Beijing 2022 Day 10 Review
It's a loved up day 10 of Beijing 2022 with action aplenty, medals galore and so much stuff to talk about that you should probably already be listening by the time you read this! How is Canada feeling about (technically) winning the gold in the monobob? Or are we only counting the bronze? How did Ben do in the monobob and is he pleased with his debut Olympic run by finishing 5th? Are we heartbroken over the aerials or more heartbroken over the OTP curse continuing? What noises is Colin excited to talk about that were made by the CBC today? And are there some winter events that we are maybe starting to question as being part of the Olympics? Get all romantic up in here for another episode of your favourite Olympic podcast!
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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BEN WATERWORTH: It is Off The Podium coming to you once again for another Beijing 2022 Daily Recap. We're into Day 10 double digits. An exciting one for you because we are literally coming to you right now in the middle of something exciting. The Women's Aerials Finals is on as we speak. Is it? It is, yes.
COLIN HILDING: I don't know, Canada just barely got bumped out, so...
BEN WATERWORTH: Right. So you're not caring about it anymore, or you're not watching it, or...?
COLIN HILDING: Oh, no, I'm watching. I'm just, I'm just, we were this close.
BEN WATERWORTH: Right. Well, sorry, Australia knocked you out. We'll get to that. Colin's here. Hello, Colin. Welcome back to Off The Podium. How are you feeling today, besides Canada getting knocked out of the Women's Aerials?
COLIN HILDING: I mean, I'm feeling good because hockey went well, curling went well. Most things went well.
BEN WATERWORTH: The monoblock went well?
COLIN HILDING: Mark McMorris did not go well, so I guess a little bit of karma.
BEN WATERWORTH: You got parrot in, that's enough. But we're going to talk about all of those because we're going to get straight into the thicker things right now. Because literally the six person final, final two, or as they're calling it, the super final, even though I don't think they call it the super final anymore, but apparently we still do in Australia, has literally just started. Laura Peele somehow got in. I'm a bit questioning that. She did kind of land and put her hands on the snow and knocked out the Canadian. But I'm just saying justice for Dave Morris in Pyeongchang. The judges needed to fix that up. But even I was a bit iffy on her making it through. Danielle Scott sadly has not made it through, but we're on to the second jumper now. So the reigning champion, Bella Roshan has jumped. Now we've got Megan Nick from the USA, who she is now the second jumper. So this is one jump. They only get one jump essentially in this final, and then the medals are decided. So Megan's going now. She does a flip. She does a flip. She lands it, and good job.
COLIN HILDING: Well done. Good.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yes, I do know what Colin.
COLIN HILDING: 30 seconds ahead of me. I'm trying to think if it was Sochi maybe, where like, here's one of the great things about the big final, the super final, whatever you want to call it, is that you get one jump. And I think it was Sochi where five out of the six jumpers all wiped out. And basically, we had a gold medallist by default. Was that the men's or the women's? It was the women's, I believe.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, Lydia, I know Lydia got the bronze in that basically because she was the first to do basically a jump. I can't remember the name of it. It's never been done before. And it was basically a man's jump. And had she landed it, she would have won by like 20 points or something like that. She didn't land it because it was such a high degree of difficulty, she still got the bronze. But yeah, I know, because Dave Morris obviously got the silver in that one. And sort of, I know, I think the last two crashed with him as well. At least one of them crashed. So yeah, I like this. I like this one jump and that's it. But I think we've got Laura coming up next. Oh, she's put us through the ring and has dear old Laura this evening. So she's the third jumper now. Shouldn't be in this final, let's be honest. But right now, she's in the midway point of this. And this is Off The Podium's last chance for gold. Well, Charles Hamlin, sorry, Charles, tomorrow night. I predicted this, I called this. Let's be honest, this is Ben Waterworth's last chance for a gold.
COLIN HILDING: This is the Ben Waterworth vanity commentary here.
BEN WATERWORTH: She goes, bend down, she's ready to go, arms in the air, she flips, she twists, she flips, she doesn't land it down.
COLIN HILDING: The Canadian came and hit her with a bat on the way down. That was an incredible hit from the Canadian.
BEN WATERWORTH: That hurts. That hurts.
COLIN HILDING: It hurts for you, but I'm glad. I'm sorry to say.
BEN WATERWORTH: It's not just for me. That hurts for Australia. She was probably our last actual chance of a medal at these Olympics. And you've got to feel for her. You've got to, she just, just both her and Daniel just did not look, just did not look good tonight. They look really good today, but that's, yeah, that's hard to watch. That's really hard to watch.
COLIN HILDING: Breaking news, Ben does it again. Thanks, Ben.
BEN WATERWORTH: This Off The Podium curse has got to die one day.
COLIN HILDING: You have a reigning world champion that you have taken out of the Olympics.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, this is, this is just embarrassing. Seriously, stop coming on the show Olympians. Just, just, just stop it. Just seriously stop it. I just don't know how else to say it. So we've just got to hope that the next three crash even heavier than Laura. That's all I can say. She's in the bronze. She's in the bronze right now. This is the one time I will say this. And I, I don't know if this is a weird thing to say. I've never really cheered for China in anything before, but I actually would like to see one of these Chinese aerialists win, because China have never won female aerials ever. And they've like, I think they've got like last four silvers, four out of the last, five out of the last six silvers. So if you want one country to win a gold here, it's China. So we've got our next Chinese competitor is up now. I didn't see her name. And I'm not going to try and guess it, because I've already been bad enough. And he said, Oh, gold, Jesus Christ. She might be dead.
COLIN HILDING: I am definitely behind you.
BEN WATERWORTH: Oh my goodness. That she'd like face planted. I don't know.
COLIN HILDING: I don't know. It was in the team event. I have the video. I'll send it to you. There was, I believe it was one of the Chinese.
BEN WATERWORTH: She's cheering the crowd. Sorry.
COLIN HILDING: But I think it was one of the Chinese men who basically landed the jump, did a front flip like by falling and managed to land on his skis properly, which is better than Laura did. Yeah.
BEN WATERWORTH: Did she get a bonus point for that?
COLIN HILDING: She should have, but didn't.
BEN WATERWORTH: I think if you land like, was it the slope style in the, I know the big air in the skiing, there was a skier who she landed on one leg and broke one of her other skis. I'm like, she should get bonus points. She landed on one leg. You know, held the landing just with one leg. The American back in Atlanta when she landed on one leg because she broke her ankle, basically. So, oh, she, ow, geez, she did faceplant. Ouch. That's got to leave a mark. But what's better in the air? Oh, no, she's fourth. Okay, so, Laura for bronze.
COLIN HILDING: Well, I'm just watching the replay now. It looks like somebody pile-drived her into the snow.
BEN WATERWORTH: So we've got two more left. Basically.
COLIN HILDING: I can't stop watching. I want to see it again. Like it's brutal. It's terrible, but I want to see it again. How does she even, how is she standing right now?
BEN WATERWORTH: I'm just applauding her, the fact that she literally gets up and she's like basically doing like the yeah, to the crowd. That's the most energetic I've ever seen a Chinese athlete at the Olympics ever.
COLIN HILDING: Are you like me though, where it doesn't matter, whoever is the host country, you really do pull for them?
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, for the most part. I mean, if it was Britain, probably not. I mean, I guess I'd be in London, but I mean, it depends on who I hate that month. Yeah, I do. But like it's odd when it's like China, when you're just so used to, or like if it's America or like Russia, when they win all the time anyway. So you just kind of like, you know, our next Chinese ski is going up now. She's flipping, she's twisting, she's flipping, and she's landed. Well, good job. That should reverse. That looked better than the other ones. So that could be gold for China.
COLIN HILDING: You've lost your bronze.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, she's not gonna get a medal, Laura. Oh, she's pumped. I said, this is what I'm liking about this. Like I'm loving the, like, this is not trying to be disrespectful to Chinese Olympians, but you never see emotion from Chinese Olympians. So like they're very like professional. They're kind of like Russians. Like they just, they go out there, they do their job and they get the medal and they go home and they don't get murdered. So like, you know, this is, she's in tears. She's pumping. I love this. This is great.
COLIN HILDING: Like I've had Chinese friends who have actually explained to me the reasoning behind not showing emotion and stuff like that. And there are reasons, like cultural reasons why they don't show a lot of emotion. So this is great. Cause you don't see this in the summer Olympics, definitely. Maybe it's the winter Olympics thing. Maybe it is because, you know, some of these athletes aren't originally from China. Do you know that some of these athletes aren't originally from China?
BEN WATERWORTH: No, what are you talking about? They're all Chinese. Colin, I mean, come on. Half those hockey players, they're more Chinese than Wei Lin. I don't know. Like, I mean, fictional character, Ben. Yeah, it is fascinating though, like the cultural, because I guess it kind of goes back to a point when we say like, we're maybe a bit sick of seeing the Chloe Kims, the Sean Whites, all this American centralised sort of, it's a personality thing, it's a media thing, there's a hype around it. That's what it is. In different countries around the world, it's almost just like a job. It is just like you are a professional athlete, you were expected to win a gold medal. Oh, she's in tears. Oh, she's got the gold. She's in first. Oh, look at her.
COLIN HILDING: Wow, but this is an American to tell.
BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, that's amazing. I love seeing that. She could be up for Athlete of the Day of that. That's brilliant. Amazing scene, breaking news from the area. It was amazing scenes. Just incredible.
COLIN HILDING: What's her name, Ben?
BEN WATERWORTH: Zhu Mengtao is her name. And now, so as our last, she's American, I believe. We've got our American, there was two Americans in the final here. So this is coming up now. Ashley Caldwell, she's doing a back full, full, full. A difficulty of 4.293 off kicker four.
COLIN HILDING: What are your predictions here, Colin? Well, I think you and I have landed the back full, fulls, just not the full, full, fulls.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, no, I just couldn't quite do that one, you and I. So it's always been our Achilles heel, actually. And the American coach puts his hand up, touched down. He's a big LA Rams fan, happy about today. As in she comes now, can she still go away from China? She goes up, she does the double, the full, the full, the full, the full, bang down, she's out. China wins gold.
COLIN HILDING: There we go.
BEN WATERWORTH: This scenes in Beijing, oh, she's up against the wall. The Chinese athlete, you're not gonna get shot, love. You won the gold. You can stop putting your hands above your head. The firing squad are not going to kill you. You're safe. She's assumed the loser position in China, but she's realised she's actually won. Oh, that's sweet. Oh, amazing.
COLIN HILDING: So how many in this finals actually landed, like fully landed?
BEN WATERWORTH: Half of them. So I think the medallists. So I think the American there, she crashed less than Laura did. So she should probably get third or fourth. Laura, I'm guessing will get fifth, because the other Chinese athlete, I mean, she's left blood on the snow. So I think her left arm is still embedded in the landing hill. Oh, she's, wow, she's absolutely going off. I've never seen a Chinese athlete this emotional in my life.
COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I'm loving this.
BEN WATERWORTH: This is brilliant. This is so good to see. She's bawling her eyes out. I reckon her entire family will not be going to the firing squad tomorrow. She's, oh, wow, that's great. They haven't even shown the score yet. She met with the judges and were like, well, no, actually, this American, we like her crash better. She's giving, I actually don't even think I've legitimately ever seen a Chinese athlete get the Chinese flag before and celebrate with the Chinese flag. She's gotten the flag.
COLIN HILDING: I just want Mark McMorris to come in here and say, no, I had the best run of the day. I should have this gold. Mark McMorris is the new Kanye of the Olympics.
BEN WATERWORTH: I'm really happy for you, China, and I'll let you finish, but I had the worst run. I was just literally saying to Colin off air that I just finished watching Meddling, which is, if people don't know what it is, it's a four-part little series they did on the Salt Lake judging scandal for the figure skating. Very, very good. I listened to a Jamie Soleil interview from a couple of years ago, but it actually, they interview the Russian pair in it, and they actually give a real interesting story around the Russians. And it just gives you a real insight into kind of, I guess, their mindset, because she's got fourth, so she missed out on the medal, so Laura's finished fifth. So, yeah, it's interesting having just watched kind of this Russian mentality of winning and this is what you need to do, and now kind of seeing this. It is interesting seeing it from that real Western side of things where, I mean, this is just incredible. This really is incredible. So Zhu Mengtao has won the gold. She is China's first ever women's aerial gold medallist, and she is just absolutely pumped. That is amazing. Daily Dale right there.
COLIN HILDING: Yes, I'm completely in agreement.
BEN WATERWORTH: I don't even know if we need to debate that. That's just been decided. Well, we said this was gonna be a big day for Australia. Fifth and fifth for Bree and Laura. So, I'm blaming the Off The Podium curse.
COLIN HILDING: Let's stop calling it that. Let's call it the Ben Waterworth curse. That's what it is.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yeah, look, I will call it the Ben Waterworth curse when Charles Hamilton wins the gold tomorrow night. Because the Off The Podium curse is done. So, because it's, yeah, this is just, it's beyond ridiculous. Although having said that, the only medals we've won during these Olympics are through my interviews. So, just saying, but Canada, Canada.
COLIN HILDING: Well, it's because I've done like three, Rayerick Radford still has a shot, one of my three interviews.
BEN WATERWORTH: True, Canada did win a medal today. Well, I mean, you technically won too. Christine De Bruijn, the bronze in the monobob, great effort by her. How is Canada? I mean, this must be a really weird thing that Canada are feeling today. I mean, I've seen a lot of great things posted about Christine, you know, winning the bronze, but I mean, is it a bittersweet thing or is this still, you've just moved on from Humphreys and you're just like, cool, we got a bronze, shit happens.
COLIN HILDING: I mean, we moved on from Humphreys. I think everybody knew that Kayleigh was gonna win. And as I said, Kayleigh's been doing a lot of media here in Canada, despite not competing for Canada anymore. And I have to say, she's been very classy, she's been very respectful, and she really helps you to see her side of it. But the fact that we got a bronze, and it wasn't for the one that we thought would be in the bronze position, I think that's really surprising. And I have to tell you, yeah, Appia was the one that I think most of our hopes are on. But Christine de Bruyne, like the way that you talked about, I can't wait to see more and more interviews with her. Because the way that you guys talked about Kayleigh McEwen during the Summer Olympics, just you see this athlete, and then all of a sudden you see the interviews, and you're like, wow, she's going to be a star. Like that is Christine de Bruyne. I'm going to read to you basically what her CBC, right after she finished, what her post-event interview was. So basically she was being asked about, how does it feel to know that you're the first ever bronze medal? She goes, yeah, you know, I'm still in shock. I don't even know if I can answer questions right now. I can't believe it just happened. I'm just thinking the next step is I'm going to have to go pee and then comes the medal. She's immediately thinking, I got to go to the bathroom.
BEN WATERWORTH: Let's wash the hands. Let's hope.
COLIN HILDING: But I mean, she's just so much personality. And there's been a lot of stories told here about, you know, her first time doing the monobob and how she felt like she wanted to throw up. And she said, I'm never going to do this again in my life. And basically was talked into continuing. I mean, it's actually incredible that she's even in this sport, let alone the fact that she is now the first ever bronze medallist. But yeah, it's all Kayleigh. In fact, I wanted to say, I didn't watch the Super Bowl. I watched I flipped over with, you know, I think was pretty about less than 10 minutes left to go. And I saw Cincinnati had the lead and I basically told Jamie, Oh, look at that. Cincinnati just won the Super Bowl. Went back to watch the monobob. And then after the monobob was over, I'm like, I'm really curious to see what NBC's coverage of this is. So I flip over NBC, even though the Super Bowl was still technically running, they cut away from the post game celebration, on field celebration to show Kayleigh Humphreys winning the gold medal. So I mean, America is really embracing her, but even on the NBC coverage, they were acknowledging the fact that it's like, you know, four years ago, she was a competitor of the United States and now she's our gold medallist.
BEN WATERWORTH: I was going to ask, did NBC have the Super Bowl this year or is that just where it was being aired in Canada? I watched the first half. Well, actually, when I said the first half, when Channel 7's coverage started at midday, given this would be my last day not being in the studio with Joe, because isolation ends today, woo! I even, when I talked to Joe this afternoon, I said, sorry, I didn't watch you for the first half hour. I was watching Snoop Dogg and Eminem and Mary J. Blige and the gang perform and then sort of closing minutes of the Super Bowl. Yeah, it was, the thing I also like to about sort of the top three is that even with Alana Meyers Taylor, who got the silver, I liked a lot of her social media posts where she's obviously got like a child over there with her in Beijing and this cute little video of like a kid with an Olympic medal around, I think it's a boy, his neck. So like it was really, really cute. So it's kind of, it's interesting how they're sort of embracing it and everything. And that's one thing that I didn't know if it was like something that Canada would have got pissed off at is when Kayleigh got out of the sled and she was celebrated, she started doing the whole, USA, USA. And I'm like, oh, like that. I don't know. That'd be like if some, you know, if Emma McEwan come, Paris is competing for New Zealand and she gets out of the pool and starts doing the Haka. We'd just be like, fuck you. Like, I don't know. Does Canada feel a little bit insulted by the whole USA, USA thing at least?
COLIN HILDING: I mean, I haven't read too many. I know that there will be people because as I said, this is probably the strongest reaction anybody's had to any Canadian athlete doing anything ever here in Canada. But I think for the most part, at least the media has really allowed her to move on. And I'm happy. Jamie was quite upset because I told Jamie the story and she just kept saying, it's like, yeah, but this really isn't fair. I'm like, it's completely fair. And there was one of our ice dancing pairs. I think they said that he was originally born in Denmark, but he's competing for Canada. And this was airing right after the monoball. But I told him like, okay, so is this any different if this guy wins the gold medal? Are we going to say it's not fair for Canada? She's like, well, I guess you got a point there. Everybody has it. It's kind of an unusual situation where it's not like her parents were even born in America. She just literally decided to change. But so much more credit to her that this wasn't even... I'm just watching a commercial now with Ewan McGregor playing during the Olympics. And it's a car commercial. Breaking news. Ewan McGregor is selling cars now.
BEN WATERWORTH: I'll tell you about a Sam Milad that we've got going on in Australia right now, which I want to send to you. But anyway.
