from China. The Foos.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: No, I'm sticking with Parker or Fooshui, as he's been referred to right now in China.

 

COLIN HILDING: I think that's the better choice of the two. But you know what? I want to see the Daily Dale with a picture of Harley Quinn and the Joker. So I'm changing my opinion now.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Let's give them all.

 

COLIN HILDING: The Germans are coming. Fine.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: So Jarrod, which way are you swayed now?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Harley Quinn and the Joker for sure. Like I didn't even see the performance today, but they did the same routine in the team competition. So the fact that it's now been at the Olympics twice is amazing.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Come on. They did it to toxic by Britney Spears at the Olympics.

 

COLIN HILDING: We're going to cap. We're going to cap Germany after this, though.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Colin, just point out Britney Spears is at the Olympics. She did it in 4.7 seconds. Are we capping it with the jumping? Unless like, I don't know, freaking Steffi Steffi Graf wins the Monobob. That would be a pretty groundbreaking achievement. Steffi Graf, your 2022 Olympic champion in the Monobob beats Angelique Kerber and Michael Schumacher.

 

COLIN HILDING: But this is dependent on skeleton results. We're all agreeing, right?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah. So we're going to put the asterisks because yes, we're not. These two are wimps. They're not going to last the next hour. So we will say that we will hold off on posting it until after the skeleton. Jackie wins a medal. And you are listening to this, obviously, after the results of that, we will then give it to Jackie. So congratulations to our first Australian Daily Dale winner, Jackie, if she's won a medal. If she hasn't, congratulations to Harley Quinn and the Joker from Germany for winning our Daily Dale.

 

COLIN HILDING: It would have been better if they danced to Ramstein, right?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh my God, that would have made my life. You obviously haven't listened to the episode last night, Colin, but what did you think of our Irish cross-country ski? Which can I also just add, thanks very much to the Irish Olympic team for the official Irish Olympic team Instagram page for following us on Instagram. So we're being watched now by Team Ireland.

 

COLIN HILDING: Did you see this?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Thomas Maloney-Westgard, 14th in the cross-country yesterday, Colin, our Daily Dale.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I missed the cross-country, but I just loved seeing Ireland in there. So yeah, I'm for it. I'll give it my support.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: So we, that's why we chose him. So we've only had the two Germans I'm seeing here, and one speed, no, two speed, one speed skater going through. So I'm just quickly reviewing our Daily Dales.

 

COLIN HILDING: This is our third German then, right?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Second, third, third. It could be our third.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: And technically fourth, right? Because there's two of them.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, so Oskar was day one.

 

COLIN HILDING: We've already given it to Canada four times.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oskar Schiller, Claudia Speed Skater, day one. Then day two was Zoe, so snowboarder. Day three was ski jumping, Canada mixed team in that. You've done very well in the mixed team events, you've got three bronzes basically, so you're dominating the mixed teams. So day four was Natalie Geisenberger in the Lurgs. Natalie Geisenberger with the Lodge. Literally, she won all the medals and the Daily Dale. Lindsay Jacobellis, the snowboarder. Did you know she was a snowboarder? There you go. Followed by Johannes Strauss. Strauss? That's where you're getting confused. Austria, Germany. Didn't I offend them by saying Austria is Germany, Jr.?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Little Germany, I think, was the... Little Germany.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: And Thomas... So we've had two Germans, two and a half Germans. And snowboarders. We're going to spread these out with all the sports. Sorry to all our Nordic combined athletes who are getting snubbed. I'll be fighting for that coming soon. All right. Tomorrow, big day for many reasons. We've got the Monobob and the Aereals qualifying round. So for Australia, big, big day, because these are chance... And off the podium. This is not just for Australia. This is off the podium. Chances here. Brie looking very good in the off... In the off the podium. That's the event. Brie looking very good in Ben in the Monobob. And then, of course, Danny and we've got Laura. And, of course, we've also got Sophie. We shouldn't forget her. Or is it Gabby? One of the Ashes. I can't always forget which one it is. One of the Ashes. This is out there. So they're the big shots for Australia, even though they're just a qualify... Qualifying rounds. Yup, Ben English going very well today. We also have, I believe, Scott's back out in the pursuit in the biathlon tomorrow as well. And I've written down here, on my notes, that Charles Hamlin in the 500, but we know he's not competing in the 500 off the podium. But Colin, before I get Jarrod's perspective on this, I mean, is there anything Canadian that you know is happening on day nine on the big side of things at all? Or are you not that far ahead looking at your notes?

 

COLIN HILDING: I mean, there's hockey and curling. I know that's coming up, probably. I hope I'm not wrong on that. I'm actually just looking at my schedule right now and seeing where we have a Canadian flag.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: The women's 500 metres in the speed skating? Do you have any women in the line?

 

COLIN HILDING: Well, we have somebody in the monobob, apparently. We have slope style, free ski.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: You've got your former, what's her name? Humphreys, the former Canadian.

 

COLIN HILDING: Kayleigh Humphreys. Oh, yeah, that's going to be a talking point. I actually kind of side with her on that to a certain extent. It's just disappointing all around.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Because what happened? Wasn't there something, was it around qualifier? Like she wasn't selected or was it a COVID thing or what was it?

