Beijing 2022 Day 6 Review
Another day of Beijing is in the record books and we're back to go over everything that happened and more on a day that brought multiple medals for Canada and multiple non-medals for Australia! How is Canada feeling with a couple more history breaking medals? How is Australia feeling after the disappointment of the snowboard cross? What are our actual thoughts on figure skating and does something need to change with it? Did we even need to watch the women's halfpipe when we already knew the result? Why does the OTP curse continue in a big way today and is in particularly special visual form? Do we feel athletes with doping violations should be eligible for the DAILY DALE? And why are Australian viewers really missing out on some of the Canadian coverage? Listen in to get your Olympic vibes sorted for another action packed day!
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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BEN WATERWORTH: It is Off The Podium, An Olympics Podcast coming to you for another Beijing 2022 recap episode. Day 6 is, well, sort of done. We're actually doing this a little bit earlier than usual, so it's still going on right now as we speak, but for the most part it's done. It's a day in which Canada have won a couple of medals. It's a day in which Australia didn't really even come close to getting a couple of medals, but we did our best. We did well, which is great. You tried. We tried. Up you go, champs. On you go, son. Well done. An interesting day with plenty of stuff to get to. Joining me as they do every single day, except for days when we have COVID. It's a man who still doesn't have COVID. He's the goat of Off The Podium, as we discovered yesterday. Jarrod Loobeek. Jarrod, welcome back.
JARROD LOOBEEK: Thank you. It's good to be back.
BEN WATERWORTH: And joining us is also the goat of sitting in front of a treadmill in Winnipeg. It's Colin, Hilding. Colin, welcome back.
COLIN HILDING: I'm glad to be back, and maybe by tomorrow I will record the episode on the treadmill. Who knows?
BEN WATERWORTH: Hey, I will join you.
COLIN HILDING: Tokyo Flashback.
BEN WATERWORTH: Still staring at the one next to me as well. Another big guy. You actually got a treadmill?
COLIN HILDING: I thought you were joking about that.
BEN WATERWORTH: You said they're going to get your treadmill. Do you want to show it to you? Like, where is it? Can you see it? There it is. Sitting there. Did I tell you I got told off? I got told off for using it? Did I tell you that?
COLIN HILDING: Was it too noisy downstairs?
BEN WATERWORTH: Basically, the other day, I was using it, and finished, got all sweaty, went to go in the shower, and the bloody hotel phone rings, and I'm like, no, who's ringing me? This is, you know, the reception. And they're just like, oh, you know, have you got a washing machine or something running? And I'm like, no. It's like, oh, somebody below you said there was a weird noise coming from your room. I'm like, oh, I was just on the treadmill. Oh, that was probably it. And I'm like, thanks, Karen below me. Like, fuck you.
COLIN HILDING: You should have been like, intercourse. I was having intercourse.
BEN WATERWORTH: I love how Colin makes the sex jokes now. So, doing well. But anyway, that's the life of Ben pre-COVID. The life of the Olympics. Canada, two medals, no gold still. We're a bit of a gold drought for Canada. I don't know how this is affecting Canadians. We'll talk about that. But a silver in the Snowboard Cross to Elliott Grandin and a bronze in the Alpine Skiing in the Combined to James. Or is it Jack? We'll get to that. Crawford. The very first ever medal Canada has ever won in that event at the Olympic Games. How are Canada celebrating silver and a bronze medal? With potentially more to come. As we are on air, there are still a couple of events which Canada have potential to medal in this evening.
COLIN HILDING: I mean, these both are overnight. As we record right now, it is 5:07 a.m. here in Winnipeg. So I haven't seen much as far as reactions go yet. But it was an exciting, as they said on the overnight show, it was an exciting 20 minutes because while the snowboard cross was going on, that's when the combined was going on. And they basically were cutting in between commercial breaks just to update you. And then as soon as it's over, they basically describe it as this is the most exciting 20 minutes in the history of Winter Olympics for Canada because we just got two medals. And I think particularly with Crawford, I think it was probably a bigger deal, maybe because he's had more exposure as his third event, but he's gotten so close in his prior two events. So exciting for him. And yeah, there's still time. I don't know if we're going to do this. And the gold thing doesn't really like it. It's weird. I think the gold was a bigger deal in past Olympics, but I don't know how it is with your TV coverage. When you get the medal standings, the proper medal standings is based on gold. But I think for bragging rights, a lot of countries just will adopt the overall medals, in which case I think we're in the top five maybe. But how is it in Australia?
BEN WATERWORTH: I'll be absolutely honest with you, and I don't know, Jarrod, if you're the same. I've barely seen the medal table, actually. I saw it a bit when we won a couple of medals, but I don't even know if I've seen it once since. Have you, Jarrod?
JARROD LOOBEEK: I have not. I don't think they've shown it.
BEN WATERWORTH: No, it's interesting. It's done by gold here, but I've always been an advocate for total medals. I 100% think it should always be done by total medals, because my argument is, if New Zealand ends these Olympics on one gold, zero silver, zero bronze, why should they be ranked ahead of, say, if, I don't know, Lithuania win 20 silvers and 40 bronze? That to me is not fair. That's the GOAT argument. That's like, oh, New Zealand is a GOAT, because they got a gold, whereas Lithuania only got 60 medals. It's just dumb. And I'm not just saying that, because obviously I'm very much pro-Canada, but you are fourth on the medal tally based on total medals, one versus gold. So I'm a massive advocate for total over gold.
COLIN HILDING: By the way, just credit on our Daily Daily yesterday, and in your write up, making sure to identify as greatest loser of all time, so that we've now replaced goat with gloat. So let's make gloat a thing.
BEN WATERWORTH: I like that that could work well for lacrosse players, for Lichtenstein athletes, which is always positive, and Lithuanians as well. So there you go. I've got to say, Colin, just on your two medals, obviously great for James slash Jack Crawford. I had to double take a few times there, and I thought I'd put his name wrong on our graphic because I kept seeing people saying, congratulations, Jack, well done, Jack. But I'm guessing that's his nickname or something because his name is James. But for some reason, people call him Jack. For Elliot Grondin, though, Jarrod, I'm sure you were watching this a long time too. I've got to say, a bit of a choke. He was kicking ass all fucking day, dominating this tournament, and I have no idea how he ended up losing that. So did you see any of it, Colin?
COLIN HILDING: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I watched the entire thing. And I don't know if he was being considered a favour here. Like, it's a weird thing with Snowboard Cross, especially compared to Ski Cross, because, I mean, Canada dominates in Ski Cross. I mean, I think in Pyeongchang, we got gold and silver in both the men's and the women's. Where Snowboard Cross, you know, we've had, I think, one medal up until this point for at least the men, and it was the first time they ever held it. So even though I think as soon as the event started, the commentator is saying he's one of the favourites. I don't know if there was any type of expectation, but yeah, every, I mean, the heats, the quarters, the semis, it was looking like this was a runaway for him. But I mean, still, having said that, it was pretty down to the wire right at the end. I mean, it looked like it could have almost been a photo finish if he hadn't done what I'm going to say is the stupidest thing that I've been seeing anybody doing all day, which is this backslide, which makes no sense at all, because I think every once in a while, somebody maybe get overzealous, and they want to try to get a little bit of an edge with their board, and they fall. But I swear, half the riders today were doing this weird backslide, and it was only on one of the semifinals where the commentators here were like, yeah, I don't know why this is being attempted. I mean, it's going to slow you down, but he kind of had a little bit of a slide at the end. Maybe if he hadn't done that, we could have had a gold.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, in all fairness, I think that slide got him closer, because I know in our commentary, Dave Colbert sort of called it straight away to the Austrian, but then on the replay, I actually saw him do the slide, and it looked like he did get closer. So maybe if we get one of them on the show, we can sort of ask why this slide is done. Mike Robertson, you got a silver medal back in Vancouver in this event, is your only male athlete in the Snowboard Cross. In the women's, you had a gold, male ricker back in Vancouver, and Dominique Maltay, silver and slotchy. Dominique Maltay got the bronze in Turin as well, so you've done pretty alright in that event on the women's side of things. Jarrod, did you watch the Snowboard Cross? What else did we watch this afternoon? There wasn't much on. I mean, Australia was sort of a little bit obsessed with this.
COLIN HILDING: You had half of the competitors, I think.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, and half of them didn't come out of the first round, basically. You know, obviously, a bit disappointing. I mean, Jarrod used the rating silver medals. He just had a rubbish day, and it was hard to watch his interview as well, similar to Matt Graham the other day. Obviously, very disappointed with it. I mean, kind of what was your take on the Aussies? Ken Bolton at least made it to the quarters, I guess. So that was something.
JARROD LOOBEEK: Luke, it wasn't impressive. I just feel like none of them got off to a great start. In all the races, it felt like they were all playing catch up. It was even more disappointing because two of them happened to be in the rounds where there was only three competitors instead of four. So they had to beat one person. And surprise, surprise in both of those who finished last. But yeah, Cam looked strong in the first round, but then just completely out of it. It was almost similar to like Bella just got off to a rough start and struggled to really make up the ground.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, Adam Dixon didn't go through. He was the closest, I think he was second most of it, then he got overtaken right on the line. So that was hard to watch. Yeah, poor Jared Hughes. He ended up crashing out in his. When he went for a move and then kind of missed out there. And Adam Lambert, good to see that he's given up singing and come to represent Australia in snowboarding. He didn't go to Garen, as you said, in one of these ones, where there was only three basically in that. But yeah, Cam Bolton unfortunately couldn't quite bring home the biscuits for Australia. And didn't quite have the result that we all anticipated there. Colin, what were you saying about your... I don't know if you wanted to say this for your fails, but what were the Canadians calling Cam Bolton? They're calling him Bolton Cam?