COLIN HILDING: Oh, he's walking through a studio. There's astronauts in this commercial. I don't even know what the commercial is. It has everything.
BEN WATERWORTH: This isn't one of those stupid cryptocurrency ones. We've got a Matt Damon one here. That makes no sense. Can we stop with these cryptocurrencies?
COLIN HILDING: This is Expedia.
BEN WATERWORTH: So I've got a bone to pick about ads right now, which make no sense. Literally, there's like this Matt Damon one where it's all like, people do shit in history, and now it's time to create your own history. And you're like, what are they advertising? And it's like some cryptocurrency. I'm like, what? What is this? Anyway.
COLIN HILDING: I also want to interrupt for a second on Kayleigh and just say that, as I was talking about, CBC has no promotion really for anything, like any post-Olympics TV shows. They are advertising one that's an Amazon Prime original show called Last One Laughing. It's a Canadian stand-up comic reality show. And I don't know, looking at this, this is supposed to be like, it's not last comic standing. It looks almost like Big Brother, but it's a bunch of comedians living in a house together. It's got Colin Mochrie and Tom Green, among other people. So it's not on CBC, but I'm excited about it. Anyways, yes, Kaylee Humphreys. I think every country kind of has some athlete that they can't really claim as their own or somebody else claims as their own. You got Dale Biggsmith. We got Mr. Denmark. So to me, it's completely fair. And I mean, I'll take on anybody who's willing to jump on Kaylee. I'll take you on.
BEN WATERWORTH: I think like, yeah, I was going to mention the great, the legendary Dale Biggsmith. I'm a hypocrite if I'm calling people traitors and everything, but I think I'm not even a Canadian, but the way I look at it is it's the circumstances how it went down and the fact it's so soon, like as in like, it's not like this happened a month after Pyeongchang and it's been the last four years. I mean, she's barely, the ink's barely dry on her American citizenship. It was only like a month or two ago, wasn't it, that it was done. So that's where I think I could feel the whole like, oh, that's got to hurt. Like with Dale, that was years in the making. And that was also down to Canada, the Canadian Olympic Committee basically being like, no, you can't make money outside of your athletic. I'll go somewhere without, let me do this. And well, Canada's loss was our gain. Thank you, Canada. But I mean, the same has happened before. I think someone like Kyrie Irving in basketball is Australian born. But I mean, he's one of the US's best players. Could have easily been playing for the Boomers in Tokyo, but he's American now. So I mean, there's plenty of Australians. Zoe, look at Zoe. She's bloody winning goal for New Zealand.
COLIN HILDING: But to me, I think what's different about this, it is the fact that it happened so soon. Like you said, this almost didn't happen. I mean, in Kyrie's mind, she was probably preparing for, hey, I'm going to hope that I still got it in another four years because she was really pushing. This almost didn't happen. She almost wasn't able to even compete at these Olympics. So to me, I give her all the more credit because look at the fact that she has the most decisive victory that anybody could imagine in this event. It wasn't even close. And she was the only flawless one. Like I was mentioning yesterday, all over, no matter what commentary you're watching, everybody saying the same thing. It's like, yeah, this is going to be a very different sport in four years. It's going to be a very different sport in eight years because everybody, even the Olympic medallists at this point, are still trying to figure out how to do this. But Kayleigh knows how to do it. And instinctively, she knows how to do it without even having the opportunity to compete the way that others have. I mean, it's really incredible to me that she took this chance and that it barely worked out. And if anything, for both her and Elena, I mean, I feel like both of them were kind of at a disadvantage coming into this, not as well prepared. And they pulled off a gold and a silver. I mean, I'm not one to, as a Canadian, I'm not one to often cheer on Americans, but I was very happy to see them. I was OK with Christine taking the bronze over the two Americans.
BEN WATERWORTH: I mean, there's so many sports like this, so they've got to start somewhere. I mean, women's hockey. You know, to what, 20, 24 years ago, it made its debut. I mean, we joke and say, well, it's still just Canada and America. But I mean, Turin, when you had Sweden knock off the US, you had Finland knock off Canada in the World Championships a couple of years ago, it can happen. You know, it's rare, but it can happen. I mean, a weird example of that is netball. You know, always Australia vs New Zealand in every Commonwealth Games, it just, it happens. But in the last, like, couple of years, New Zealand have all of a sudden dropped off a little bit. So when England all of a sudden win the gold on the Gold Coast, that's like this massive shock. It's like, wow, this is really unsettling the uphill card. And this will happen in sports like this, where they've got to start, you know, they've got to get somewhere, get some ground. I actually legitimately, as much as he's a traitorous devil, I had Kayleigh Humphreys as athlete of the day before we just had what we just had. Because I mean, second and a half, that is a mountain in the sport.
COLIN HILDING: I was struggling with that because I really want to spread it around to as many countries as possible. But, you know, you can't deny that she is the most dominant person. Even take away Monobob. Let's say she's dominant Monobob. A lot of people aren't even used to this. I got some great commentary about how people aren't used to this coming up. But look at her accomplishments even outside of Monobob. I mean, she is now a three time gold medallist in four Olympics. Three out of her four Olympics, she's won a gold medal. And she is at the top end of the age. She's one of the older chicks out there.
BEN WATERWORTH: I mean, even Dave Colbert was talking about the fact today that, you know, she's won four consecutive medals in across four Olympics. It's a rare feat. And I love the record is that she is the first ever female Winter Olympian to ever win two medals for two different countries. I mean, yeah, it's a record, but I mean, it's not exactly a hard record. I mean, Irene Wuss tomorrow, I could just turn around and be like, I've got one more in me. I'm probably too bad for the Netherlands, but I'll go compete for Australia. Open arms.
COLIN HILDING: Eileen Gu is coming right back to America for Milan. She's not going to stay in China.
BEN WATERWORTH: One thing just before I talk about Bree, it's actually really like, I've got all this on mute, obviously, but it's actually kind of really tricky to watch a lot of what's going on right now because they've interviewed Danielle Scott. She's in tears. Laura Peele, she's a cool karma collector, but the one who's actually really hard, and you could tell she was struggling throughout this. Lydia Lassler, in those first runs when she's trying to host it with Richa, she's just like, you can tell she's not her usual bubbly self. They cut to her during Laura's second jump when she crashed. She was on the rail crying. And right now you can see she's just crying, trying to do this live TV thing. She's obviously trying to hold it together. By the way, I started watching some of her videos.
COLIN HILDING: I do follow Lydia on Instagram, but I don't have time to watch all the stuff that she puts up. Some of these videos she's putting up with the interviews she's doing, I can really see what you're talking about about her personality. It's one of those rances, it's similar to what I'm saying about Tessa and Scott. You wouldn't think that all athletes, maybe they have to be trained for it, but she just instantly has this ability to be an interviewer, to be a broadcaster.
BEN WATERWORTH: I haven't watched her movie, which I really want to watch her movie. One thing I'll say, this is not me taking a shot at my employer, but when Channel 7 actually aired the trailer for her movie, I'm like, okay, fair enough. The trailer contains footage of her winning gold in Vancouver. Channel 9 had the Vancouver Olympics, so therefore they were airing the footage of Eddie Maguire from Channel 9 commentating her gold medal win. Now I know in past Olympics, when Channel 7 have gotten footage from Olympics they haven't broadcast, I think there is footage of Lydia winning the gold with Basil Zempelis commentating over the top. They've clearly just dubbed that over so they don't have Eddie Maguire's commentary. But I'm thinking, did Channel 7 realise that, that they got Channel 9 commentary, Eddie Maguire commentating her gold medal win on the Olympics? It was kind of odd. But I know we've talked a lot about her on Survivor before, but she was on two seasons of Australian Survivor, and she lives up to, she's pretty good at Survivor. She doesn't get voted out because she's shit, let's just put it that way. So if you ever watch Australian Survivor for anything, watch it for Lydia, because she's great on both her seasons. I'd say she's had a tough day, because she's actually Bree's mentor. She's helped Bree Walker out a lot. So she rushed out to the monobob today to help Bree. And I mean, look, obviously, you know, we touted Bree for a possible medal and, you know, one of these chances. But the thing that I love about the scenes with Bree today is that, I mean, both her runs, she went off like she was winning gold. She was pumped. And then in all of her interviews afterwards, she's just so happy. You know, she's celebrating the fact that she's gotten fifth. And yeah, I'm extremely thrilled for her. Obviously, we're selfish here on Off The Podium. We wanted to get her a medal. But I mean, it's similar to Jackie. This is a sport, again, where we've got nothing remotely resembling anything which they can do here in Australia. And the story is she's googled, do we have a bobsled team? And here she is now in Olympic Games. Should have been at the Olympics back in Pyeongchang, of course, without some red tape. And here she is now, and she's finished fifth, which, let's be honest, not to take away from Jackie's great achievement of winning a silver and a skeleton, but I mean, if you had said we would come away from an Olympics with a top five in a sliding sport, you're like, wow, we've gotten a silver medal and a top five at a sliding sport. And then you look at Alex, what he did with 16th in the luge, and not to try and take away from Nick's 25th and the skeleton, but like, I mean, you know, Nick's an Olympian, you can't take that away from him, but we've actually had a bloody good sliding tournament at the Olympics, you know, in all three sports we have competed in. So yeah, so happy for Brie. Obviously sad not to see her get a medal, but she'll be back, and she's already talking up the fact that, you know, this will help her even more so go towards Milan in four years' time.