 

COLIN HILDING: No, no, no. She chose to leave because of some issues she had with some sexual discrimination or assault. Something sexual. There was a sex in the title. Kayleigh Humphrey Sex.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: They called it and ignored it.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, exactly. That's why I'm not fully up to speed. But yeah, she chose to leave, which, you know, I mean, she's married to an American. So, you know, I guess it's fair enough. She decides to commit for America. It's really disappointing. There are people who have gone so far who are like, Oh, I just want her dead. Let's not wish death upon a person. Exactly. Was there a please involved?

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, I really wish she would be dead, please.

 

COLIN HILDING: It is of all things. I don't think I've seen Canadians take something as personally as they took this. And it probably would have been different if it was another country. It's just it's America, so they take it more personally. But yeah, it'll be tough.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: You didn't know that was Dale Bigg Smith, did you? Oh, Britton Corey. Off you go to Australia. Not to America.

 

COLIN HILDING: No, it's funny because it barely even made a mention here in Canada with Dale Bigg Smith. You know, I'm pretty sure if I go back to my country.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: You're in Australia as well, don't worry.

 

COLIN HILDING: But yeah, I don't think that usually we'll get like them, oh, they used to compete for Canada or whatever. With Kayleigh Humphreys, that's a big deal. So I'm pulling for you, Kayleigh.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Are you pulling for your truck workers in Ottawa right now? Is the city still in lockdown? Is Justin sending the military yet? Oh, they made headlines here in Australia. They're like, oh, Justin's sending the military.

 

COLIN HILDING: The bigger thing that's making headlines is the fact that almost every single province has ended their mandates, but Justin Trudeau still won't. So at this point, it's a matter of pride for him. But I'm glad I'm not living in Ottawa, because I could actually, I love to say it because I can actually get some sleep at night, but I'm not sleeping.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: That's a common sentence often used in Canada, isn't it? I'm glad I'm not living in Ottawa. I think that's their slogan, isn't it? Ottawa, I'm glad I'm not living here. I liked Ottawa. I went to Ottawa. Ottawa was actually quite nice. So I'll live in Ottawa. If everyone leaves, I'll be the one citizen. I'll be the mayor of Ottawa. There you go. That could be my new nickname. Hello, I'm Ben Waterworth, the mayor of Ottawa. Mayor of Ottawa. So the medal's being decided tomorrow. So obviously the monobob and that are just qualifying. They'll be decided on Monday, but we've got the men's giant slalom in Alpine skiing, the men's and women's pursuit in the biathlon, the men's four by ten kilometre relay. Very men-centric tomorrow, isn't it? How sexist. In the short track, the men's 500 metres, followed by the women's 3000 metre relay. So I'm sure Canada will be involved in that. And the women's 500 metres in the speed skating happening tomorrow. Jay, what are you excited for? Is Monobob and Ariel's tomorrow? Is that what we're pumped for?

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, 100%. It's gonna go well.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: I'm actually really looking forward to the Monobob. This is one that, I mean, we had Bree on basically a year ago. She was, I think, our first real guest we had in the lead up to this. I'm saying this now. Just like we made Dean and Tali a thing, we made Bree a thing. So we were the OGs who were interviewing Bree and Dean, Dean and Tali before they were. Oh, look at us. We're on every single podcast and TV station. We did it a year ago, people. So we're the trendsetters Off Podium. That's why we were listed in the New York Times. All right. Simple.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: I am looking forward to ask Scotty's good luck message for Bree. That might be the highlight of tomorrow.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, the highlight of tomorrow. Just Scotty, wish a good luck too. To Basil and Georgie, may your calls go really well tonight. All the best. And Georgie, may you grow a couple of inches taller. To Grant Denier on Dancing With The Stars, coming soon after the Olympics on Channel 7. I believe he actually sent us a good luck message. To Off The Podium, good luck in the Sports Podcast Awards.

 

COLIN HILDING: Get well soon, Ben Waterworth, top researcher.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: Well, you say that. But I've got the following message from Basil Zemplas. I really am sad that we're not staying on air, but it's only starts in 15 minutes. But yeah, okay, whatever. Fine, we're not.

 

COLIN HILDING: I think I'll be going to bed by the time this thing's over.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: We've literally got the countdown clock right now on Channel 7, 14 minutes to go till it starts. And she's like second last to go.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: So an hour after that.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: So we're crossing our fingers and toes for Naracot Night that we're going to come on air tomorrow night. And we're going to be talking about a medal of some sort. And hopefully a good day for Brie, Danny, and as some guy wants to rev a car outside the hotel. That's really lovely. We're going, Colin. I'm sorry. I'm putting him to sleep. I'm seeing Colin's bored. Colin, thank you for joining us. Sorry to keep you up. Tough day for you, I'm sure.

 

COLIN HILDING: Yeah, but great day for the Ivory Coast, so I'm happy.

 

BEN WATERWORTH: 25th and Skeleton, that's an unexpected result for them. First ever top 25 finish in the Winter Olympics, so good for them. Jarrod, also thank you for joining us.

 

JARROD LOOBEEK: Thank you. Come on, Jackie, bring it home.

 

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