COLIN HILDING: Well, at one point, it was just the graphic on the screen. They, for whatever reason, got his name reversed, which you're used to seeing that when the Japanese athletes come up, but not necessarily for an Australian. It was corrected almost immediately, within two minutes. It was basically like when they were about to run. I can't remember if it was in his heats or quarters or whatever. When they were about to run, when their scan across all the athletes came up and it said Bolton Cameron. And then as soon as the race was over, the results came up and it was Cameron Bolton. But I don't know, a little bit of a flub there. First time that I've seen it done with an English speaking athlete, at least.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, glad that we could help you out there with that. So in those events, I should say, the medals, in the Snowball Cross Goal went to Alessandro Hamel from Austria, bronze to Omar Wiesenthin from Italy. I love seeing him getting the bronze. In his 30s, first time he got an Olympic medal. And one of those athletes who just was crying for winning a bronze, I love those type of athletes who are able to just show that emotion for just something as simple as a bronze medal. It was so good to see. And in the men's combined, it was Goal to Johannes Strolls of Austria. A great story here for Johannes Strolls. His dad won gold in the same event back in Calgary in 1988. So what a story that one is. And Silva went to Alexander Amant killed. So I'm glad that one half of the Michaela Schifrin household is actually bringing home the bacon. At least one of them goes to bed happy at night. That's his third medal at the Olympics, I think, isn't it, killed? Maybe he's just taking all her power from the bedroom. I don't know how it works. Second medal. This is Michaela Schifrin's boyfriend. You know that, right?
COLIN HILDING: No, I'm taking her power from the bedroom. He stripped her sexuality.
BEN WATERWORTH: I don't know. In the middle of what you called it for, intercourse, it's like the power comes out of Michaela into him, and he's all like, I'm going to steal your medal-winning prowess.
COLIN HILDING: I can't believe that I'm, of all people, I am explaining the birds and the beasts, you've been, but it comes out of the man into the woman. That's kind of how it works.
BEN WATERWORTH: But Michaela is that good that she can like, it is possible for women to excrete lubricants as well, Colin. Have sex with your wife properly for once. Maybe you'll understand that. But anyway, good for him for getting another medal.
COLIN HILDING: Good for him. He's stealing her sex powers and winning medals.
BEN WATERWORTH: Sex juice, stealing Michaela's sex juice. The new podcast from Ben Waterworth coming soon to 2025. I seriously want a podcast called Stealing Michaela's Sex Juice. Or just call it Michaela's Shit Friend. I still think that's a great name for her. I really do. But wait, we're not allowed to say that, sorry. We've seen the online police. You're not allowed to say anything bad against Michaela because she's had a couple of bad runs. You're not allowed to criticise athletes when they're bad. If they're shit, they're still good. Just remember that. I want to remember that when we're shit on an episode, we're still good.
COLIN HILDING: If she eventually gets up from that sulking position she's in on the side of the course, you may be on day nine, then maybe it'll be open season on her. But she's still sitting there pouting right now.
BEN WATERWORTH: She's still sitting there just as Thomas Bach is still concluding his speech from Rio. So, who will get up first?
COLIN HILDING: Those are the two longest events in Olympic history. Thomas Bach's Rio speech and Michaela Schifrin's Beijing pouting.
BEN WATERWORTH: One thing I just want to add, the mixed team aerials is on right now. We'll talk about this in a minute. But can I just point out, David Morris is there. I don't know if he's there in a coaching capacity or he's just there as an Australian official or something like that. Fully kitted up in the great Australian suit, he's cheering everybody up there. Like, we'd be in this event if David Morris, you know, came out of retirement for the fifth time. I still think he's sitting on the course and Pyeongchang robbed after what happened there. But are you seeing this, Jerry? You're seeing the great David Morris. Off The Podium's David Morris is there.
JARROD LOOBEEK: I have. They should have just like rolled him out, put in a late entry. Who cares? Like, just be in the event, it's aerials. Anything can happen, you know?
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, exactly. So Lydia's there too. She's still looking fit.
COLIN HILDING: I can't recognise him. Is he on the course? Is he coaching?
BEN WATERWORTH: I don't know what team it was, but he was next to one of the team's coaches. They basically cut to him, cheering one of the people landing. The Swiss, I think. Yeah, the Swiss. Yeah, if you see a guy, a man in an Aussie green jacket, basically the only male involved in aerials in Australia in our history, David Morris, yeah, you can't miss him.
COLIN HILDING: I know that Canada has sent a lot of these athlete mentors, like Brittany McLean, who we interviewed before, commentator and swimmer. She's there as an athlete mentor, obviously not for a specific sport, because there's no swimmers in the Winter Olympics. Jill Officer, who we interviewed, she's there as a mentor. And I keep hoping to see them. I'm hoping to see Jill there in the curling, just as like, I don't know, cheering section, what are these mentors for? But apparently they never leave Athletes Village. I want to know what these mentors are doing. Maybe this is it.
BEN WATERWORTH: It's kind of different for Australia. I mean, I don't think there's been a single day where we haven't seen Alyssa Campland involved in something. I know she's our Deputy Chef de Michon and a great Aussie Olympian, but I mean, seriously, Alyssa, just calm down. Between Alyssa and Lydia, you think they're competing there. I love them both dearly, but I mean, you know, where's David Morris is there? Like, I want to see David Morris cheer him. Where's Dale? Where's Dale Begg-Smith? Actually, that's a legitimate question. Where is Dale Begg-Smith? If you've had word of Dale Begg-Smith, call 1-800-WHERE'S-DALE. Other medal events today, one that I would like to talk a little bit about in the cross-country skiing, Therese Joharg, who won her second gold of these games, her third overall in her Olympic career, won the Women's St. Catharine High School. Not without controversy. She's formerly a drug cheat. So she has been banned. She missed Pyeongchang due to being naughty naughty with the druggy druggies, but she's back and won a couple of gold here. So I mean, I don't know when it comes to athlete of the day, if we disqualifying, you know, the whole saying of once an Olympian, always an Olympian. Does that mean once a drug cheat, always a drug cheat? I don't know. Hello, Therese, if you're listening. Kretu Niskanen of Finland took the silver, and Krista Parmakoski of Finland took the bronze. And in the figure skating and the snowboarding halfpipe, not that we... I have no idea these events happened. I have not seen any of these on TV or in the news at all. Nathan Chen, the gold in the men's singles. Yuma Kageyama, silver for Japan, and Shoma Uno, the bronze. And in the halfpipe, Chloe Kim, gold for the United States. Correct. Castellet, silver. Spain's first ever winter Olympic silver medal. Get on board. And Saina Tomito of Japan, the bronze. And the other ones that are happening right now that will be decided, probably not while we're on air, the freestyle aerials mix team is on. Canada are in the mix for that. Lou's team relay, get involved. I actually legitimately love that event, so I'm looking forward to that. Canada are raining silver medallists, of course, in that event too. And the women's 5000 metres in speed skating also happening this evening. Just want to talk, obviously, the halfpipe and the figure skating. Get the halfpipe over and done with, because we've got a bit of rant on the figure skating. When it comes to the halfpipe, when you've got these events where they hype someone up so much, both of these events with Chloe Kim and Nathan Chen, why do we bother watching? It legitimately comes down to a point where you know they're going to win. I've got more of a problem with the figure skating. But I don't know if it's a thing with these judge sports, when you've got someone like Chloe Kim, that ultimately they seem to get the scores no matter what. Now, again, I'm no expert. I watch these events every four years. I'm an armchair critic. But I think some of those other routines from some of the other athletes look just as good, if not better, than Chloe Kim's. And yet Chloe Kim just seems to dominate the event. She doesn't even have to try. Jarrod, I don't know your thoughts on it. I don't know. It just seems like someone like Chloe Kim automatically gets a 100-point head start because she's Chloe Kim.
JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it's an interesting one. I kind of felt the same way in the halfpipe. I feel like the figure setting was a different story. I feel like Nathan Chen was above and beyond the rest of the field. But I do think there's probably something in it, especially when there's such a big difference at certain times between point scores. It's like, where is this coming from? And in an event like this where... These events where the scores are across the board, it's not these different elements. It's like the moguls I get that we look at and we're like, oh, that's weird. But then when you take into account, it's the speed, it's the style, it's the air. It's like these three components. But in these sports where we're just given a raw score, no explanation. I think even taking away the top and the bottom, it just doesn't even out. I think there is that bias when the judges know it's somebody good, that there's just a little bit more hype behind the same tricks.
BEN WATERWORTH: And I'm not trying to take away from Chloe Kim and her achievements. She's obviously amazing at what she does and deserves a gold medal, similar when you talk somebody about like Sean White or something like that. But it just does seem like sometimes these people just get the top. Like if you're talking about Michael Phelps or in the same boat, there's no discrepancy over if they're good or not. They're the fastest. They're going to touch the wall first or cross the finish line first. We can see that with our own eyes. You can't change that. Whereas this, it's a little bit more subjective. Colin, I don't know how you feel if you saw it. Like, I mean, kind of is Chloe Kim, just this household name in Canada as well, just south of the border as well?
COLIN HILDING: Well, first, I want to say I agree with Jarrod, at least from the viewer's perspective. Like, I did not question Nathan Chen at all. Like, it was clearly deserving of the scores. With Chloe Kim, it is different, and it could very well just be not understanding the scoring system. I will say one thing that kind of helped, because I do agree with you in that I sort of went into the event thinking the same thing. Like, you know, is she going to win this no matter what? Like, if she, I don't know, decides to drop the board and just slide up and down on a crazy carpet.
BEN WATERWORTH: Take a crap halfway through the event. Just pull her pants down and let it flow. Yeah, exactly.