COLIN HILDING: Yeah, I think one of the interesting things about this is that it seems to be decided so early. Like, if your first run is terrible, if your first run is average, you got a chance. If your first run is terrible, you're out of it. The real victory is that she climbed back up to fifth place. And it was very similar with the first run for the Canadian Cynthia Pia. But Cynthia made a little bit of ground up. Brie made a lot of ground up. Now, if you had gone into these Olympics and said, she's going to finish fifth place, you might say, well, it's about what we expect her disappointment. When you say she had a first run where she was what? 10th or something?
BEN WATERWORTH: She was 10th after the first round. She ended up finishing fifth.
COLIN HILDING: Yeah, like that. That is a big margin to make up in a sport like this, where it is hundreds of a second, that sometimes is the deciding factor between first and last place, let alone going from 10th to fifth. So it's still a victory, yeah. And I'm excited. This entire sport really has me fascinated right now because there's so many struggles. There's a lot of talk on all the commentaries that I was listening to about the weight of the sled and where you have to sit, and the fact that a lot of these people like, I don't know specifically with Bree, but a lot of these people like Bree, where their first run or their first two runs were terrible, and they came back in the third and fourth, it was something as simple as I need to slide back in the sled a little bit because my weight is different. I need to change the runners. The runners need to be completely different. It's fascinating to me that in a one person sled, there is so many difficult things. You wouldn't think about that, that a sled would make that much difference by having one less person in it, because the weight of the sled is barely different from a one to two woman.
BEN WATERWORTH: Just before I come on that tangent, I mentioned Sam Neeland that's on Australia, it was just on TV just then. So basically our main pay TV provider in Australia, Foxtel, they're advertising like this new online thing where you can watch all your Netflix and everything all in one go. And he's like, this was the old box that we used to have. You call this a dinosaur, but it's just, it's evolved. And he gets there and he's like, I'll show you. And he gets in his remote and he goes, play Jurassic Park. And then you see that Jurassic Park and he goes to the camera. It's like, not bad for a dinosaur. And he like winks in the camera. So that's Sam Neeland TV right now in Australia.
COLIN HILDING: I want Sam Neeland on my TV. I'll trade you a human for Sam Neeland.
BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, that's a tough one. Who would you rather?
COLIN HILDING: Who would you say both?
BEN WATERWORTH: They knock on your door right now. But yeah, no, great. And Brie, of course, will be back with Kiara on the weekend in The Two Woman Bobs. So we'll see how that goes. And yeah, just while I got the screen open, as you said, Cynthia up here was eighth for Canada as well. So both Canadians, well, all three Canadians in the top 10 and one Australian in the top five. And yeah, it's actually like as happy as obviously for Brie, like it's kind of one of these weird days, I think, for us on Off The Podium, where I was thinking a lot of Ash Werner today, obviously, you know, sad not to see her competing in this as well. So it would have been great to see her in this event as well, but hopefully she'll keep going and we'll see her in Milan.
COLIN HILDING: She really should have named her sled Ben. That's apparently the lucky charm, right?
BEN WATERWORTH: Ben got fifth at the Olympics. I'll take it. Come on, Ben. Yes. Obviously, the other big news for Canada today, the women in the ice hockey, little win. I mean, this is a bit of an upset. 10-3 over Switzerland. Into the gold medal match. Not a surprise. Yeah, they probably just should have just automatically given them a mulligan all the way through, but they're through. They will no doubt play the US. That hasn't started yet. But, I mean, is this something that Canada still... I mean, I saw on social media Canada still obviously celebrating, like, we'll play for gold. But I mean, does this something the media even talks about? Like, yeah, we're through to the gold medal. No surprise there. Moving on to more, you know, groundbreaking news. Like, not to take away from their achievement, of course, but...
COLIN HILDING: Yeah, no, it pretty much is. All right, another gold medal position or gold or silver medal position for Canada. But I think again, like we've been talking about for the last couple of days now or week or whatever, it is the amount of goals we're scoring that has Canada more excited, because I think this has to be the most goals Canada scored in Olympics and even women's hockey in a very long time, if not ever. But I mean, I got to be honest, I would have loved to watch this. I started watching it before I fell asleep last night. I wasn't concerned when I woke up in the morning. I basically just skipped ahead and like, oh yeah, there we go. Oh, five, okay. Seven, all right. Eight, ten. There we go. We're into double digits. But I still went out of my way to watch it. I'm thinking it's going to be US, but we could have a turn situation. You never know. And it's exciting when that does happen. I would love to see it. I want to see Canada and US just because that is the rivalry. And I think US has, I don't know the exact numbers, but I think that they've won more than Canada has overall since they've won four.
BEN WATERWORTH: Are you talking about overall matches between the pair or are you talking about the Olympics?
COLIN HILDING: Just for the Olympics gold medals. I think US has won more than Canada.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, in the women's, no, Canada have won four, and US have won two. Oh, OK. US won Nagano and Pyeongchang, and Canada won every other single gold.
COLIN HILDING: All right, well, we're holding a grudge for Pyeongchang. There's Ewan McGregor again. They're really going hard on Ewan McGregor's Expedia.
BEN WATERWORTH: I'm seeing Basil looking good in his suit. So you have Ewan, I'll take my Basil.
COLIN HILDING: But I mean, I'm curious because I would love it to be Canada and US just so that we could have a rematch. And I love that it's a rematch. We play each other all the time, but having an upset would be exciting still.
BEN WATERWORTH: Of the six gold medal matches at the Olympics, five of them have been USA and Canada. Every single one of them have had Canada in it, so you're guaranteed a medal. So at least you'll get another medal, at least you're guaranteed for these Olympics. In the men's last night, obviously, we were on air. When Canada played China, you ended up beating China 5-0. It was very close in the USA, Germany. USA ended up winning at 3-2. So Canada in the playing rounds will play China again. Funnily enough, so you win that, you will play Sweden in the quarterfinals. And should you win that, you will either play the US, Slovakia or Germany in the semi-finals. So basically how that's going to work is that USA plays the winner of Slovakia or Germany in the quarterfinals. Sweden, as we said, will play Canada or China. And in the other half of the bracket, Finland will play either the Czech Republic or Switzerland. And Denmark or Latvia will play ROK. So I'm calling this now semi-finals. I'm predicting it will be Finland versus ROK. That's not hard to predict. I'm going for USA Canada semi-finals again. So that's good. Having said that though, Sweden, they're so consistent. That's going to be a tough one for Canada. I mean, if you lose to China in the playoff rounds, that is like just the most embarrassing thing Canada has ever had. And you've got Justin Bieber and Nickelback.
COLIN HILDING: That would guarantee that I would be rooting for China. I thought you were going to add Avril Lavigne in there, but she has a disease.
BEN WATERWORTH: No, I would never add. She's amazing. You leave her alone. In the curling though, the women had a win today. You beat Italy. So you're actually still in contention. 7-3 over Italy. The men also beat Russia. Sorry. Rock 11-5. So looking at the standings for the women, you do move up into six. So you're actually only a win now behind both Britain and Sweden in those those play sort of fourth, fifth area. So still in with a chance. The women, the women. Whereas in the men, Canada is still sitting in fourth. Big win against Rock because they're directly below you in fifth. So any news, any updates on how Canada are reacting to the curling?
COLIN HILDING: I think we've written off the women, but we probably shouldn't because they're starting, they're starting to come back. Well, hey, they're the bigger stars out of this group. So I think there's just higher expectations on them. But I'm watching them right now against Great Britain. My other favourite, Eve Merehead and Great Britain. Scotland, sorry, Scotland, yes. They really are Scotland, that's true. But, you know, so this one, it's kind of a dilemma for me because I wouldn't be mad if Eve Merehead and Scotland win. But I think we're still in it. I'm feeling way more comfortable on the men's side than I am the women's side though.
BEN WATERWORTH: I have got higher hopes that you will meddle in that than the Australian women's team. You think? Possibly, possibly going on there. Not many medal results today in terms of there's only four medals being decided today. We've gone over the aerials, we've gone over the monobob. The only other one's been decided today, the ice dancing. France, gold in that. Gabriella Papadakis, very French-shouting name that one. And Guilhame Cizeron, the gold ahead of Victoria Sincenina and Nikita Katzalapov of Iraq, and America the Bronze Madison Hubel and Zachary Donahoe. So interesting seeing the results of that, having just watched this meddling when the whole, you know, controversy around Salt Lake also involved a French ice dancing team. So I'm like, oh, collusion. There's a Russian mafia involved again. What's going on here? And the other medal results, we've got the ski jumping. The team competition is happening as we speak. I'll give you an update in that in just a moment. So results for Canada and Australia elsewhere. I can tell you in the downhill women's training, getting bored tomorrow because it's Esther Day 3. Esther was seventh today, but like the other day, it's kind of got this little question mark of potential disqualification, but it's Esther. We know that's not true. I can say that in downhill training though, that Canada in fifth, Marie-Michelle Gagnon fifth place. So looking good there maybe for a downhill for Canada. Greta on Off The Podium 36. So doing well there is Greta. The two man bobsleigh Heat 1 is on as we speak right now. Canada sitting in sixth and eighth. You've also got another sled to go as well. And surprise surprise, Germany 1, Germany 2. Currently in the bobsleigh. That is a bit of a surprise. Didn't expect that at all. In the ice dancing, Paul Poirier and Piper Gilles were seventh. And Nicolas Sorensen and Laurence Fournier-Baudry was ninth. Zachary Lagarde and Marjorie Lajoie was thirteenth. So is this sad? No, Scott. And the first time you ever medalled this, I think since what, Turin? Because Tessera and Scott medalled in the last three Olympics, right? So yeah, you've lost a medal in this one.