COLIN HILDING: I mean, her and her boyfriend are going to try to steal each other's sex juices, halfway down the pipe, who knows? Like, yeah, you do start to wonder. And part of it is, as we addressed yesterday, just the American hype, maybe because American media is so big, just that hype, we seem to get that domination of the talk of the athletes. But I will say what kind of help was A, watching it with Jamie, because Jamie knows nothing about these sports, doesn't care who Chloe came with. Let me just put it this way. She asked me yesterday what country McKell Kingsbury was from.
BEN WATERWORTH: And that's why you're getting a divorce.
COLIN HILDING: Exactly. And that's pretty much my favourite athlete in the world. Jamie! I tried to pitch giving Kingsbury as one of the middle names for one of our twins, but she honestly doesn't care where they're from, doesn't know. And if I tell her, she'll forget. But she was watching it with Chloe Kim. She was like, oh, that was the best one I've seen yet. The other thing is, if you really have a good commentator who can explain it to you, because they'll finish a run, and I'll be like, wow, that looks incredible. And the commentators will be like, oh, unbelievable. And then as soon as they start showing the replay, especially having Craig McMorris as our specialist on there, he will start to go over and say, oh, you can just notice that, you know, they let go of the grab a little bit too soon there. Hello, Casper.
BEN WATERWORTH: Did you have thoughts on Chloe Kim?
COLIN HILDING: You want to take my Moneypenny figure, go take Moneypenny upstairs? Okay. Hey, I sure hope Mummy's awake right now. Why don't you guys continue the conversation? But yes, the commentators definitely help to understand the scores a little better.
BEN WATERWORTH: What a great breaking section here on Off The Podium. Yeah, look, it's... And again, I feel like I'm sitting here ripping into Chloe Kim saying she didn't deserve it. It's not that, but it's just... It's kind of like with Eileen Goo yesterday. It's just kind of one of these things where it's not like a Michaela Schifrin, where like if she crashes out and fucks up, you know that she's fucked up, she's out. That's it, she's done. Whereas like this, it's like even if they crash and just have a little bit of a landing on the triple X volley or whatever it is, and boom, they're still gonna do it. The figure skating, the issue I have in the figure skating, I agree with both of you, Nathan Chen is just above and beyond amazing, that guy. Like, holy crap, I know nothing about figure skating, but yeah, give him the gold every time. The problem I have with the sport is that that is to me maybe the most predictable Olympic sport that exists because there is literally no change in that that happens from the first to the second round. And you literally have people falling on their arse for like three jumps, but they still get up and win a silver medal. And this is, I get it, there's technicalities around it. You've got to hit a certain amount of scores and routines and everything along those lines. But if Chloe Kim crashes all three, as little Casper here right now, I feel he's about to unmute Colin and completely join in. This will be interesting. If Chloe Kim crashes all three of her runs, you know she's not going to score. Yet, I think it was one of the Japanese skaters. He did fall like three times, but he still gets a medal. I just don't understand it. And maybe we need to get more figure skaters on this show to fully explain it to me. But Jarrod, I don't know how you feel about it, but if I'm watching a sport and somebody crashes, I want to know that, okay, well, they're fucked up, and then fourth place, now I've got a chance. But I don't think the position has changed at all from the short program and through the free skate. And like, well, what's the point of me watching this when I know the results already?
JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, it's odd. I feel like it's counterintuitive to other sports, because we know in like any of the snowboarding events, as soon as somebody falls, that run is done. They can get back up and land all the rest of their tricks, but it's like, okay, you're only still going to get, I don't know, like 40, 50. Whereas it does seem in the figure skating that you definitely can like mess up a jump, mess up two jumps, but still come back and get a strong score. And I think what's weird too is that you have the, you have like the, I think it's the technical score on screen with like the green lights and the red lights and whatever. And you see that, but then there's this whole other like artistic component or whatever to their score, that there's like no commentary or understanding on like how that's calculated. So you're like, okay, this person, they've beat the top score on screen, but then their artistic score is low, or it's like them, or it's the reverse and they haven't beaten the score on screen, but then their artistic score is way higher, and then all of a sudden they're leading. It's just confusing the way like the elements are put together, and there's like no explanation from the commentators that I've heard of exactly how that works.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, and I completely agree like in terms of just explain a little bit better, but it's like the most comparable sport in some Olympics is gymnastics. But if Simone Biles falls flat in the face in the middle of the floor routine, she's going to be marked heavily for that. She falls off the beam. She's going to be marked heavily for that. There's no room for, oh, I fall down, so I'm still going to win a gold medal because that wasn't one of the key components. Like that's just where it's odd. Colin, you've missed a lot of that. I know you're off controlling your children, but basically we're saying about how figure skating is just probably the most predictable sport, because at the end of the day, the top 20 from the other day are going to finish in the same position, no matter how many times any of these skaters fall down. Like I watched Jason Brown. I'm being biased. Yes, we interviewed him on the show, but his routine was like 10 times better than the bunch of the Japanese skaters who ended up winning medals. And I'm like, well, how the fuck does that happen? Jason should have won a medal, but I'm no figure skating judge. So if I was, maybe I'd need to be bribed. I don't know.
COLIN HILDING: Well, that's never happened before, right?
BEN WATERWORTH: Or take some drugs basically. Hello, Russia.
COLIN HILDING: I mean, nobody on this show has ever cried retelling the story about bribe judges costing them a gold medal. Yeah, you know, see, my complaint with the figure skating is just how long it goes. Especially when you get these long program, short program, free skate, who cares what it is? When you have as many countries, that's why I kind of liked watching the team event, because you got five countries competing. You know, you pretty much know when you're going to be over and done with. And it takes forever to deliver the scores, too. And what I really don't understand is, if you have the same graphics, when they will have up on the screen, obviously you have, this is the leader and this is the current person going, and then they have like the technical sword that continues to go up throughout it. And I don't know if that's like basically, okay, the tricks they're doing are worth this many points, so it's trying to give the audience a basic idea. But none of it's relevant later on anyways, because they take about six hours to deliver the scores for each skater. So I don't know if I've ever been able to sit down and watch figure skating this entire day. I pretty much always will just record it and skim through. And of course, you just wait until the program's over or the skate is over, and then you skip about, you know, however long it's going to take before the scores are delivered. And then you're over and done with the event in 40 minutes.
BEN WATERWORTH: We should mention Brendan Carey, 17th great result for Brendan, a personal best, I believe, for him. And again, Nathan Chen, just absolutely outstanding. Jason Brown, six as well. So two good Off The Podium results there. But hello to all our figure skating fans. I'm sure there's, you know, I mean, you should mention a bit of controversy in the team. Canada might get bumped up to a bronze. We don't know yet. The 15 year old Russian, she's basically had, I think it's the same drugs that Sun Yen got banned from. And the same one that Maria Sharapova also got done for as well. So this angina medicine that essentially is illegal, but everyone says, oh, but it doesn't do anything. Well, then why the fuck do you take it?
COLIN HILDING: Yeah, like I would love to know the whole story, because I never want to assume, oh, yeah, they're taking this, you know, obviously to enhance their performance. But that was what came out yesterday was specifically what the drug was. And it was Su Yang's same one that he got as well. If that's the case, you know, if he was qualified, unless she can produce that she has some severe heart condition at the age of 15, while being an Olympian, it's starting to look a little bit suspicious.
BEN WATERWORTH: But it's one of these lines where it's like the famous one, I can't remember the name, the Romanian gymnast back in Sydney, who basically got given some painkillers because she had period pain and she got stripped of her gold medals because like the coach didn't read the package properly. Sorry, love, that's got a banned substance in it. Just sorry that you got some period pain, but you're going to lose your gold medal. I mean, it's tragic. But I mean, at the end of the day, these rules are in place. You know, they're there for a reason. And look, we're not going to comment. We'll be here for the next five hours talking about Russia and everything along those lines. There's a reason why they're rock again. But at the end of the day, Eric Radford might be up for a bronze. So come on off the podium. So we're being selfish here. Just quickly, breaking news in the aerials. Canada are through to the final final. They're one of four teams who have qualified. So there's only six teams, and then they have a second final with only four countries in it. What the hell?
COLIN HILDING: That's jittery's favourite number. We get the one loser.
BEN WATERWORTH: 75% chance of another medal here for Canada. China, USA and Switzerland all through. Rock and Belarus. Excuse me. I'm choking myself getting emotional over this, apparently. And just quickly, just on the drug thing. Just while we're on the topic of drugs, I mentioned Therese Joharga, Norwegian cross-country skier. Her second gold of these games. Her third overall, she won a gold back in Vancouver. I mean, she's, I guess, served the penalty. They wouldn't let her back in if she hasn't served the penalty. But Colin, just, I don't know, what do you feel about athletes who are convicted drug cheats, go and serve the time for doing the crime, but now they're back? Like if Ben Johnson tomorrow came out of retirement, are we going to be like, yeah, go for it, Ben, go for your life. Marion Jones, like fucking go for it, Marion, you can do it.
COLIN HILDING: I mean, how many times has Justin Gatlin been back? That's one of the other things. But that sort of just, I think, raises the concern that should there be extra measures? Like, are they just allowed to, same as everybody else, regular testing, or are there stricter measures? I agree with if your penalty is up, you should be allowed to compete again, but you should also maybe be subjecting them to more rigorous testing or something along those lines, so that you don't have those repeat offenders. Because otherwise, you are going to get a Justin Gatlin, who just gives a free buy for about 15 years straight.
BEN WATERWORTH: Jarrod, what do you think?
JARROD LOOBEEK: It's weird. I feel like everything is circumstantial in terms of did they know they were doping, which is the majority of times, but you are going to have these rare cases where they didn't know and they should have been more vigilant on what substances were in the medication they were taking. But I think in general, harsher penalties do a better job at deterring future drug cheats. If you know that, oh, I may get caught doing this, but if I get caught, the ban is going to be five years or whatever, and you are young in your career, and you know that you can come back after that time period, then I just feel like it's not enough of a deterrent not to take an illegal substance.
BEN WATERWORTH: Because I believe her ban was like an 18-month ban, which basically expired in March of 2018. So she missed going to the 2018 Olympics by like one month. So she didn't time that very well when she took those drugs. But she's back. She's won a couple of gold. So, you know, good for her killing it for Norway. Just before we go over some of the other Aussie-Canadian results from the day, we were talking a little bit yesterday, and we mentioned a little bit today about how there's this sort of focus on, say, the American athletes and sort of, you know, we're not talking about these big-name Europeans, you know, the losers, people like that. We actually got a message today on Instagram from a user by the name of DamElder13. Thanks, Dam. And I'm going to read this one because it's actually an interesting message that we got sent in. So, Dam says, I'm highly fascinated to listen to this podcast as a person from a traditional winter sports nation, Austria, which, of course, has a very Austrian or at least European outlook. I have barely heard anything about the American goats in these Olympics. Only a few result in Touloudes, basically, but definitely know lots about Geisenberger, Klebo and Johar. Seeing that you get shown such different coverage discipline wise is also fascinating. I think you said something about having not seen any biathlon in these Olympics. Pretty much impossible in Austria. I've seen so much biathlon. It's my main discipline of interest, as I am very closely following the World Cup. Already, it is nowhere close to the end of biathlon. Also haven't seen a single second of live curling or ski cross footage. Definitely fascinating. So, I mean, again, I really appreciate that message, Dan Elder. Like, I mean, obviously that makes sense. It's no doubt the same in Summer Olympics. Like, we're never going to see a handball, but I'm sure, you know, these Eastern European nations are never going to see swimming. So, it's fascinating. But, yeah, I don't know. I didn't want to tell you guys. That was surprising on air, like, that we've got this great message. Got people listening in Austria. So, you know, Colin, we need to send a shout out to our Austrian listeners. This is exciting.
COLIN HILDING: Well, congratulations. You've had a better day than Canada today, Austria. So, good for you. I'm sure that's dominated the TV coverage. But, like, that's one of the things that fascinates me. And I think that's kind of what he's saying. It's just it's interesting to hear about how things are different in different countries. Because there are sports that, you know, nor to combine. Perfect example that if you're in Europe, I mean, this is a prime time event. You know, here in Canada, we have Hockey Night in Canada, which is number one. Nobody's going to beat Hockey Night in Canada. I mean, it is Monday Night Football of Canada. But meanwhile, Monday Night Football, you know, although popular, isn't going to draw the type of ratings that hockey is here. Hockey's not going to draw the same type of ratings in America that football is. And you go to Europe in order to combine, just going to draw the type of ratings that Monday Night Football and Hockey Night Canada do. And we've discovered a lot of that even just throughout. I think one of the most interesting is how we've been talking about snowboard cross versus ski cross in Canada. I mean, it's not like the TV coverage is different, but you guys have a lot more success maybe in snowboard cross, and it gets a lot more media attention there. Whereas here, we just got a silver medal, and the guy was almost an afterthought until he won. But I guarantee, as soon as ski cross starts up, I mean, our athletes are going to be all over the coverage here.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, you mentioned hockey. I mean, God, like, we're lucky to get a five-second interlude here. Like, they just show the fights. That's all we ever see here in Australia. They maybe show the medal rounds. Even they're generally pretty good at showing it late at night, but even during this coverage, I haven't seen any. They haven't shown any, like, live. I was watching the Finland-Slovakia game on the app today. But, and I'll watch the Canada-Germany game later on, but that won't be on TV here. It will be on the app. Jarrod, I mean, I don't know if you got anything to add on kind of what's been said there.
JARROD LOOBEEK: Nothing really to add. I just wonder, coming across the podcast, do you think it was an Austrian podcast to start with? Australia Off The Podium.
BEN WATERWORTH: This sounds great.
JARROD LOOBEEK: The confusion and what? Weirdest Austrian accent I've ever heard.
BEN WATERWORTH: I know. That's a lovely accent you've got there. New Jersey, Austria. Oh, g'day, mate. Let's throw another shrimp on the barbie. Also, I want to send a shout out to a long-term fan on Twitter, Don Whelan, who shot us through a message, hoping that myself and Colin are in full recovery. Doesn't give a shit about you, Jarrod. So just saying there.
JARROD LOOBEEK: We don't need any well wishes and perfect days it is.
COLIN HILDING: I think what's funny is our full recovery includes, you know what, we're just going to rest in bed. We're not going to work. We're not going to do this. We're going to record, for me, five o'clock in the morning for you, 10, 11 o'clock at night every night. This is how we recover. You are part of our recovery, Don. So thank you for listening.
BEN WATERWORTH: Thank you. And to everybody else listening who has a message. Well, you know, just messages makes us feel loved. Result wise, today outside of the medals for Australia and Canada. So I'll go through these. And obviously I'm doing Canada because somebody's too lazy to do his own work.
COLIN HILDING: Somebody can't find an easy way to read this on their phones. These two computers are occupied. Don't throw me under the bus, Waterworth.
BEN WATERWORTH: We know Jack slash James got the bronze in the combined, but Broderick Thompson got eighth, Brody Seger ninth, and I believe it was Brody who was posting on Instagram going up the ski lift, asking for slalom advice in between events. I don't know if you saw that. Not often you get an Olympian halfway through the events going, hey, so any advice for the next one? And Trevor Filp did not finish, pulled a Mikaela. So there you go. And look at this, Jack Gower from Ireland 12th in the combined. There's a result. There's an athlete. There's a daily day all possible right there. Ireland getting 12th in skiing. Country that's never even won a medal in the Winter Olympics. So there you go. And the women's 10K. So obviously had a couple of Aussies in that as well as I'm sure Canadians, which we did. Daria Beaty was 18th in that for Canada. Catherine Stewart-Jones, 36 for Canada. Sandrine Brown, 48th for Canada. Jesse Eaton, 51st for Australia. Olivia Buffard, Nesbitt, 61st for Canada. And Off The Podium's Casey Wright was 67th in that event today. In the curling, Canada 6, Norway 5, and the women, that was in the men's, I should say, the women's hit the ice tonight in about 15 minutes. Making much news there, Colin, the curling, is that second win now for Canada?
COLIN HILDING: I mean, this is making all the news in Canada. I'm going to make a bold prediction here and say that the curling coverage is probably going to eclipse even hockey, these Olympics. If the NHL players have been there, it might have been different, but it's just insane. And it's only going to get crazier, especially once the women start.
BEN WATERWORTH: Why is that? I mean, I know curling is huge there, but why is it bigger than the hockey? Is it literally, as you said, no NHL players? That's basically...
COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I mean, we mentioned during Pyeongchang that not having the NHL players kind of put more of a spotlight on the women's hockey, which I would say is similar this time. I mean, Eric Stahl is helping to get a little bit more attention on the men's. And definitely, there's going to be a lot of excitement with the hockey. I mean, there's no doubt about that. But the familiarity of the curlers that we've sent this time with everybody in all three of the men's, women's, and then the mix all being returning Olympians, there's a lot of excitement because it's not just, oh, we've got this curler qualified. It's like, oh, we've got this person that you have fond memories of watching them in Vancouver or Sochi or Pyeongchang.
BEN WATERWORTH: Meanwhile, Dean and Tali are back home. I think Tali is just sitting on the couch enjoying the Olympics. And Dean was at the ice house tonight.
COLIN HILDING: Somehow she caught COVID again.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, well, I mean, I could literally go over and say hello to Dean right now, but kind of got COVID, can't leave the hotel. So in the figure skating, as we said, Brendan Carey, 17th great result. That's his best result ever at an Olympic Games. And Keegan Messing was 11th for Canada in that one.
COLIN HILDING: I don't know how much you guys watched, but did you see Keegan?
BEN WATERWORTH: I did not see Keegan. Did I miss out on something hilarious or?
COLIN HILDING: Just the greatest wardrobe and the most Canadian wardrobe ever because he went out there basically in like a plaid shirt. You got to see it. Especially with the music playing, all I could think about the entire time was that Monty Python Lumberjack song.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, it's a lumberjack and he's all cool. I do love the music choices, though. I did love Brendan's skater to a bit of Muse, a bit of Butterflies and Hurricanes, and Nathan Chen has had the Elton John mega mix going on there, which was pretty cool. And there's always somebody who fucking skates to Gladiator. Like, seriously, is this just a prerequisite at the Olympics now? Everyone who's doing Gladiator this year, like, oh, it's up to you now, OK. Obviously, the aerials mix team finals is on right now, as I said, Canada through to the final of that one, so they've got a 75% chance of a medal. Ice hockey, the men's team hit the ice tonight. Sweet, sweet revenge for Germany. I'm the only one in the world who clearly gives a shit about this. I was trying to spread it around Channel 7 today, and everyone was like, so? I guess I'll be the one person who wants to seek revenge. Team USA up against China. The other games today, Sweden beat Latvia 3-2, and Finland defeated Slovakia 6-2. I think I've said before, if Canada can't win the gold, I'm rooting for Finland. They are the country, to me, that deserves an Olympic gold medal in the men's ice hockey the most. The team really...
COLIN HILDING: Til Trinidad and Tobago's in.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, very thoroughly deserved. Can I just point out that China are only ranked one spot ahead of Australia in the world rankings in ice hockey, and yet they're at the fucking Olympics right now. So just saying, you know, it's been 62 long years of Australia not being at the Winter Olympics in ice hockey. So come on. Come on, team Australia. Come on, the mighty Roos.