COLIN HILDING: It's I almost feel bad for Piper and Paul. There was a lot of expectations put on them. I mean, they have had the results to warrant there being an expectation on them medalling. But having Tessera and Scott on commentary really does. I can even feel it myself. I'm watching Piper and Paul, listening to Tessera and Scott, watching Piper and Paul, and I'm like, they're just not in the same league. And that's no knock against Piper and Paul. It's just when you have the greatest of all time, and you put them on the TV, and they're critiquing their successors. Ooh, yeah.
BEN WATERWORTH: Sorry. Your next Canadian Bob's on the screen, and they just really fucking flipped it. They just smacked themselves in the wall. Sorry. That was a big hit.
COLIN HILDING: But obviously the performance just hasn't been there for Piper and Paul. They've taken a lot of criticism for their wardrobe choices. I don't know if you've seen their wardrobe choices they've had. They definitely went very 70s Elton John in the last game.
BEN WATERWORTH: I saw that you said that I know who you're talking about.
COLIN HILDING: I don't know. I would say it's very sunny in Cher for the other one. They've gone very retro, and I don't think it's really gone over well with the public. But it is really tough when you have people like Tessa and Scott, and then their successors just aren't at the same level yet. I'm choking on their lack of success.
BEN WATERWORTH: Pick your game up.
COLIN HILDING: But I feel like the expectations are almost too high because of the bar that Tessa and Scott set. But really, when you look at it though, if these are our successors, and they finished only two spots higher than Canada's B pair, then something obviously did go wrong. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the wardrobe, but let's blame the clothes.
BEN WATERWORTH: Let's be honest, when Cable and Noah take over this show for Milan, it's just going to be the same. We can't take over the goats. I mean, the goat's not even here. He's having a couple of days off. Jarrod's not here again. So he's upset that we didn't win any medals today. But yeah, I'll be completely honest with you. I didn't really watch much of the ice dancing. I just didn't. Don't know why. Just no Torbjorn Dean, no ice dancing for Ben.
COLIN HILDING: It's fucking 1984. The rhythm is the more fun part. I wish that they would main event with that.
BEN WATERWORTH: No Harley Quinn and the Joker. I'm out. No. Not up for me. This is obviously we're a bit behind. I was about to say Canada just gone into second in the bobsleigh, but that was obviously one of the ones that went beforehand. But no, seriously, two, it's not even two wheels. It's one sled basically doing a wheelie out of like turn seven or something like that. Like that was some good piloting. So we should really mention with obviously we just had the aerials and that's talk about the slope style and the freestyle. Good to see the freestyle skiers woke up and felt like doing some work today and went so lazy. So they actually went out and did something today. So in the women's slope style, the free ski slope style for Canada, Olivia Asselin is through to the final. She finished in 11th, Megan Oldham not through 13th. Too lazy for her apparently. And sadly for Australia, Abbie Harrigan, 26th and last, but she did ski on a broken leg. So, you know, I mean, I can't even ski on two normal legs. She's skiing in the Olympics doing the freaking slope style on a broken leg. So I think 26th is pretty good in the Olympics, if you ask me. Kelly Sildaru of Estonia leading that one. And Eileen Gu, third. And did you see her, like, one of her runs, she gets to the bottom of the hill, and she starts eating like a pie or something like that? She's literally standing there waiting for a score. Someone hands her a bag and she's eating. I'm like, what is this? Is this something to go viral? Someone look at me, I'm eating a pie while I wait for my score. I'm Eileen Gu. Like, what the fuck?
COLIN HILDING: That actually bothers me because I feel like that's ripped off of... Was it during the half pipe where there was the one woman who got to the bottom and as they were revealing the scores, you see her pull something out of her pocket and start eating. It was like a Danish or something. And she actually said afterwards, she legitimately had put that in her pocket and forgot about it and decided to eat it. So now it feels like Eileen Gu is just trying to piggyback off of somebody else's viral moment.
BEN WATERWORTH: There's just something about Eileen Gu that just, it gives me the poos. Like, it's just, I don't know if it's just, it's the fact that she's so overhyped. I'm not taking away from her gold medal win. She's obviously very talented, and she probably will walk away with three gold medals. Good for her. But it's just, it annoys you when you get an athlete like this. It just gets so much attention, and it's like, she's great, good for her. But then, our French guy yesterday, who we gave the Daily Dale to, this guy's on the verge of history. He wins a medal tomorrow in the relay. He equals the most ever individual medals won in a Winter Olympics ever. Like, there's like 10 other athletes who have won five in one game. He'll become the first of a biathlete to win five individual medals. Like, why are we not talking about this guy? Like, why are we talking about fricking Eileen Goux? Like, oh, I can give me three gold medals. This French guy's winning like five. Like, screw you, Eileen Goux. He's got a gun, he can shoot you.
COLIN HILDING: That's not a threat. We don't need China banging on our door saying Ben's hired somebody to shoot Eileen Goux. You know, this is one of my other complaints, and of all things has come in the monobob. It just feels like they've gotten to the point where every sport has to have the chance at multiple medals. And I kind of just missed the days where it's like you have one shot and you're out. And it's definitely a lot worse now in freestyle snowboarding, freestyle skiing and snowboarding, that they have so many shots to win medals that it doesn't feel like a medal matters anymore. And maybe it's just me. I mean, this is one of the other problems I'll say even with the team events. You know, Ariel's was one of those last standouts. There is one shot, and that's what we were even saying about in the finals. You got one jump and you're done. And now, well, don't worry, we've also got a team event. It's not a big deal. I kind of just missed the days where one medal was all you needed. And one medal mattered. So whether you win or lose, I mean, that's your only shot. Now, you got Eileen Gu, who has a million shots. And if she fails on one or eight, I mean, Esther is different because Esther says, I'm going to give us more shots by going into different sports. I mean, that's something you really applaud. But how much can we applaud winning multiple medals anymore in the Olympics?
BEN WATERWORTH: And I agree with you. And I think the thing that I am trying these Olympics around, and it's interesting because we complained a lot about skateboarding in the Summer Olympics. It was more like a bunch of kids who don't really seem to respect, like, this is an Olympics. It's just kind of like it's another thing for them. They'd rather be in the X Games, that sort of stuff. And we kind of said, like, snowboarding is a little bit different. And I think snowboarding is different. But I think it's turning a little bit more the other way now, because when you had just the slalom and the halfpipe, that was it. Like, you know, kind of there was a bit of that flair and, you know, kind of youthful kind of X Games-iness there, but you still had that procedure, the Olympics. Now that you've got, like, the big air and the slope style, like, it's just... I'm watching, like, literally today, you had the big air and the slope style in freestyle skiing and snowboarding on at the same time. And, like, you just get lost in which one you're watching, because you're like, OK, one's got a snowboard on their feet, one's got skis. OK, I get it. But then, like, it's just the attitude of the athletes, like, strictly the big air. You literally go down a thing, you do one jump, that's it, and you're like, oh, lol, I crashed in the Olympics, give me my Danish. OK, you could technically say, well, the aerials is literally the same because you go down, you do a flip, you land. But like, Jackie Cooper was explaining it really well on the coverage tonight. She's like, a lot of people ask me, well, what's the difference between now that you got the big air and you got the aerials? And Jackie's like, well, aerials is more traditional and more kind of formal, because in aerials, you have to say to the judges, this is a jump I'm going to do, this is the style points, you've got to be sort of rigid, you've got to be, you know, very proper and strict with it. Whereas with the big air, you can literally be like, I'm going to do a double corky Danish flippity flip flip, you know, put a bit of extra pop on it, backwards on it, you know, pull out a fricking butt plug and fireworks come out of your butt, and then boom, you get an extra 10 style points and you go viral on TikTok. And you're like, yeah, my homies love me. And then the judges love that. So they give you an extra 20 style points. Like, it's appealing to a different demographic. I get it. But this is where I'm going to sound snooty. That's not the Olympics. That's the X Games. That's where it's like appeal to the kids. But don't make a mockery of it, because it just comes across sometimes as these athletes go on like, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that. And then the slope style and the big era, basically the same fucking thing. And then so is the half part. Keep the half part, get rid of the other ones. That's what I say. Ben ran over. That's a Ben fact. Oh, the sound effect works on this show too.