COLIN HILDING: If you can start Hobart 2034, it might happen.
BEN WATERWORTH: We'll talk about Hobart shortly when it comes to something along those lines. Big news around that. The Team Luge obviously is happening. Skeleton started today in the men's Off The Podium. Nick Timmings ranked 25th out of 25 Skeleton athletes. Got a pretty big shit start, unfortunately, for Nick. I don't think he was too happy that he kind of got away from him at the beginning, and he slid right to the wall.
COLIN HILDING: I got a commentary thing on him later on too.
BEN WATERWORTH: Jarrod, was that the Off The Podium curse just right in front of our eyes? Like, here goes Nick, pull me to the wall.
JARROD LOOBEEK: It has to be. That made me feel good about my chances if I ended Skeletons, because it's the one straight section of the track, and then just......beens straight to the wall. And then he did really well the rest of the way down, but it screwed up the entire run. It was like every wall that he could possibly hit, boom, boom, side to side. Like, gotta love it.
BEN WATERWORTH: It literally reminded me of Cool Running the first time they go in the sled, how you literally see them push off and they bank straight into the wall. It's like, hold it, hold it, hold it! We're not bum sledding yet! Oh, yes, we are! Just little Nick going down on his sled. Oh, Nick, bless his little heart. Again, if people ever want to see the Off The Podium curse in front of their eyes, watch Nick Timming start the skeleton. But yes, he's sadly 25th out of 25. But it's not like the luge, so it's not like you've got to be in the top 20 to get through. I mean, it might be the final run, but so at least we'll get a third run. The Canadian side of things, Blake Enzey, 19th. So that is where the leader of that one is Christopher Grothea of Germany, in case they didn't even win any more sliding medals going on there. Obviously, in the Snowboard Cross, we went over the Aussies. There were a couple of other Canadians, were there not, in that as well. Where they finished, I will pull up in just a second. The women's Halfpipe, I believe you had a Canadian in there, did you not? You had two. Elizabeth Hosking was sixth, and Brooke Dont was tenth. So better luck next time, champs. In the Snowboard Cross, the other Canadians, Liam Moffat went out in the one eighth finals, and Kevin Hill also went out in the one eighth finals.
COLIN HILDING: Hey, I nearly avoided a bit of a curse there, because I had Kevin Hill lined up to come on the show a couple of years ago, and time never worked out. So you're welcome. It's not our fault.
BEN WATERWORTH: Never is. What are you talking about? And we'll say in the Women's 5000m Speed Skating, Isabel Wiedemann will be back to try and get another medal. Obviously, I already won a bronze in these Olympics. So she'll be aiming for another one there. What did we watch, gentlemen? Let's start with you, Jarrod. What did you watch today?
JARROD LOOBEEK: I caught a little bit of the Alpine Combined Slalom, bits and pieces of the Curling. I saw a fair bit of the Figure Skating and then the Snowboard Cross, like we mentioned, and the Skeleton.
BEN WATERWORTH: I still haven't watched any of the team curling. I'm a bit sad to admit that, but I'll get there eventually. Colin, what did you watch today?
COLIN HILDING: Almost identical to Jarrod, just with the exception that I saw a little bit of in the Women's Great Britain, because that was the first one that aired last night. And I'm actually watching the Alpine combined for the second time right now, because I had finished recording it when Casper came down and then he unplugged it. So I'm recording it for a second time now, but great event. Fantastic.
BEN WATERWORTH: He wanted to watch the Figure Skating, Colin. Just put it on for him.
COLIN HILDING: Yeah, that's what he was waiting for. Yeah, he wanted to see the Lumberjack song. But yeah, Figure Skating, Half Pipe, Snowboard Cross, that was the big one. And Skeleton, of course, can't forget Skeleton.
BEN WATERWORTH: I think covered all the bases. I watched a bit of cross-country skiing today. I was actually pretty excited they were showing that today. So as you know, I'm a bit of a sneaky fan of the cross-country skiing. And ice hockey, always going to put that on when I can. Finland versus Slovakia. So that was pretty good from what I saw of that as well. And the aerials team is happening right now. And how are we feeling about this sport, gentlemen? I don't know how I'm like, do we care about it if there's no Australia in it? I know there's Canada in it, but you know.
COLIN HILDING: I'm feeling 75% positive. I don't know about you.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, it's better than feeling 74% positive, I guess. I just want them to show Dave Morris more. Like that's all I mean for now. Show me more Dave Morris.
COLIN HILDING: Can you just be like the new Waldo of the Olympics? Like we'll just watch him pop up in random events.
BEN WATERWORTH: There's Dave.
COLIN HILDING: Thomas Bach will make his final speech. Instead of a fly, there's going to be David Morris just swarming around his head.
BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, like come on. That would be the best thing ever. Like he and he would do that. Like he would just use his bundle of energy. Dave Morris is bouncing around. I read his autobiography recently and it's one of the best autobiographies I've read. It's brilliant. So brutally honest. But yeah, God, we're all for more Dave Morris. Let's put him up on our screens all the time. Fails. Any, I know Colin, you've got a few. Let's start with Jarrod today. Are you still influenced by the fact that there's a Channel 7 employee on this episode now?
JARROD LOOBEEK: I'm not. And I also didn't have the stream on mute today. So the main one that I got was just, we were just having some issues with nationalities today. Struggling a little bit. And to me, the most glaringly bad one was during the Snowboard Cross, when like, they're talking through the athletes at the gate, and then it comes in like, and next up is the German skateboarder, Yoshiki Takahara, which you think like, okay. And I'm waiting for like the flag and name, kind of like an unusual German name. Flag comes up, happens to be Japanese. No correction from the commentator, just rolls with it. There's the German in the gate, ready to go. So that was a main one for me today.
BEN WATERWORTH: I have to say, one of the days I was there, I met Dave in person and I sort of was, he was going through his methods for, I guess, remembering the athletes. And he had this great system with his papers and everything. It was actually really interesting to kind of see the amount of effort he's got into putting in there to make sure he's got it. He's got literally start sheets printed out with colours on them, so he knows he can write in each heat the name and just the bibs. It was really, really fascinating. But Steph Prem, the expert commentator, Vancouver Olympian, she's great and she's already agreed to come on the show. So again, the perks of working there, you can get a lot of these guests on the show. And I just want to say, and I'm biased, because again, I'm just adding Channel 7. Brilliant. Not a foot wrong at all today. Just so perfect. Really, really fucking good. Even without me there, like they're doing. I mean, I'm there, but I'm just not in studio. I'm working from hotel. Jon O'Brower. I want them to show more of the Alpine skiing. This guy is amazing. He's so much fun to talk to. And we're going to get him on the show as well. Two time Olympian in Alpine skiing. And just such a fun, a bundle of fun. So look forward to getting Jon O on the show. But I don't know, Jarrod, if you've watched much of the Alpine, but get on board the Jon O Brow train. And Matt Hill, like just amazing. He's a horse race commentator. Can I just...
COLIN HILDING: Can I cut in here to just illustrate to people what's going on? Now, when Jarrod gives a commentary fail, Ben basically grovels that he doesn't get fired. But I'm going to tell you, the hard work they put in is admirable. You should see the prep work they do.
BEN WATERWORTH: I'm telling you now, they're paying me to do what I'm doing. I'm going to suck up as much as I can. So call me a sellout every minute of the day, but I don't care. I own that shit. So when Channel 9 hire me for the next Olympics, you wait till I talk about Eddie Maguire and Todd Woodbridge and the gang. Like just wait and see how it goes. Colin, Canada, you've got a few, I feel.
COLIN HILDING: Yeah. So first in the half pipe, it's a different team than we had during the previous one. But this guy, not Craig McMorris, but the other guy, the main commentator, the play by play guy, he also seems to be leaning in towards the bad jokes because Craig McMorris was basically saying after there was I think maybe three or four people who kind of wiped out. All of a sudden, somebody landed their jumps, and he goes, it's just a land fest. Now everyone can land. And then the other guy goes, all runways open. Like with the bad laugh following it as well. We had some good Canadian math here. After Elizabeth Hoskins, the Canadian had gone. He was Elizabeth Hoskins still sitting in third. Well, no, she's actually in fifth. Well, this is fifth place. Hosking is still in fourth. So my mistake. Only a Canadian could do that kind of math. Here's your Nick Timmings. This was fantastic. So verbatim, I hope he's enjoying his Olympic experience because it certainly is an experience.
BEN WATERWORTH: That's Canadian for your shit, Nick.
COLIN HILDING: And this is the main event of the day. I hope if you can't hear this, I'll play it again. There's no way I could do this justice. Basically, just to set up what you're going to hear, you're going to hear somebody making a comment that maybe they shouldn't have made. A very long pause while somebody tries to change the subject, and then the original person backtracking and trying to reinforce their original bad point. So let's see if we can hear this. I'm going to pause this here. There he is, 40 years of age. Looks like somebody you'd see at a Walmart. He loves football, he's here to play, he's putting it all out on the line today. You don't think it's Walmart? Walmart. That was the longest pause I have ever heard. He loves football, he loves the sport, we'll listen to it against Walmart.
BEN WATERWORTH: I like the fact that when they were talking about him on Outcoverage, they were basically talking about, like, follow this guy on social media, he's brilliant, blah, blah, blah. Here's one that I think I shared with you about two weeks ago when they announced the US team, like, we're going to keep an eye on this guy. Because he, like, let's be honest, he looks like a guy who shops at Walmart. He really does, like he actually does. Oh, but that's gold. I'm so glad that Colin doesn't work for CBC.
COLIN HILDING: Like, I never will now.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, hello. I mean, let's go back and listen to the stuff I said about Channel 7 in the last, like, three of these we've done. Something that got me a job. So Colin will be head commentator of The Curling in Milan.
COLIN HILDING: I'm going to be putting in a call to Devin Harow, try to get my referral in. This is what I need to replace. Come on.
BEN WATERWORTH: Breaking news in the Aerials team event. Canada are currently sitting in first place. Having said that, they've had two jumpers and China and USA have only had one. So they're looking good for the bronze. Let's just say that right now. The only fail, like, again, I can't... Channel 7 are brilliant. Perfect. Nothing wrong with them. news.com.au, I've got here the headline of World Mocs Champs Star Trek Costume, followed by Skia Band as Double Drama Rocks Olympics. Skia was from, like, Iraq or something, weren't they? Like, I mean, no disrespect to Iraq or wherever you are from. That's not really a controversy. Like, if you were 47th in the downhill, then, oh, God, who's going to be 47th now? Like, quick, redo the order. Just some other headlines going on right now on news.com.au. Adidas pant for X-rated bra advert. MP found asleep denies soiling his pants. Wallet friendly party supplies sorted. That's good. Kayla's ex spotted with ripped new girlfriend. Mortifying mistake found in dating profile. Glad to see they finally saw my dating profile. Followed by sneaky tax loophole can save you $6,000. So all the big news coming to you from news.com.au. Hashtag, they're still shit. And I will never work for news.com.au. I worked for News Corp. And I'm telling you now, I would sell my soul out for any organisation on this planet except for news.com.au. So no.
COLIN HILDING: I'm surprised that you're not coming up with, Joanna Griggs had some really bad information that must have been passed on from somebody since Ben's been sick.
BEN WATERWORTH: I am actually, well, no, because I don't want to mock my replacement in studio. He's a good guy. But I will say that Joe did manage to sneak in a lovely little reference to Canada's Lance Stroll Formula One driver when talking about Scotty James today. And then I said to her, I'm like, got in Lance Stroll, nice. And she's like, that was for you to make you feel better. I'm like, aw. So just saying. That's amazing. The power that I have over Channel 7 right now, it's influential. God, I really am a suck up. You remember those days on Survivor Ozz? I'm like, I hate him. He's such a suck up. Yeah, I am.
COLIN HILDING: This is why. Hey, you got me a job at Channel 7.
BEN WATERWORTH: So fuck you haters of me and Survivor Ozz.
COLIN HILDING: We talked about that on our 10th anniversary show. All the criticism worth being a suck up. It's like, well, there's reasons why. Exactly.
BEN WATERWORTH: There's a reason behind doing it. Like, I mean, God, I get a job out of it. So, you know, for fuck's sake, when I'm like hosting the next 20 Olympics and people are going, how did that Ben Waterworth get a job? Well, this is why. So simple. Breaking news in the team aerials. Canada in third after two jumpers. So happy bronze.
COLIN HILDING: They're in third after two jumpers? What?
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, like as in the two Canadian jumpers.
COLIN HILDING: OK.
BEN WATERWORTH: No, like as in two people have gone.
COLIN HILDING: I thought you were like two teams have jumped and Canada is somehow in third. I am not very hopeful.
BEN WATERWORTH: It's like the podium thing for Australia before, right? Like fork get on the podium. So that makes sense. Cool. Do we want to do our celebratory day? Yes, we will. Before going to the Daily Dale. Colin, I finally put them up in social media. You're welcome.
COLIN HILDING: Did you?
BEN WATERWORTH: Sort of. I kind of cheated and put like a whole bunch up together. But daily from now on, who is Canada's celebratory day today?
COLIN HILDING: Well, I figure you would be very excited about this one, because Jocelyn Nordmo Day. So Jocelyn Nordmo is Canada's best ever Finnish in Nordic combined, which happened 90 years ago when he finished in 10th place. Now, I just want to illustrate how much of a household name Joffrey Nordmo is as our most successful Nordic combined athlete. This really reinforces the point that Nathaniel Ma, Canada's last Nordic combined athlete, was making last year when he was on the show about how much more this sport needs to develop in Canada. This is the entire Wikipedia page on Jocelyn Nordmo. Jocelyn Nordmo, January 23, 1895 to 1965, was a Canadian skier. He competed in the Nordic combined event at the 1932 Olympics. That is it. The picture that is on our social media of Jocelyn Nordmo is the only picture available anywhere on Google of Jocelyn Nordmo. Now, having said that, you've really got my attention on the sport since you're a big bragger on it. Nathaniel Ma got my attention on the sport. I am happy that Canada has had a 10th place finish, but it's time to do better. It's been 90 years. And you know, the last time that we put up the daily, what are we calling this, the celebratory athlete of the day?
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, sure, that works.
COLIN HILDING: For Canada, in a sport we never meddled in was ski jumping, and we saw what happened that day. So is there still hope for Nordic Combined, Ben? You tell me.
BEN WATERWORTH: Always, always hope, Colin. There is always hope for Nordic Combined. And actually, just on that, it's interesting you say that. We posted about Helena Douday, Australia's only Nordic Combined skier. I think we've discussed before, so how he's actually, there's a fan page for him on Facebook run by one of his daughters, and she shared it basically that we had this day, and commented saying, thank you, dad will be so proud to see this, he's 94 now. And I was chatting a little bit to his daughter again today, because we really would love to get him on the show. And so she's going to try and work out a way to do it again, like he's 94, and I don't think speaks that great English. There's some boundaries to overcome there, but if we can get some form of episode where it's maybe just talking to his daughter about how, because yeah, anything to get in order to combine on the map, Colin. So I'm with you. Well done. I like that. Good job. For Australia, this is one I see that even Colin would have heard of. Happy Tora Bright's Day, obviously, with the women's heart pipe on. No idea.
JARROD LOOBEEK: Never heard of her.
BEN WATERWORTH: I'm choking. I can't think. I'm emotional right now. I just don't know who she is. Obviously, gold medallist from Vancouver for Australia in the heart pipe, silver medallist in Sochi, our equal greatest ever winter Olympian alongside a certain Mr. Dale Begsmith, our greatest ever female winter Olympian, three-time Olympian, flag bearer in Vancouver. I believe our only ever gold medallist to carry our flag in the opening ceremony until maybe Laura in a couple of days. No jinx on there. So, yes, and household name of Australian sport, not just winter sport. But there you go, Jarrod. Tora, Queen Tora. I mean, there's not much you can say about Tora, is there?
JARROD LOOBEEK: No, she's a legend. I think my favourite thing with Tora is the Channel 7 packages, where it really sounds like the word female has been added in like later. Like they've made a mistake. Oh, we forgot about Dale. We've got to say female winter athlete. It's like a completely different tone, and they've like frankenbited it in there. But yeah, she's a legend. Crushing the half pipe and really has like, I feel like she was the start of like Australia's somewhat like legacy and like the half pipe. It's always an event where we've got a couple of athletes there and there's potential to do well.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, no pressure on little old Scotty tomorrow, but we've meddled in that event every year now since Tora got gold back in there. And I think a lot of people forget about her silver in Sochi, which was another great run, very close to getting gold in that. So, yeah, amazing. It's actually fascinating you say that about the packages, because I've really enjoyed the little... And this is not just me sucking up. Like I legitimately, if I wasn't working with Channel 7, actually enjoyed the packages where they're doing like the, you know, history things. They've done a great one on Zali. And they've actually, I don't know if you've seen the Dale Begsmith one, they've done a couple. And I think it was yesterday when Joe came back in on air, she's like, oh, it's such a great interview. Very difficult interview though. But Joe talked about that when we did the interview on that. So hello, Dale, if you're listening basically out there as well. Speaking of Dale, his excellency, the Daily Dale, our athlete of the day, I've got a couple here for this. Jarrod, what about you? Do you as well?
JARROD LOOBEEK: I do. I have a couple. Wow, look at us.
BEN WATERWORTH: We've done our homework, guys. Oh, look at us. You got your go champs. Well done. Jarrod, start us off. Who have you got as potentials?
JARROD LOOBEEK: Well, I'll start with the most serious one, which is our favourite Carole Castellet in the women's snowboard halfpipe. Just winning that silver Spain, their first silver medal at the Winter Olympics, their fifth Winter Olympic medal overall, I just think is a big achievement. And then the other, I mean, how could I go past Nick Timmings? I'm just so proud. That's the winter Olympic effort that I want to see is like crashing on the straight section of the course, crashing even earlier than our bestie in the alpine skiing. So yeah, Nick, what a legend. Just the fact too that he did manage to just hold it together throughout the rest of the course after a disastrous start was impressive.
BEN WATERWORTH: I can't imagine if Roy and HG were still around, that that wouldn't be getting a lot of airtime right now. I'm looking forward to the summer chill this weekend to see how that gets the airtime. Sorry, Colin.
COLIN HILDING: I was just going to say, I mean, he's already had the Olympic experience. Does he really need anything else?
BEN WATERWORTH: We need to get him back on the show just to be like, so about that first run, did you have any others, Jarrod?
JARROD LOOBEEK: No, Nick Timmings' helmet, maybe.
BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, yeah, Nick Timmings' helmet. No penguins though. Bit disappointed on that one. Can I also just quickly add, just on naming things and that, Breeze shared a few pictures of the sled. I know she had a monobob training run tonight, got fastest in the first run at least, so that was good. But I commented a couple of times about Ben, and she kind of commented back going, Ben's doing good. So I think Breeze might be officially naming this sled Ben, so I'm just saying. If she chokes, we know why. Colin, who have you got up?