COLIN HILDING: I didn't realise that. I completely agree. And I love the X Games. I've watched the X Games most of my life, but there's a place for the X Games and there's a place for the Olympics. And when you have this cavalier attitude of, oh, well, I screwed it up. So much of that is, I've got another event to go and it doesn't matter. And it's different when you have, let's say cross-country skiing and you choose different distances, or if there are team events, these are individual events in sports that are similar but just slightly different. And it's not even like swimming where I have this distance, this distance, this butterfly, backstroke, freestyle, everything. It just feels like now they're creating opportunities for people to win more medals. And I think I'm okay with the monobob, because I mean, the monobob is more a push towards, let's eventually get to the four woman. But then if we eventually get to, there is a men's monobob, a men's two man, a men's four, and then the same thing for the women, bobsledding is going to be the exact same thing. And the only difference is we have more people winning medals multiple times.
BEN WATERWORTH: I don't necessarily have a problem with like, multiple medals is not a thing. It's when you've just got not much of a difference, and you're adding them for the sake of adding. I think it's all well and good that you talk about having, let's have equality in the Olympics, let's have equal events for men and women, and let's have equality in the Olympics. I think it's important to have equality in the Olympics. I think it's important to have equality in the Olympics. I think it's important to have equality in the Olympics.
COLIN HILDING: I think it's important to have equality in the Olympics.
BEN WATERWORTH: I'm sure there are plenty of female Nordic combined athletes who have been trying to fight for hundreds of years to get into the Olympics. Since the 1676 Olympics! Winter Olympics too, when climate change was the opposite. But yeah, like it's just a whole other episode. The way I look at it is simple. It's funny how you're talking about how athletes from other countries... Keegan Palmer wins a gold medal for Australia last year in Tokyo in skateboarding American. Now, again, I have my issues with Keegan winning. He's a gold medallist for Australia. You can never take that away from him. Good for him. He's achieved something that I'm never going to achieve in my life. I applaud him. But I guarantee you, in two years' time, when this kid has won the Billabong X Pro in Honolulu and the freaking Mars Bar 2020 in Winnipeg, he's barely going to register that he's an Olympic gold medallist. It was just another event that he won that got him another 100,000 followers. When I mix that with him, and I see a bronze medallist in the cross-country skiing who is bawling their eyes out because this is a lifetime achievement, like everything to them more from achievement, even seeing Bree Walker finish fifth in the Olympics, and that is like the greatest thing. That's where, to me, it's an Olympics versus the next Games. It's good for Keegan. He's an Olympic gold medallist. He's just doing part of his job. But skateboarders and that, they're not, they don't give a shit about the Olympics. It's ex-Games. That's where they get in the cred. That's where, and you're right, ex-Games had their place. I'm not taking away from the ex-Games. They're great. But it's a difference. You know, mic drop, whatever. That's a long rant. The point is, there's a Canadian in the final of the freestyle. Good for her. Good for you, Olivia. I'm sure you're a great athlete. You're not lazy today. I should mention just in the aerials as well, there was a couple of other Canadians, and obviously we had Gabby Ash in those as well. So Gabby Ash unfortunately didn't make it through, obviously, to the final rounds. Neither did Naomi Baudreau-Gertin for Canada, and Flavie Omond for Canada as well. Also going out in the qualifying rounds. And Marian Senault is the one who Laura's crash knocked out. Dona Housil and Danny Scott, obviously she ended up finishing in 10th place. And to recap, so Zhu Mengtao of China won the gold in that, and she is our Daily Dial of the Day. Hanna Haskova, the reigning champion from Pyeongchang, she ended up getting the silver for Belarus. And Megan Nick, the bronze for USA. In the ski jump, breaking news in the ski jumping. So the final is on right now. I can tell you that sadly for Off The Podium's Casey Larson, not a good day for team Off The Podium, USA did not qualify through for the 18th final. They finished in 10th. So sad news there for Casey. But right now in the final, we have Austria leading Slovenia and Norway in third, also competing Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Japan and ROC. Come on, Poland, get Camille Stocker medal in these Olympics. I want to say, you know, he's gotten too many fourths in these Olympics. The other one that was like the slope, the snowboard, the big air, Tess Cody through to the final. So you, good for her. Two Canadians through, Laurie Bluen was fourth, Jasmine Baird was tenth, and Zoe, Zoe is through. She was the number one qualifier. So two gold medals. New Zealand could be beating both Canada and Australia in the Winter Olympics by gold medals by tomorrow, Colin. What's going on?
COLIN HILDING: I mean, nobody's beaten us in bronze at this point, but I mean, the golds are up for grabs.
BEN WATERWORTH: Oh, congratulations, by the way. You equalled your best ever hall of bronze medals by getting that bronze today. So 10 for Canada, one more. And you eclipsed the all time greatest bronze medal hall celebrations in all the streets of Canada tomorrow. One thing I wanted to say, I was going to, we don't have to do the Daily Dale, but there were two athletes in the the snowboard that I did love. So one, Melissa Peppercamp, 11th, she's through to the final from the Netherlands. On one of her runs, she got to the bottom of the hill. She saw the score for the judges came up. She got a snowboard, she just slammed it on the ground. I'm like, that's the emotion I want to see. I'm sick of seeing these snowboards, just going, oh yeah, well, that's fair enough. I want to see like the bullshit that's happening. You know, that should have gone there.
COLIN HILDING: The Danish right at the judges.
BEN WATERWORTH: And the other one was Rongzhi of China, who got a little bit too exuberant in the big air. She like landed and she just kept going and she did basically a face flip over the railings. She just kept, quite funny. But did you, I don't know if you watched much of it today, but gee, the judging was slow today. I think they must have been freestyle skiers. They were standing on count five, just waiting for the scores to come up.
COLIN HILDING: That's weird. I think that maybe changed places because I was going to say in the ice dancing, the judging was much quicker than normal. So they sent the snowboard judges to ice dancing and ice dancing somewhere.
BEN WATERWORTH: The bank accounts are better internet. Quick transfer of the money. Oh, there we go, Tim. In the men's snowboard, Max Parrott, there he is. You get the men. Gold medallist Max Parrott goes through as the best qualifier. What are you talking about, Mark Morris? He's through to the final.
COLIN HILDING: No, but he qualified in eighth though.
BEN WATERWORTH: Goodness me, in a 12-person final, he's only eighth.
COLIN HILDING: Well, considering he usually qualifies in the top three or four, I think that's a disappointment.
BEN WATERWORTH: Three Canadians through, so we also got Darcy Sharp in there as well. So good job there, won a quarter chance for medal there. Australia's Matthew Cox, he went in 28th and did not make it through. He had another Canadian, Sebastian Touton. He was 26th and not through to the final. So that is all of our results there. So the medal tally after 10 days, Norway on top, nine gold, five silver, seven bronze, 21 in total, Germany second, eight gold, five silver, one bronze, 14 in total, USA, seven gold, six silver, three bronze for a country that wasn't winning any gold. They've caught up pretty quickly. 16 in total, the Dutch, six gold, four silver, two bronze, 12, and Sweden, five gold, three silver, three bronze, 11. Should just quickly mention China in sixth. They're now on five gold, three silver, two bronze for a country that I don't think had won more than two gold medals at a Winter Olympics before, doing pretty okay. So I mean, you think they're dominance of China, but that's never really come across in Winter Olympics before. So they're doing very, very well. Canada are now fourth in terms of total medals. You're 14th in terms of the gold, one gold, four silver, 10 bronze, 15 in total, and Australia, one gold, two silver, one bronze, four in total. Sadly, don't think we are going to add anything more to our medal tally. I mean, Tess maybe could do something in the big air, and I mean, Bree and Kiara, very long shot, but I think we're done. So we're happy with the four. So we'll definitely take that. What did you win? What did you win? What did you watch today? What else did you win today, Colin?
COLIN HILDING: What did you watch today? You won a new car!
BEN WATERWORTH: Come on down!
COLIN HILDING: I mean, Jamie and I were both glued to the monobob last night, and I was happy to say our Giada, Andretti or whatever, they definitely had her picture up today. So our influence worked. Get that woman's face on camera more.
BEN WATERWORTH: She didn't come last either.
COLIN HILDING: No, she didn't. And obviously some of the ice dancing that was on nonstop on CBC's coverage. And a bit of the hockey. And that's aerials this morning. I woke up to get very angry at Australia in the aerials. That was how I woke up this morning. That was not pleasant.
BEN WATERWORTH: Breaking news in the curling, Britain won, Canada won, and the other one you're really anticipating, Republic of Korea for Japan too. So there you go. Go Japan. Every time I see you ski jumping, it just reminds me of when we did Eddie the Eagle and Christopher Walken. My life in ski jumping. When that was on TV the other night, I just see that book, I just keep my life in ski jumping. So funny. Germany currently leading my life in ski jumping. They are ahead of Japan. And Paul, I can't stock. Bring on some stock, you little champion. Everyone's favourite Polish ski jumper. Who's your favourite Polish ski jumper, Colin? Is it Camille Stock?
COLIN HILDING: Hands down.
BEN WATERWORTH: Absolutely. Why wouldn't it be? I personally am a bit of a David Kubacki fan, but, you know, Camille's got my stock. Let's just say that. Yeah, I watched the Monobob today. Great to see. And it's an entertaining event. So I enjoyed it. I think I said yesterday, I watched a bit of the World Cup earlier this year. So really good to see. I'm watching the Two Man Bob right now, which, breaking news in the Two Man Bob, Germany 1, Germany 2 and Germany 4. So they are 1, 2 and 4. Rock currently in third. And I also watched the Slope style Big Air. They were both the same, let's be honest. And I saw like two seconds of the ice dancing. So there you go. I didn't see any of the ice hockey today, sadly. So I will try and do better on that. Any CBC fails today? Colin Hooning?