COLIN HILDING: So I have two, although I did consider as an honourable mention the Spanish woman Jarrod mentioned, but you already mentioned the big story for the alpine combined guy, Johann Strolls, with his father winning the gold medal, which I thought was fantastic. And actually, my second one also, as I was saying, very big day for Austria, was Alessandro Hamerle, the guy who won the gold in the snowboard cross. Now, I had to really do digging for this because they were basically trying to comment on how he was the underdog coming into this. And you often hear that, you're like, oh, well, maybe he hasn't had a World Cup finish in a while. His only huge success he had was he had silver in the World Championships last year. Prior to that, he's been competing since 2010, I believe. And he has only reached a World Cup podium twice in his entire career. Once was in 2012, and the other time was in 2014. So he is eight years off even a World Cup podium, and he's somehow upset and wins the gold by the slimmest of margins over Canada. But I'm going for two Austrians to actually be Canadians today.
BEN WATERWORTH: Just saying, the Daily Dale is not kind of Colin's internet right now. Just some local connections. We did, we did, it was very robotic. I'm glad that you've got that transplant finally. I know, right? You've got the Robocron format there basically. Breaking news in the aerial teams. In fourth place, Switzerland. In third place, Canada. In second place, the People's Republic of China. It is gold to the USA. They've come out of nowhere in that final round, and they've taken the gold. And I do love how Team Canada are celebrating with a Canadian flag attached to an ice hockey stick.
COLIN HILDING: That's been a thing since Kingsbury. I'm not even the first one to do that. Have you seen that from anybody else?
BEN WATERWORTH: I have now. So good to note that. But after USA had a bit of a drought with no gold, they're just shitting it in right now. Just calm down, team. They shouldn't have brought it up the other day.
COLIN HILDING: Now they're going to win everything.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, Canada's drought. Like, come on, they've got to like do some things. So, OK, I've got a few. A couple have been mentioned, but a couple of honourable mentions, I think, one honourable mention in particular. An Italian snowboarder by the name of Filippo Ferrari. Now, look, you probably think with a name like that, the guy should be fast. The guy should do pretty well. And I was down for this guy. Oh, yes, this guy, he's my man. Come on, Filippo Ferrari. First run, comes out of the blocks, faceplants. About six seconds off the pace. Okay, he'll do well on the second run. Second run, out of the blocks, faceplants again. This time doesn't even get up. My man Filippo, he fucked up. So hopefully that's on an open for how Ferrari going to go this year in Formula One. Donovan Carrillo, a Mexican figure skater, became the first ever Mexican figure skater to make it through to the second part of men's... Excuse me, I get very emotional talking about Mexican figure skaters. So I thought an honourable mention to him. I've got Terese Johag down, but again, I don't know if we allow drug cheats to win the Daily Dale. It's Soil is the great name of Dale Begg Smith. I also had down James slash Jack Crawford for breaking the drought for Canada in that event. But I'm maybe swayed a little bit to Johanna Strolls because I think that's a great story. You know, dad wins it 34 years ago. I don't know if that's ever been done before in Winter Olympics. It says a research. I probably should have looked that up. But no disrespect to your choice, Colin, because it's a great story. But how many snowboarders have we had? I know they're different events, but I mean, come on, like, are we going to do that in speed skating? Well, they're in the 5000 metres, not the 1000 metres. Like, I mean, you know. No. He's going to throw a chair again.
COLIN HILDING: No, I don't know. Was there a question?
BEN WATERWORTH: I kind of lost. Look, I put Johannes Strolls as my main one down, just because I think it's a great story. And we haven't had an Alpine ski yet until Esther. So I'm confused.
COLIN HILDING: Why am I throwing a chair? Because you were agreeing with me.
BEN WATERWORTH: Because you were fighting for your snowboarder guy, the Austrian. And I'm like, well, how many snowboarders have we had?
COLIN HILDING: I said the first one I mentioned was Johannes Stroll, and then I mentioned the snowboarder guy to explain the story. But those were my two choices.
BEN WATERWORTH: He's very snarky, Jarrod.
COLIN HILDING: Why don't I just pick up this chair and throw it then?
JARROD LOOBEEK: It's the robot Stark for me that does it.
BEN WATERWORTH: You do you. So are we going with Johannes?
JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, if we're not picking Nick Timming's helmet, then I suppose.
COLIN HILDING: I wanted to mention though that Mexican figure skater you talked about. I thought about it, maybe an honourable mention, but it is ridiculous how much attention he's getting on CBC here. That has been as big of a story as our own skaters.
BEN WATERWORTH: I mean, I'm not going to move because I'm watching CBC. Clearly, I'm not watching CBC, but I've seen he's getting a fair bit of attention in terms of that, which I think is a great thing. It's always good when you have these nations that I guess aren't perceived as winter nations. Obviously, Jarrod and I live in one. But I don't think you can maybe expect an Australian figure skater or something new. We've had figure skaters in most Olympics. It's one of our most prominent sports we've ever had. Whereas I don't think I'd ever consider a figure skater coming from Mexico. So, good for you. Well done. Good chin up, champ.
COLIN HILDING: Good job, you Mexican.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well done, you. You good to you. I don't know what's so funny. So, before we look ahead to tomorrow, and before we go over...
COLIN HILDING: You know what?
BEN WATERWORTH: Yes?
COLIN HILDING: There was one event. You told the listeners that you would update them on that didn't finish yesterday, the luge doubles.
BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, you are correct, Colin Hilding. God, you're so good.
COLIN HILDING: And it was a big one.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, in more ways than one, if you know what I mean. Three in a row was this not to Tobias Wendel and Tobias Alt of Germany. I mean, if you're going to put any money on at the Olympics for an event, gotta say luge, always bet on Germany. Probably a good thing to do. Just maybe not too sure there. Gold for Germany, silver for Tony Eggert and Sascha Bennecken of Germany. And Germany Jr. Austria got the bronze. That's probably offensive. Sorry to our Austria. Oh, jeez, I'm getting hate mailed. We got a message from Austria yesterday.
COLIN HILDING: We gave you the Daily Dale. You can be Austria Jr. Sorry.
BEN WATERWORTH: Lorenz Koller of Austria. I don't know the history. Is that like calling Australia New Zealand Jr.? I mean, you know, there's a certain guy who everyone thinks is German is actually Austria, but we don't bring that up. I'm actually really sad that we're not going to be on air for the team relay, because that is just such an insane event. That's coming up very, very shortly. But great result there for Germany. They've had a really solid games in the Bluge. Didn't expect that from them really. But so what they had three in a row in the doubles Luge with Tobias and Tobias. They're both Tobias, aren't they? Yes, of course they are. And then for Natalie. Good for Natalie. Not doing too well on the singles, though, in the men's. Come on, Johannes Ludwig. Bronze and then gold. Come on, pick your game up. I'd love to know. I know we've got Austrian listeners, but if we've got German listeners, are these Luges, are they just, is that like the Sidney Crosby of Germany? Like, if you're walking down the street and you bump into Natalie, is she just like goddess and you just, you bow down and paparazzi around her? Because I'm sure if Natalie walked down the street in Melbourne, people were like, who's the woman with the sled? Like, why is she from Germany? Like, I don't know. I'm sure if, you know, Ian Thorpe walks down the street in Berlin, everyone's going to be like, why is there a really tall guy with swimming costume on? Whereas we know Sidney Crosby could walk down the street in, like, Burkina Faso. Everyone's going to be like, ah, it's Sidney Crosby. What would you do if you walked down the street, Colin, and there was Sidney Crosby? You're going to be like, sup, Sidney, how you doing?
COLIN HILDING: I probably would just feel like, is that Sidney Crosby? That's what I would say to him. Is that Miss Sidney Crosby?
BEN WATERWORTH: And he'd be like, no, it's Melbourne Crosby. That's a bad joke. Just to see if he responds to that, and I'd be like, yes, it is. It's funny. One thing I wanted to mention, we talked about before, breaking news in Hobart bids for things. People will remember about, what was it? Two, three years ago, two years ago, I think it was, in the annual inflate Ben Mortewis ego, let's do an episode on him, thing that we often do on all the shows that we're involved in. We talked about a little thing called the Hobart Olympic bid, a joke Olympic bid that went a little bit too far many, many years ago. Hilarious. It was announced today that Tasmania are formally bidding for the 2026 Commonwealth Games. Now, this is just broken news by the ABC in Australia that the Premier of Tasmania, Peter Gartwood, apparently is contacting the Commonwealth Games Federation. It's not just a Hobart bid, it's a Tasmania bid between Launceston and Hobart as it is. And this is just ridiculous because every city in Australia, I think, has put their hand up to host the 2026 Commonwealth Games. The EMU Plains bid is just formalising the printing phase, is it not, Jarrod? I think Winnipeg is up for the Commonwealth Games. It's the Commonwealth Games that no one wants to host, apparently. They're just desperate months away from Birmingham. What are they going to throw to in the closing ceremony? And now the package of the next Commonwealth Games. Oh, that's not available. Moving on. It's odd because, kind of say, I had about five people tag me in this. I had people literally going, like, well, this is Ben Waterworth's idea. Where's this going on? All that sort of stuff. Yeah. And I would like to take some credit for this. Thank you very much. That if we are officially bidding, you're welcome, Peter Gutwin, Premier of Tasmania, that you can have this and take this on board. I expect to be at least credited in the footnotes of this bid somewhere, that this was even put on the radar. I don't know. But we're not going to win. I'm just saying this right now. Somebody who basically came up with the idea, even I legitimately had no confidence. Jarrod, I mean, would you support a Tasmania bid for the Commonwealth Games?
JARROD LOOBEEK: No, 100%. I think it's unrealistic, but that's in the spirit of the Commonwealth Games, right? You got some lawn bowls venues in Tasmania, surely?
BEN WATERWORTH: We actually got some solid ones, to be completely fair. I'm still saying, as I think I replied to a tweet today, as long as they name one of the arenas Regina Arena after Reggie Bird from Big Brother, then that's where we're going for it there. Colin, if Hobart slash Tasmania wins the Commonwealth Games, you're going to be on a plane and go to the Commonwealth Games in 2026?
COLIN HILDING: If you're going to pay my airfare, maybe. I will happily watch it, but we only need one on the ground correspondent, and I think between me and Jarrod, the cost of me going probably isn't as realistic for our show's budget.
BEN WATERWORTH: It's always about Colin's money, isn't it, Jarrod? Like, you know, oh, boohoo, I've got COVID. Oh, I can't buy groceries this week, and oh, Jamie doesn't know who Mikael Kingsbury is. Just, Colin, just say yes. Just say yes, I'd love to go. Like, Jarrod plays along. Jarrod, like Jarrod, let's ask Jarrod a question. Jarrod, how many times do you vote today in the Off Sports Podcast Awards? Lots. Apparently not, no. Oh, he's gone. Young Army was offended by the question.
COLIN HILDING: He doesn't even, Batman can go a long time without blinking. That's impressive.
BEN WATERWORTH: Oh no, he's back. All right, let's try that again. Jarrod, you won't be able to play along that seriously. How many times did you vote in the...
COLIN HILDING: Ben tries to use Jarrod to make a point, and Jarrod's internet backfires.
BEN WATERWORTH: He hangs up. He just doesn't like, Ben, I'm not playing these jokes with you.
JARROD LOOBEEK: I was busy voting. I had to leave the line to vote.
BEN WATERWORTH: See, look at that, Colin. Jarrod can play along perfectly. If that was Colin answering, Ben, I couldn't possibly answer that because I can't do this and I can't afford it. Canadian and Australian humour on the same page. But get behind the beard for Tasmania Commonwealth Games. You know, the funniest thing is Dean Winter, who is now a member of Tasmanian Parliament, formerly mayor of Kingburn, had him on my radio show many, many years ago. And he used to play along with the beard. You know, he was one of the ones. He literally tweeted out today saying like, Ben Waterworth wrote a very successful satire bid for this years ago. The problem is it was satire. This is real with like a facepalm emoji. Basically like mocking the premier. So, you know, and I just, I would say the deputy premier, he, I, there was some like online thing they did like 10 years ago. It was like, submit your grand ideas for Tasmania, and you can get like a one-on-one with the then sports minister. So I submitted it. I won it. Literally, I think there was two entries, so it wasn't that hard to win. And so I got like my photo taken with like the sports minister, like shaking hands, like being all like, oh, talking about the Hobart Olympic. He's now the deputy fucking premier, and he's probably going to be all like, yes, we formally. I'm like, dude, you're fucking stealing my ideas.
JARROD LOOBEEK: Without the document.
BEN WATERWORTH: Come on. Like, I want some credit on this somewhere. Like, anyway, that's actually happening tomorrow. Day seven. Can you believe we're a week in big day? It's Queen Esther Day number two as she goes to defend the super G. Now, we know at least one person is going to be crashing out of that event, so she's got one less person to beat. But also, off the podiums, Greta Small should be in this event tomorrow as well. But like, I feel bad the other day, because we weren't able to pump up the Esther tie, because that was the day I died basically, so I couldn't really get involved and get pumped and get excited. But Queen Esther Day number two, Jarrod, tomorrow, the one that she shocked the world in four years ago. How are we feeling? She's already got one gold. Can she do the double-double?
JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I'm confident. You're confident?
BEN WATERWORTH: You're calling it the double-double? All right. Colin, again, is Esther getting news over there for the double-double?
COLIN HILDING: I don't know. Not really. I mean, enough that they're willing to cover the event, which is a big thing. But I just want it on record that if this doesn't happen, if she doesn't win the double-double, I did suggest giving her the Daily Deal a few days ago. And I said, well, what if? But then again, if it happens, it's going to be my jinks and it's my fault anyway. So I'll just shut up now.
BEN WATERWORTH: It's always your fault. But she's still got the downhill though. So she's still got another chance again. We'll just give it to her anyway. She competed in the downhill. She crashed. She pulled in Mikaela's shit friend.
COLIN HILDING: What if she ends up with a double triple?
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, then she's fucking goddess, and she will win the daily, the Olympic day. I don't know what we'll call them, the one in the end. Life. She wins the life, Dale. She just literally becomes Dale Begg Smith. That's what happens. Like you just transform Dale Begg Smith.
COLIN HILDING: And we will never see her again.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah. And then come Milan. She is the daily Esther, the I don't even know what the Ladeca. Yeah, I don't know where I'm going with that. I guess the other one that we should probably talk about in releasing opportunity for Australia, because I haven't heard anything about it. I don't know. I've never seen any promotion for it. I have to hop up on tomorrow. Jarrod, don't know. Maybe. Possibly.
JARROD LOOBEEK: The greatest final of all time.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, that might be a little bit of an oversell. Obviously, Scotty. Everyone loves Scotty. Scotty too hotty. And of course, we've got Air Vincent or whatever the fuck they're calling it. I don't know. How are we feeling? Like, I think we both said silver, didn't we? Like, I didn't put him on my medal wins of my four. But I don't know. Like, I feel we're overlooking the Japanese guy who comes in as number one qualifier. I don't feel Sean's going to get the gold, but I don't know. I'm calling this now Scotty for the silver. That's what I'm saying.
JARROD LOOBEEK: Yeah, I said it the other day. I feel like it's a minor medal. I think I said bronze. I feel like this is like the Jess Fox moment. But yeah, I just don't have a good feeling about gold.
BEN WATERWORTH: Air Valentino. I'll correct myself. Not Air Vincent. Ben, come on, Mr. Researcher. Ayumu Hirano, of course, is who we're talking about. The Japanese, who also competed in skateboarding, I believe, in Tokyo last year as well. Colin, is this, I mean, does this get much attention, the halfpipe, because of Sean Wyatt? I mean, you got no Canadians in the final, but I mean, is a halfpipe a big talking point for Canada?
COLIN HILDING: Yeah, almost to the point where I wish that they would show something else, because I don't have a problem with the halfpipe, but it is far from my favourite snowboarding event or even fancy trickery event. I don't know what you could call them. But I mean, the news story is mostly Sean White. Right now, not necessarily the event itself. What I'm actually really excited for tomorrow is my new favourite sport, ski jumping, is back. So maybe live commentary if we happen to be awake at that time.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, that's probably not going to happen, because we've done so well on the commentary of these Olympics, haven't we? Obviously, you know, reasons behind that. But yeah, Casey hitting the hills again tomorrow, Casey Larson, of course, for the USA, as they aim to break their 100-odd-year medal drought in the ski jumping since 1924.
COLIN HILDING: He is our best chance at an Off The Podium gold.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, you've just jinxed him now. Thanks for that. So yeah, the medal events tomorrow. Yeah, the Women's Super G, obviously. Queeness back out there. Biathlon, women's sprint cross-country, men's 15-kilometre classical. Short track, the women's 1,000 metres is on tomorrow. The men's skeleton, Nick, you never know, could come back. It's only six seconds off the pace. Stranger things have happened. Men's half-pipe, as I said, might be on tomorrow. Don't know. And in the speed skating, breaking news in the speed skating, the 10,000 metres is on tomorrow. But I think a lot of people were talking about certain Sven Kramer winning three in a row, four in a row, I should say. I'm thinking of the wrong event. I'm going to stop myself because I am definitely thinking of the wrong event tomorrow. There is a chance, I believe it is in the biathlon or the cross country, where we could have a four-time Olympic medal. It is. It's in. Sorry. I'm going to stop myself.
COLIN HILDING: You would think we had it at the start.
BEN WATERWORTH: No, this is staying in to embarrass the paid researcher on this show right now. The Men's 10,000m is on tomorrow in the speed skating. But what I'm thinking of in the cross country skiing tomorrow, Switzerland's Dario Kologna, if he is to win gold in that event, will become the first ever Winter Olympian to win four of the same event four times in a row. Sven Kramer couldn't do it, so can Dario do it for Switzerland. The great Swiss.
COLIN HILDING: Are you sure now?
BEN WATERWORTH: I'm looking in it right now. I am 99.
COLIN HILDING: We've got that.
BEN WATERWORTH: Solid. Channel 7, you've got a great employee right now. I thoroughly deserve the money you're paying me right now for the research. Who is more of a lock tomorrow? Him, Scotty James or Esther? Michaela. Michaela. OK, sure. We'll go with that. It's been fun. And yeah, Off The Podium guests tomorrow in action. Charles Hamlin will be in the relay tomorrow. The heats of the 5000 metres. Greta, as I said, in the Super G. Casey Larson in the large hill. And Nick Timmings. Good luck, Nick. We're sorry that that happened to you. You shouldn't have come on the show. That is warning to any guest who wants to come on the show. From that point on, watch Nick. Jarrod, thank you very much. And again, you voted a lot today. Good job.
JARROD LOOBEEK: You know it. I will day every day.
BEN WATERWORTH: The internet just keeps cutting out. That's how much you are. And Colin. From one COVID to the other. That's our COVID greeting. That's secret COVID handshake. You're welcome. Until tomorrow. I'm literally dying. I'm being good. So episode like, follow, subscribe, social media, all that. Thanks for listening. If you're in Austria or in America and all the other great places. Special shout out, I should say, to our listeners in Saudi Arabia. I know you're loving the show. And vote for a sports podcast awards.com. Today's episode, solid, solid episode. Absolutely worthy of the sports podcast awards. So sports podcast award.com. You hear it at the beginning and the end. You don't hear me say it again. Shout out to Jason Momoa. And until tomorrow, remember, go left.
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