COLIN HILDING: Not fail, I mean more just a very overly dramatic moment. There's the German monobobist, Nolte. And on her third, the third heat run, there was one point where she got, it wasn't even like that big, it was slightly out of control. And the commentator all of a sudden went from basically being like, and she's coming into corner and, oh no! Oh, and she straightened that out quickly. Very overly dramatic.
BEN WATERWORTH: Can you do that for us again, Colin?
COLIN HILDING: Oh no! And she straightened that out quickly.
BEN WATERWORTH: There's probably a soundbomb in there for 007.
COLIN HILDING: Oh no! I actually heard it again. I'm recording it now. And I can barely hear the commentator all of a sudden. I don't know where I just hear this loud, oh no! The other one was actually the Olympic feed, the Olympic channel feed. The guy doing the commentary. He was basically saying yesterday, and this woman here, she has some very fashionable sock choices. Sadly, they're not showing it now. Maybe we'll get it in the next seat. But yesterday, he had kind of a backhanded compliment for some of the pilots, where he basically said, and later on when some of the better athletes come up, you'll see some cleaner runs. And this is like not even halfway through. Way to hand it to the athletes who do not qualify as better athletes who have just gone in the first ever monobob, you jerk.
BEN WATERWORTH: You are shit, basically, is what they are saying. One sad thing, I think I said this last year in Tokyo, that me not still being in Canada is I don't get to witness, I've still never experienced another country's Olympic broadcast in my entire life. This is the first time I've ever been out of Tasmania watching an Olympics ever, but I'm still in Australia, and I'm literally working for the network putting on the Olympics. So it's kind of one day.
COLIN HILDING: And they are so much better for it.
BEN WATERWORTH: Aren't they brilliant Channel 7? My goodness, they're on point today. Fantastic. Actually, I will say, I can't remember the exact line that Jo used, but when she was cutting to the bobsled and throwing to Dave Colbert, she was referring to something to do with the curling and then basically called him like, instead of calling him saying he had stones, she was like, and you've got some pebbles, Dave, or something like that. And then, so Jo posted on Instagram today a picture of her on the set, and then Dave Colbert's commented saying, pebbles here, you are going okay. So a bit of like backhanded compliment there. I actually legitimately want to bring this up tomorrow when I'm back in the studio. This is the Ben Waterworth, loving Channel 7 a bit, but maybe some positive feedback to put to Channel 7. I love this whole like let's show the family, like here's Bree's family in Cairns, here's Laura's family in Canberra. It's great. It's just the awkward nature when they do the dual screen side by side. They always can't, like if they're about to go on a run, and you want to see like their splits, but like because they make the screen so small, you can't see the numbers. Or when they finish, so they've got them in the end area, like there's Laura like she's waving at the camera, or there's Bree, she's pumping the fist. I want to see the finishing time, but because they cut straight to the family, and it's side by side screen, the writing's like, and even with glasses on, and I'm old, like I want to see the score, like can you cut there after you see it? So just some public feedback. I will pass on tomorrow, which no one will listen to because I'm nobody there at the network. Speak to me in four years when I'm running the network. Yeah, right. They're not keeping me on. They'll listen to the show finally, and I might have to give some things back. So we've done our daily day, or our athlete of the day. Now, we didn't plan this because you and I don't exactly talk about who we've got going, but it was double day for previous Off The Podium guests today for our daily celebration. Talk up yours. I mean, can I just say yours, we've never, I think, received more likes on our Instagram than we ever have until today. The amount of likes that we got on these Tessa and Scott posts, like, geez, they are popular.
COLIN HILDING: Yeah. Well, do you remember when our Tessa Virtue interview went up?
BEN WATERWORTH: We did like most downloaded interview ever.
COLIN HILDING: Instantly, fan pages all over the place. They are very popular here. But yes, Tessa Virtue and Scott Morde, as they now are eclipsing the actual skaters just by doing such great commentary, they still have to be number one. Curse them. They got to be the best at everything they do. But obviously, the most famous ice dancing pair of all time.
BEN WATERWORTH: Poor Torval and Dean. Jane Torval and... Torval and Dean? What are their names?
COLIN HILDING: Two gold medals, one silver in the careers ice dancers, added to one gold and one silver in the team events for five lifetime medals, making Tessa and Scott the most decorated figure skaters in history. Not even just ice dancers, most decorated figure skaters in history. Tessa has her own doll. She is the first one. We're going to learn more about Canadian dolls of Olympians tomorrow, but she is the first one to have an Olympic doll in decades. And they also had their own reality show, which, as we learned on our interview, Tessa never watched and was very upset with how the show turned out. So television stars, commentators, dolls, and all around great Olympians. Tessa Virtue and Scott Moore.
BEN WATERWORTH: I look forward to my Jerome and Ginla doll. Actually, when I went to Disneyland for the very first time, I went to Build-A-Bear, and I got two bears made, because you get NHL Build-A-Bear. So I got an Anaheim Ducks and a Calgary Flames Build-A-Bear. And I called my Calgary Flames one Jerome, and my Anaheim Ducks one was Tmoo. So they're my Build-A-Bears. Just hello to my Build-A-Bears if you're listening. I do. They're in storage boxes back in my house right now. So that's how much I love them. Are we getting a Jamie Saleh and David Peltier day, or are we not stretching with the figure skaters?
COLIN HILDING: No, I mean, I've got another... I'll just spoil it. I got another figure skater coming up tomorrow because you couldn't not do this one. And then I figure, we'll leave the figure skaters to rest after that.
BEN WATERWORTH: All right. They're all dead, apparently. They want heart attacks.
COLIN HILDING: We're sorry, Jamie.
BEN WATERWORTH: Yes. Today, from the Australian perspective, given it was Women's Zip Finals Day in the aerials, Lydia Lassler Day, our last Olympic gold medallist in the Winter Olympics to Chikara during these Olympics, won a gold and a bronze across her five Olympics, if you don't mind. One of, I think, outside of Colin Coates, four or five Australians who have been in five different Winter Olympics, a great result there. And I mean, you know, Colin knows us, so she's obviously a bit of an icon in Australia. She's obviously been on Survivor. She's written a book. She's got the movie. She's doing great guns on TV right now. Hasn't aged a day, by the way. What a woman. What a woman. We love Lydia. A guest on the show, one of our very first ever guests. I've actually interviewed her twice, because I interviewed her back in the Brink days. So like David Morris, both agreed to come back on after I'd interviewed them years before. So great to chat to Lydia and somebody who just everyone in Australia absolutely loves her. So thanks. Thanks to Lydia for being Lydia. And can I just tease tomorrow? Tomorrow, I'm saying it right now, the best, just the best day of the entire Olympics. It's tomorrow for Australia.
COLIN HILDING: Deal day?
BEN WATERWORTH: I wouldn't either confirm or deny, but you can put the pieces together, because if it's the best day, then it's probably going to be day all day. Because I actually, in all seriousness, I actually think tomorrow is the 16th anniversary of the day he won the gold. And then the following day, a massively iconic day in Australian history. So we've got a couple of big ones coming up. And this is the thing, you can't celebrate all your gold medals, because you've got hundreds of them. Whereas I can literally can make, we only had five, we're not going to have a jacarra day, not breaking news, that will be for Milan. But all five of our gold medallists, I will say, are being honoured at some point. And I think we've now had Tora, we've had Lydia, so we've got three more to go. So they will be here for the rest of this week at some point.
COLIN HILDING: We haven't even said it or talked about it on here, but our first medallist of these games, I think it was Marietta O'Diahn, the Snowboard Cross. She was officially Canada's 200th Olympic Winter Medal. And then Mikel Kingsbury was our 201st. So yeah, we're into the 200th now for Canada.
BEN WATERWORTH: I think I somehow was aware of that, because I think maybe during our opening ceremony or somewhere I did see them say that they only need one more medal to make the 200th. So yeah, well, there you go. Congratulations.
COLIN HILDING: How many Winter Olympians, because I know Dale has a gold and a silver, but how many Winter Olympians you have that have won medals in multiple Olympics? I mean, there's a fact.
BEN WATERWORTH: Scotty James. Yeah, no, I can tell you that, because they mentioned Scotty James became our sixth multiple medallist the other day. So Stephen Bradbury, he was bronze in the relay team, and then obviously gold in Salt Lake. Alyssa Campland, gold in Salt Lake, bronze in Turin. Dale Begsmith, gold in Turin, silver in Vancouver. Tora Bright, gold in Vancouver, silver in Sochi. Lydia Gold, and then bronze, and now Scotty James, bronze and silver. So we actually, on that episode the other night that you went on, we were talking about who would be the first to ever get three. And Scotty's probably, I mean, he's the only current one right now, unless Lydia comes out of retirement. Tora comes out of retirement.
COLIN HILDING: Bradbury comes out of retirement.
BEN WATERWORTH: He's still looking good old Stephen, so you never know. So Scotty, the only one who, I mean, having said that, they introduced Joel Mogul in Milan. Chikara's in with a shot to get that way. So yeah, no, we've had the six now, but we've never had one more than two. So over to you, Scotty, come Milan.
COLIN HILDING: Literally, over to you, our special guest of the day. Here to give a thank you to Ben Waterworth.
BEN WATERWORTH: Actually, today he was cheering on Brie. I didn't see him cheering on Laura. That's why she choked. Thanks, Scotty.
COLIN HILDING: David Morris, I think, should have a little bit of influence in whether Laura performs or not.
BEN WATERWORTH: David Morris got a lot of airtime tonight. I appreciated that. But it's actually funny because Scotty's already back in New York. I saw Sean White was at the Super Bowl today, so they didn't waste any time of getting over there. If we ever got Scotty on the show, and we're not getting Scotty on the show, but again, I'm just going to be like, hey, cool, you want a couple of medals. So can you put Chloe on? Hi, Chloe, how are you doing? Can you put Lance on? Done. Thanks, Scotty. Thanks, Chloe. Enjoy the wedding. So Lance, how are you? That's all I would go for. So tomorrow, we have nine medals being decided. So we have only four. We're through to nine. It's Esther Day 3 tomorrow. The downhill is on, the women's downhill. Now she comes into this, I think, fifth in the world, Esther. So not too bad in the downhill. This is the one that people are like, oh, well, you know, she's done a dunt and it's now on the Super G. But never know. It's Queen Esther. She could do it. She's, again, as I said, she's talked about possibly going to do the combined as well. So she's just doing everything. Off The Podium's way tomorrow, Kalani Crane's up for the short program in the women's figure skating. Scott's back on the biathlon course in the relay. Greta obviously in the downhill. And we've got Taylor Fletcher in the large hill in the Nordic combined. Other medals being decided tomorrow that we have mentioned the bobsleigh two man. So congratulations to Germany for getting gold and silver in that tomorrow. The women's slope style and the freestyle, the Nordic combined, as I just said, snowboarding both the men's and women's big air. And we've got the men's and women's team pursuit, pursuit in the speed skating. What are you looking forward to the most tomorrow? I'm just going to jump in. I'm going to say I am looking forward to the women's downhill because I want to see my Esther again. And also I should mention Canada are up against China tomorrow and the men's in the playing round for the ice hockey. So I'm calling the women's downhill and the Nordic combined because it's the last day of Nordic combined tomorrow and that's always sad. We've got the team event. So it's the last day of snowboarding tomorrow, but still, any day Nordic combines on, it's a good day.
COLIN HILDING: It is 100% Charles Hamlin Day here in Canada. So all Charles.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, he's actually not skating tomorrow.
COLIN HILDING: Oh, is it not tomorrow? When is it?
BEN WATERWORTH: No, I thought it was tomorrow too. The 5000 metres must be on Wednesdays.
COLIN HILDING: Why do they have such a huge gap in between the semifinals and finals for that one event?
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I actually think it comes down to because generally the figure skating and the short track are held in the same venue, right? So I'm guessing tomorrow is figure skating day. So there's Kalani doing a free front. Oh, Charles has taken out Kalani Crane in the middle of the rink. There it is. But yeah, I don't know. Actually, I thought the 5000 metres of tomorrow was actually the long track. But tomorrow is the last day of snowboarding. So if you're a snowboarding fan, tomorrow is the last day you can enjoy it. This has been fun. Bit sad. This was the big Valentine's Day that we thought was going to bring possibly two medals for Australia, but didn't get any. And yeah, Laura, wow. I'm sad, Colin. I'm sad. I have to wait.
COLIN HILDING: I think that it's very appropriate after what happens leading into that with the Canadians.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, I also think it's very appropriate that of course I'm going to get my heart broken on Valentine's Day. So just saying. But come on, Paris 2024 for Ben finally getting a gold. We've got one more shot for an Off The Podium gold medal at these Olympics. One more shot down to Charles. Two more days time. No pressure. No disrespect to Taylor, to Kalani, to Scott. Like Scott, if I wake up tomorrow and I find out you've won, like Canada's won the team relay in biathlon, like bloody hell, you go you son. And if Casey Wright wins the team sprint in a couple of days in the cross country, I mean, I will eat my words. In all seriousness, Sammy Kennedy Sim, probably not going to, but she's not out of the absolute realms of a possibility in the ski cross. Like she can pull something out. So, you know, and Eric Radford, he's a good guy.
COLIN HILDING: He can skate well. He's got a lot of motivation. He's very, very excited to be in the Olympics again. You never know what he could pull off.
BEN WATERWORTH: Is he being talked about as a potential medal or?
COLIN HILDING: No, not really. But people are just excited to see him there.
BEN WATERWORTH: Off The Podium we do. Oh, breaking news in the ski jumping. The gold has gone to Austria. The silver has gone to Slovenia. And the bronze has gone to Germany. Camille Stock, sixth place. Oh, dad, we put it on him. You go back to Poland. You probably will. I mean, the Olympics are over for him. Also, breaking news in the curling. Canada four, Scotland one. So Canada are starting to get some traction in the women's, Colin. How are you feeling about that?
COLIN HILDING: I'm feeling very good about it. Still a shot. There's still a chance.
BEN WATERWORTH: There's still a chance. And in the ice hockey, USA, nothing, Finland, nothing. So we will have those results tomorrow. Colin, thank you for joining us. Always a pleasure. And bring on bring on Esther tomorrow, day three.
COLIN HILDING: Yes, and thank you for not winning in the aerials, because I would have been very upset.
BEN WATERWORTH: Because of I get the first gold, or because you're salty over the Canadian?
COLIN HILDING: Because I knew by you doing the interview that there would be justice for Canada.
BEN WATERWORTH: Do you think from now on when we actually contact guests to come on the show, we should need to put a disclaimer? You will not do well at the Olympics if you come on this show.
COLIN HILDING: I don't. I think you have to put a disclaimer.
BEN WATERWORTH: Well, yeah. But the ones that we got coming up from these Olympics, they're probably not medal chances even in Milan. So having said that, Abby and Ali, we didn't think we were going to win medals, and look at them. They're our Off The Podium fairy tale story right now. So the only one, really. So anyway, we'll be back tomorrow. Meantime, remember to do all the social media goodness, like us, follow us, all that sort of stuff on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. Still out for a sports podcast award. We haven't been disqualified from that for some reason. We're still leading as well. Less than a month ago. I think it's only about two weeks to go, Colin, and we're still leading. Are we going to get to the final day and not win? Like is this the Off The Podium curse has got to hit us? We're the Brittany Cox of the lead up to the Pyeongchang Olympic. Guaranteed, we're not going to lose. Come that day, we're going to lose?
COLIN HILDING: I mean, NBC and BBC, I don't know how much they're plugging this. I'm not seeing, like, keep the flame alive, plugging it as much as we are. But if there's like a last minute surge where these other more respectable podcasts start plugging away, trying to get votes, then we're screwed.
BEN WATERWORTH: That's what I'm worried about, is that like they're all, well, they keep the flame alive or over in fucking Beijing right now. So, I mean, like, they're busy. Like, I mean, they've got other, they've got real shit to do. Yeah. So this is what I'm worried, like, NBC, like, they're kind of busy putting on an Olympics right now. So, like, I mean, kind of like a week before, they're just going to all of a sudden blank it. Like, there probably was a Super Bowl ad for it today. I don't know. They've got the money. But yeah, like, people vote for us still keep us in the lead here. This is nerve wracking that we've been, I think there was only one day I went on there where we were second. And now we're still leading. So, like, we basically lead for every day of this damn competition, except the one. And if we, if somebody else does a Bradbury over us, like, this is our time, all right? We can't get any of our guests on the podium. Get us on the podium.
COLIN HILDING: This is Ben's consolation for never being able to interview an actual gold medallist.
BEN WATERWORTH: I'm literally going to be like, get on that day. If we win, I'm going to be like, in your face all our guests that suck. We can win. No, I would never say that. I probably would. But anyway, go for a sportspodcastrewards.com. I will dedicate it to all the Olympians that we have caused a choke at the Olympics. Like, literally. I will dedicate it to every single one of you. Except for Abby and Ali, because they are awesome. All of our guests are awesome. You went to the Olympics. I'm just some loser in a hotel room right now, complaining that I'm going to win some podcast awards.
COLIN HILDING: Even Nick Timmings is awesome.
BEN WATERWORTH: Nick Timmings is awesome. Seriously, I could not even last five seconds on skis. I could barely curl a week ago, and I got COVID the next minute. Like, put me on a skeleton. I wouldn't even go near a real skeleton, let alone one that goes down a shoot of ice. So, like, Nick Timmings is amazing. 25th best skeleton racer in the world. He can hit the wall 50 times, and he's still better than I am. Like, come on.
COLIN HILDING: Well, you won't know until you try it.
BEN WATERWORTH: No, I would never try that. I would be a wimp. I wouldn't even walk down that track. Like, I barely play on the PlayStation. Come on. Um, back tomorrow, special shout out to Jason Momoa and to Nick Timmings. What a man. And until we next speak, my name is Ben, this is Off The Podium, and remember, go left.
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